Feinstein's New Gun-Ban Bill Likely to be Introduced January 22

Posted on January 4, 2013


Contact your members of Congress and urge them to oppose any "assault weapon" or magazine ban

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)--author of the federal "assault weapon" and "large" ammunition magazine ban of 1994-2004--has said for weeks that she will soon introduce an even more restrictive bill. Leaders in the U.S. Senate have stated that January 22 will be the first day on which new Senate legislation can be proposed, so that is the most likely date for the new, sweeping legislation to be introduced.

On Dec. 17th, Feinstein said, "I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation" and "It will be carefully focused." Indicating the depth of her research on the issue, she said on Dec. 21st that she had personally looked at pictures of guns in 1993, and again in 2012.

According to a Dec. 27th posting on Sen. Feinstein's website and a draft of the bill obtained by NRA-ILA, the new ban would, among other things, adopt new definitions of "assault weapon" that would affect a much larger variety of firearms, require current owners of such firearms to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act, and require forfeiture of the firearms upon the deaths of their current owners. Some of the changes in Feinstein's new bill are as follows:

Reduces, from two to one, the number of permitted external features on various firearms. The 1994 ban permitted various firearms to be manufactured only if they were assembled with no more than one feature listed in the law. Feinstein's new bill would prohibit the manufacture of the same firearms with even one of the features.

Adopts new lists of prohibited external features. For example, whereas the 1994 ban applied to a rifle or shotgun the "pistol grip" of which "protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon," the new bill would drastically expand the definition to include any "grip . . . or any other characteristic that can function as a grip." Also, the new bill adds "forward grip" to the list of prohibiting features for rifles, defining it as "a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip." Read literally and in conjunction with the reduction from two features to one, the new language would apply to every detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle. At a minimum, it would, for example, ban all models of the AR-15, even those developed for compliance with California's highly restrictive ban.

Carries hyperbole further than the 1994 ban. Feinstein's 1994 ban listed "grenade launcher" as one of the prohibiting features for rifles. Her 2013 bill goes even further into the ridiculous, by also listing "rocket launcher." Such devices are restricted under the National Firearms Act and, obviously, are not standard components of the firearms Feinstein wants to ban. Perhaps a subsequent Feinstein bill will add "nuclear bomb," "particle beam weapon," or something else equally far-fetched to the features list.

Expands the definition of "assault weapon" by including:

--Three very popular rifles: The M1 Carbine (introduced in 1941 and for many years sold by the federal government to individuals involved in marksmanship competition), a model of the Ruger Mini-14, and most or all models of the SKS.

--Any "semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds," except for tubular-magazine .22s.

--Any "semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches," any "semiautomatic handgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds," and any semi-automatic handgun that has a threaded barrel.

Requires owners of existing "assault weapons" to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The NFA imposes a $200 transfer tax per firearm, and requires an owner to submit photographs and fingerprints to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), to inform the BATFE of the address where the firearm will be kept, and to obtain the BATFE's permission to transport the firearm across state lines.

Prohibits the transfer of "assault weapons." Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein's new bill, "assault weapons" would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government.

Prohibits the domestic manufacture and the importation of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The 1994 ban allowed the importation of such magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect. Whereas the 1994 ban protected gun owners from errant prosecution by making the government prove when a magazine was made, the new ban includes no such protection. The new ban also requires firearm dealers to certify the date of manufacture of any >10-round magazine sold, a virtually impossible task, given that virtually no magazines are stamped with their date of manufacture.

Targets handguns in defiance of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects the right to have handguns for self-defense, in large part on the basis of the fact handguns are the type of firearm "overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose." Semi-automatic pistols, which are the most popular handguns today, are designed to use detachable magazines, and the magazines "overwhelmingly chosen" by Americans for self-defense are those that hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, Feinstein's list of nearly 1,000 firearms exempted by name (see next paragraph) contains not a single handgun. Sen. Feinstein advocated banning handguns before being elected to the Senate, though she carried a handgun for her own personal protection.

Contains a larger piece of window dressing than the 1994 ban. Whereas the 1994 ban included a list of approximately 600 rifles and shotguns exempted from the ban by name, the new bill's list is increased to nearly 1,000 rifles and shotguns. But most of the guns on the list either wouldn’t be banned in the first place, or would already be exempted by other provisions. On the other hand, the list inevitably misses every model of rifle and shotgun that wasn’t being manufactured or imported in the years covered by the reference books Sen. Feinstein’s staff consulted. That means an unknown number of absolutely conventional semi-auto rifles and shotguns, many of them out of production for decades, would be banned under the draft bill.

The Department of Justice study: On her website, Feinstein claims that a study for the DOJ found that the 1994 ban resulted in a 6.7 percent decrease in murders. To the contrary, this is what the study said: "At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders. Our best estimate is that the ban contributed to a 6.7 percent decrease in total gun murders between 1994 and 1995. . . . However, with only one year of post-ban data, we cannot rule out the possibility that this decrease reflects chance year-to-year variation rather than a true effect of the ban. Nor can we rule out effects of other features of the 1994 Crime Act or a host of state and local initiatives that took place simultaneously."

"Assault weapon" numbers and murder trends: From the imposition of Feinstein's "assault weapon" ban (Sept. 13, 1994) through the present, the number of "assault weapons" has risen dramatically. For example, the most common firearm that Feinstein considers an "assault weapon" is the AR-15 rifle, the manufacturing numbers of which can be gleaned from the BATFE's firearm manufacturer reports, available here. From 1995 through 2011, the number of AR-15s--all models of which Feinstein's new bill defines as "assault weapons"--rose by over 2.5 million. During the same period, the nation's murder rate fell 48 percent, to a 48-year low. According to the FBI, 8.5 times as many people are murdered with knives, blunt objects and bare hands, as with rifles of any type.

Traces: Feinstein makes several claims premised on firearm traces, hoping to convince people that her 1994 ban reduced the (already infrequent) use of "assault weapons" in crime. However, traces do not indicate how often any type of gun is used in crime. As the Congressional Research Service and the BATFE have explained, not all firearms that are traced have been used in crime, and not all firearms used in crime are traced. Whether a trace occurs depends on whether a law enforcement agency requests that a trace be conducted. Given that existing "assault weapons" were exempted from the 1994 ban and new "assault weapons" continued to be made while the ban was in effect, any reduction in the percentage of traces accounted for by "assault weapons" during the ban, would be attributable to law enforcement agencies losing interest in tracing the firearms, or law enforcement agencies increasing their requests for traces on other types of firearms, as urged by the BATFE for more than a decade.

Call Your U.S. Senators and Representative: As noted, Feinstein will most likely introduce her bill on January 22nd. President Obama has said that gun control will be a "central issue" of his final term in office, and he has vowed to move quickly on it. And yesterday, a story from The Blaze noted that Obama's point man on gun control--Vice President Biden--has promised that Obama will pass a gun control bill by the end of the month.

Contact your members of Congress at 202-224-3121 to urge them to oppose Sen. Feinstein's 2013 gun and magazine ban. Our elected representatives in Congress must hear from you if we are going to defeat this gun ban proposal. You can write your Representatives and Senators by using our "Write Your Representatives" tool here: http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx

Millions of Americans own so-called "assault weapons" and tens of millions own "large" magazines, for self-defense, target shooting, and hunting. For more information about the history of the "assault weapon" issue, please visit www.GunBanFacts.com.

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White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory

Benjy Sarlin January 4, 2013, 4:04 PM

The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade.

While the fiscal cliff has dominated Washington’s attention in recent weeks, lawmakers and activists are laying the groundwork for their big push. Vice President Joe Biden, tasked with heading a commission to investigate gun violence, has been quietly meeting with experts, interest groups, and public officials and is expected to release a set of recommendations within weeks. Boston mayor Thomas Menino, co-chair of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told the Boston Herald this week that an optimistic Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”

“We had been led to believe their report would come by end of January, but we’re hearing they may want to have something out by January 15, even quicker than expected,” Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told TPM.

House Democrats are moving ahead with their own plans as well. On Friday, Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA), chair of the newly created Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, announced the appointment of 12 vice chairs, including Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), the body’s leading voice on gun control. According to a Democratic aide, the group plans to release its recommendations in early February and is already organizing public hearings on the issue.

Obama has personally identified an assault weapons ban and limits on ammunition magazine size as top priorities. Other possible reforms could include background check requirements for purchases at gun shows, a loophole that’s helped create a huge market of off-record arms purchases.

Pro-gun groups have dominated Congress in recent years and, while lawmakers approved by the National Rifle Association have mostly kept their heads down in recent weeks, any legislation could face an difficult path to passage, or even a vote, especially in the Republican-led House.

Glaze said his group would work hard to build public support, hosting local events with various mayors, dozens of whom will descend on Washington later this month for The United States Conference of Mayors winter gathering.

Gun violence survivors are also planning trips to lobby lawmakers to support legislation. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords, who survived a mass shooting in 2011, could play a prominent role in that regard: on Wednesday she met with Bloomberg in New York and on Friday traveled to Newtown to comfort families who lost loved ones in the attack there.

But Glaze acknowledged the NRA has long held an advantage not only in its cash resources, but in its large and active grassroots membership, which has rallied in the past to whip members of Congress against gun control bills. For gun control advocates, they’ll have to offer a compelling case that lawmakers who squelch reforms will pay a price in the midterm elections and that means building their own active network of supporters. Glaze is confident they can do so, citing recent polls showing restrictions on extended ammunition clips and an expansion of background checks to be popular nationally.

“The broad solutions are there and if Congress doesn’t act I think they're going to be digging themselves further into a big hole,” he said.

The Brady Campaign, the gun control group founded by former Ronald Reagan press secretary Jim Brady, is also expected to play a role in promoting legislation, but it’s an open question whether they can compete with the NRA’s experienced leadership. TPM reached out to the group’s staff in recent days for information on its plans, but received no response.

White House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings

By Philip Rucker, Published: January 5

The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.

To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda.

The Biden group, formed last month after the massacre at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that killed 20 children and six adults, plans to submit a package of recommendations to President Obama this month. Once Obama’s proposals are set, he plans to lead a public-relations offensive to generate popular support.

“They are very clearly committed to looking at this issue comprehensively,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, who has been involved in the discussions. The proposals under consideration, he added, are “a deeper exploration than just the assault-weapons ban.”

The gun-control push is just one part of an ambitious political agenda that Obama has pledged to pursue after his decisive reelection victory in November, including comprehensive immigration reform, climate-change legislation and long-term deficit reduction. Obama also faces a reshuffling of his Cabinet, and a looming debate over the nation’s debt ceiling that will compete for his time and attention in the coming months.

Seeking expansive mandate

In addition to potential legislative proposals, Biden’s group has expanded its focus to include measures that would not need congressional approval and could be quickly implemented by executive action, according to interest-group leaders who have discussed options with Biden and key Cabinet secretaries. Possibilities include changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

“Simply coming up with one or two aspects of it really falls short of the magnitude of the gun issue in the country,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum.

Wexler was among a dozen law enforcement leaders who met with Biden and other administration leaders in the aftermath of the Dec. 14 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. The Dec. 20 summit, which stretched an hour beyond an allotted one hour, included Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

Biden “wanted to talk to us about the assault-weapons ban, automatic weapons, high-capacity magazines,” said Hennepin County (Minn.) Sheriff Richard Stanek, president of the Major County Sheriffs’ Association.

The vice president said the White House group would consider a variety of proposals — from requiring background checks for all gun buyers to creating a new database that would allow the ATF to track all gun sales, according to participants.

Stanek said the meeting also included significant discussion of mental-health issues, violence in video games and movies, and the poor quality of information contained in databases used to conduct criminal background checks before issuing gun permits.

Some of the options the administration is considering may not ultimately be included in Obama’s package. A White House spokesman said Biden’s group was in the midst of its review and has made no decisions on its final recommendations.

The White House is also developing strategies to navigate the rocky and emotionally fraught terrain of gun politics once final policy decisions are made. The administration is quietly talking with a diverse array of interest groups, including religious leaders, mental-health professionals and hunters, to build as broad a coalition as possible, those involved in the discussions said.

The president is expected to face fierce opposition from the NRA and its allies in Congress, including most Republicans and some Democrats.

But Biden signaled to those involved in the policy discussions that the White House is not afraid of taking on the NRA, the nation’s largest gun rights group. At the Dec. 20 meeting, according to Stanek, when one law enforcement leader suggested focusing on only the most popular proposals, Biden responded: “Look, what I’m asking you for is your candid opinion and ideas about extreme gun violence. Leave the politics to the president. That’s our job with Congress.”

NRA officials declined a request for comment. In response to the shooting in Newtown, Wayne LaPierre, the group’s executive vice president, called for installing armed police officers in every school.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” LaPierre said at a news conference Dec. 21.

One potential strategy would be to win support for specific measures from interest groups that are normally aligned with the NRA, according to one person who works closely with the administration on gun-related issues and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity.

For instance, this person suggested, Wal-Mart and other major gun retailers may have an incentive to support closing a loophole that allows people to bypass background checks if they purchase firearms at gun shows or through other types of private sales. That could result in more people buying guns in retail stores.

Timing is imperative

Obama’s advisers have calculated that the longer they wait, the more distance there is from the Newtown massacre and the greater the risk that the bipartisan political will to tackle gun violence will dissipate.

“This is not something that I will be putting off,” Obama said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview broadcast last Sunday.

At the White House meeting, Stanek said, “the vice president indicated that there was a very short timeline for him to get back to the president with his recommendations because the American public has a short memory.”

Already, three weeks after the Newtown shooting, gun-control advocates are growing impatient with a legislative process that is just beginning.

“As we get involved in these ad nauseam debates over the Second Amendment, our children are still at risk,” said Jon Adler, national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association. “Debating is not the action verb we need to protect our children.”

With the start of the 113th Congress last week, several lawmakers filed bills to address gun violence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who co-wrote a 1994 assault-weapons ban that expired in 2004, plans to introduce legislation this month that would ban the sale or manufacture of about 120 firearms, including semiautomatic rifles and military-style handguns, as well as ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds.

The expired federal assault-weapons ban prohibited the manufacturing of 19 models of semiautomatic guns classified as assault weapons, including certain rifles and shot guns. The law also banned ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. But it did not ban the sale of previously manufactured assault weapons or high-capacity magazines.

Since the law’s sunset, efforts in Congress over the past decade to reinstate the ban have faced stiff opposition from the NRA and the firearms industry and have never passed.

Adler, who has submitted recommendations to Biden’s group, said he has told administration officials that they need to pursue multiple measures to increase their chances of success.

“We can’t put all our protection-effort eggs in one basket with one piece of legislation,” he said. “We’ve got to do more than that.”

© The Washington Post Company

Frankenbitch has been "working on this over a year" the government killed those kids.
The people have a short memory, another "tragic event" coming right up.
Executive order who cares if congress passes it Barry will sign it.

Keep your powder dry. Shits about to hit the fan.

So I am a little confused...

Diane Feinstein, who is constantly surrounded by security people, provided with taxpayer money, all of whom are carrying assault weapons; Diane Feinstein, who has a concealed carry permit;
Diane Feinstein who along with her husband was speculating shipping containers full of AK and SKS rifles back in the 80s...


Diane Feinstein certainly likes having her own hired guns, and she wants to be fully armed and secure at all times, but she wants me disarmed and constantly vulnerable?

It is time to ban Diane Feinstein, and every other senate-whore who votes along with her.

And POTUS? How many hired guns does he have? His security budget must be in the mega-FRNs per week.

Give up YOUR guns Barry, and then we'll talk!

What you gonna talk about? This has gone to far already and you cant get the shite back into the horse.

This had to come and we all knew it. Now or later, lets just get this thing over with.

You think POTUS and CONgress will voluntarily give up their heavily armed security contingents?

With their own words they have sealed the fate of our nation.

The peaceful days are about to end...

Like I said, lets get it over with.

i,m chompin at the bit too!!!.

Biden threatens ‘executive action’ before meeting with gun groups

Vice President Joe Biden set off alarms across the firearms community with a remark Wednesday that President Barack Obama “is going to act” and that he is looking at issuing “executive orders” or taking “executive action” on guns.

It was such a volatile remark that the Drudge Report ran the headline under images of Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin. It also made headlines on The Gun Wire.

This news comes as Biden is preparing to meet Thursday with representatives from the National Rifle Association on Thursday. Examiner has confirmed that NRA officials were in meetings Wednesday about the upcoming talks, at which NRA will reportedly be represented by James Jay Baker, former head of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action.

The NRA Board of Directors is coincidentally meeting this week, and the current onslaught of proposed legislation is definitely on their agenda. They are likely talking about not only the president’s revelation over the weekend that he will push for a sweeping ban on so-called “assault weapons,” along with anti-gun Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s plan to ban rifles, shotguns and even handguns that have a single “military characteristic” and force current owners to register their firearms under the 1934 Federal Firearms Act, same as machine guns.

At the same time, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has announced he will seek “sweeping” anti-gun legislation, and Iowa State Rep. Dan Muhlbauer, a Democrat, reportedly told the Daily Times Herald in Caroll that the government should start confiscating semi-automatic rifles. Here is what the newspaper reported:

"Even if you have them, I think we need to start taking them," Muhlbauer said. "We can't have those out there. Because if they're out there they're just going to get circulated around to the wrong people. Those guns should not be in the public's hands. There are just too many guns."

If such a ban were implemented, Muhlbauer suggested a voluntary buy-back plan. But he would go further if needed.

"If we find them on the street, there's going to have to be some sort of penalty for them," Muhlbauer said. "We just don't need "em out there."

The massive anti-gun offensive was ignited in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary tragedy in Connecticut last month.

Meanwhile, Pacific Northwest gun rights activists are already planning a Jan. 19 rally in Olympia, coinciding with Gun Appreciation Day and a Washington Arms Collectors’ gun show in Puyallup. They are also mulling over the proper response to Tuesday’s announcement by anti-gun Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn and King County Executive Dow Constantine about a gun “buyback” effort that will launch with transactions under I-5 between Cherry and James streets. This column discussed that here and here.

Biden’s revelation that the White House is considering “executive action” even before meeting with the NRA and other gun and hunting interests sends a signal that whatever happens at the Thursday session, the administration will not be acting “in good faith.” It appears Mr. Obama and his vice president already have their minds made up.

It is reminiscent of 1994 when the Clinton administration had the momentum of a Democrat-controlled Congress to pass the first ban on semi-autos and standard capacity magazines. It appears Obama wants to pass restrictions this year, perhaps in hopes that by November 2014, the public will forget and not do to him what they did 20 years before, by turning Congress over to Republicans and giving him two years of being a very lame duck.

Missteps and setbacks impacting gun ban momentum as gun owners start to advance

In spite of Vice President Joe Biden’s threat in this morning’s gun grab task force meeting that “executive actions” are on the way, the legitimacy and survivability of such a move is by no means assured, as the gun ban juggernaut, reanimated following Sandy Hook, has encountered some unforeseen bumps in the road that have the potential of halting it in its tracks with no place to go that isn’t blocked. Gun owners, horrified and then outraged by a full court press from the government, the “Authorized Journalist” media and citizen disarmament advocacy groups, are beginning to push back in a coordinated effort, and are sensing that their enemies, over-confident and unrestrained, have let their reach exceed reality, and revealed an end game that’s beyond their grasp.

Fear and bewilderment at being scapegoated and punished for monstrous crimes enabled by the very people now demanding even more suicidal disarmament edicts is being replaced with anger and resolve, and there’s a sense that the sound and fury is just that, and contrary to the Borg ultimatum, resistance is definitely not futile, and not only that, but that it’s time to go on the offensive and kick some hindquarters.

A national grassroots coalition has put Congress on notice that its combined nationwide memberships will oppose “any attempt to pass gun control including, but not limited to, banning semi-automatic firearms or magazines, or requiring private gun transfers to be registered through the National Instant Check System; and repealing the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1996.”

Once more at the forefront of digging out news the mainstream press with all its horses and men seem oblivious to, as they instead traipse about dispensing administration talking point memes, citizen journalist Mike Vanderboegh of Sipsey Street Irregulars has revealed in a supreme bit of irony that “Thomas Nee, key member of Joe Biden's ‘gun violence commission,’ has a son who was convicted of plotting a Columbine-style mass murder at a school -- possibly with a service weapon obtained from his father.”

In a way, that kind of answers the "What do you need an assault weapon for?" question.

Wal-Mart, being pressured by a divide-and conquer strategy employed to give incentives to some to stay out of the fight (that’s the reason Dianne Feinstein has made it a point to emphasize that “sporting arms” are exempted from her bill, hoping the Fudds will be too damn dumb and selfish to realize that their “sniper rifles” and “destructive devices” will be next after this beachhead is secured, and the best they can hope for is the Polyphemus promise to be eaten last), has announced it can’t attend Biden’s “stakeholders” group grope on Thursday, and while one could hope that they’d come up with a better excuse than the one Hillary used to stonewall on Benghazi, we’ll take it. [And to show you how quickly things developed, the retail giant just buckled in the time it took to write this draft, and their headache suddenly got better.]

The National Rifle Association will attend. Noting nothing has been said about other more hard-line groups, and nothing appears yet on the Vice President’s public schedule, this correspondent called Biden’s press office yesterday and asked for a list of all who would be attending. At this writing, no list is available, but in a follow-up call this morning, the media representative told me it would be sent out today, and this column will present it when (if) it is received. Additionally, CNN is now reporting the National Shooting Sports Foundation, representing the gun industry, will also be there.

In a related and ingenious development, Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch has written the White House claiming Biden’s task force, as presently being conducted, violates “the Federal Advisory Committee Act which applies to ‘any committee, board, commission, council, conference, panel, task force, or other similar group’ that dispenses ‘advice or recommendations’ to the president of the United States.

“Pursuant to FACA, a task force must publish within the Federal Registry notice of any meeting 15 days prior to that meeting, and the meetings must be made open to the public,” Klayman maintains in his letter. “The first meeting of this task force was held a single day after its creation, without the required notice requirements having been met.”

Klayman has a great point, and as Obama has made it clear he is soliciting inputs from “stakeholders,” we who are the ultimate beneficiaries or goats deserve to know exactly who is planning to do what to us, to see what “end game” goals are enumerated by the antis, and what pill, if any, those on the “pro-gun” side think we need to swallow (but aren’t ready to publicly prescribe) to break the fever.

Assuming Klayman’s thrown flag won’t stop tomorrow’s meeting from happening, there have been concerns expressed that a compromise of some sort might be in the works, particularly if only NRA and industry representatives attend the “stakeholder” meeting, and especially if no record of the proceedings, negotiations and potential concessions is kept. That Congress, and not just ostensibly “pro-gun” representatives, but the soft, squishy middle, will be too spooked to just oppose all “gun control” proposals and feel compelled to offer up something, lest they suffer the wrath of manipulated constituencies, has been a subject of concern among some gun rights leaders, resulting in speculation that either an expansion of mental health disabilities or caving on private sales might be offered up to take the heat off the hardware.

That, of course, would be foolish and divisive, and any “leader” proposing such an intolerable compromise would correctly be perceived as a sell-out by a growing army of gun owner activists who are quickly replacing their natural initial fears with a readiness to fight. They have shown little tolerance thus far for industry members who have abandoned them in this time of need and withdrawn from the field due to posturing before the real battle has even started, and words like “Quisling” are freely and contemptuously thrown about in gun activist forums, along with commitments to boycott those perceived as turncoats, or simply as save-their-own-skin cowards.

Fortunately, for those who feel the need to offer Congress “something” to put forward, there is a bill that gun owners can unify behind that will further halt (and has the potential to reverse) the momentum, something politicians who don’t live in hive insect colony districts can take back to their constituents that makes sense and resonates with the sane. It can take the wind out of the prohibitionists’ sails and make them, instead of us play defense.

“Congressman Steve Stockman has introduced H.R. 35, the Safe Schools Act of 2013 -- a bill to allow principals, teachers, and staff to possess firearms in order to defend their students,” Gun Owners of America announced yesterday in a membership alert.

“Within a couple of years of the reenactment of the Gun Free School Zones Act [in which ‘task force leader’ Biden has claimed bragging rights – DC], the Columbine tragedy occurred. And the series of copycat school massacres has shocked and saddened our country ever since,” the GOA alert explains. “Clearly, the gun ban is not working. And it’s past time to try a new approach.

“It’s time to go on the offensive!” GOA asserts. “It’s time to repeal gun control, rather than talk about ‘enforcing the gun laws on the books. We don’t want to enforce gun control laws -- that’s what makes innocent people, including children sitting in their classrooms, less safe.”

Stockman’s legislation, currently referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary, is now posted on the Library of Congress THOMAS legislative database, and has one co-sponsor at its introduction, Rep. Paul C. Broun of Georgia. (Go to the THOMAS link and select Stockman from the drop-down “Browse Bills by Sponsor” menu and select the “H.R. 35” link for all information, including the text of the bill.)

GOA is absolutely right to support this, and provides a “Take Action” contact form, where gun owner activists can petition their representatives with the expectation that they will co-sponsor and support the effort, and the importance of doing that cannot be over-emphasized. Gun owners should have contacted theirs already, and be continually demanding no new gun control [If not now, in the midst of the most ferocious assault in recent memory, when, and if not you, who?] and colleague and gun rights organizer Russ Howard has provided a no-nonsense message that will put gun owners truly on the offensive, that we can use to not only stop the gun-grabber momentum but to break the ranks of the collective supremacists and force them to retreat.

“That's right,” take the offensive!” Howard encourages, noting “the gun control hysteria is losing steam.

“You wished for [legislation] and you're going to get it,” he challenges the anti-gunners. “We're sick of being scapegoated for massacres you made possible. They're your fault, and we're not going to be here three or six months from now taking the blame for you again.

“We won't stand for scapegoating, and we won't stand for more defenseless massacres,” Howard pushes back in defiance. “We're going to roll back 'gun free' victim zones, federally, state by state, district by district.”

Take that message and share it with your representatives right now. If you don’t know yours, shame on you, but start making amends by contacting your Congressman and your Senators (and don’t forget your state representatives). If yours are confirmed and secure anti-gunners who can’t be persuaded, there’s nothing that says you can’t contact middle-of-the roaders somewhere else, even in another state. Sample text, which could be included in a contact form or email, printed on a post card, or relayed via fax or telephone call, could be something simple and unequivocal along the lines of:

WE WON’T STAND FOR SCAPEGOATING

NO NEW GUN LAWS

DENY SUCCESS TO MASS MURDERERS BY ABOLISHING PHONY ‘GUN-FREE’ VICTIM / KILLER ENABLING ZONES NOW

WORK WITH US OR WE WILL WORK TO RETIRE YOU

It also wouldn’t hurt to remind your representatives that they control the purse strings, and if the administration is seriously contemplating “executive actions” like banning imports that don’t meet “sporting purpose” requirements (and “never forget” where that term originated), you’ll expect some creative funding retaliation on their part.

And while you’re at it, it wouldn’t hurt to contact NRA and NSSF, and let them know this is the message you expect and demand for them to convey on Thursday.

It’s time to show the control über alles freaks, which is what monopoly of violence zealots are, that in their unrestrained public salivation and blood-dancing frenzy they’ve reached too far and revealed too much, that we’re not afraid of them, and that we will beat them, because we can. That’s a certainty if we all not only hold fast, but show the courage to trust in our strength and advance.

Now is the time for confidence. Let the doubts and discouragement be theirs.

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More Intolerable Acts

HR 138 Magazine Ban: Go to Thomas and enter HR 138.

H.R.142 Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013: Go to Thomas and enter HR 142.

H.R.141 Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2013: Go to Thomas and enter HR 141.

The NRA is going to role over and "negotiate the ban down" to something similar to the Clinton ban.

Sorry for the late reply; its hard to type while loading mags.

MILLER: National ‘assault weapon’ ban coming Thursday


By Emily Miller - The Washington Times

January 22, 2013, 04:51PM


Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s office confirmed that she will be introducing in the Senate Thursday a new version of the so-called assault weapon ban. A spokesman said the full text will be released at a press conference on Thursday.

The California Democrat intends to expand on the ban that expired in 2004, by including handguns and shotguns, in addition to rifles. She would decrease from two to one the number of cosmetic features on a gun to have it be considered an “assault weapon.” This means that if a gun has just one item like a pistol grip or bayonet lug, then it is illegal. Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed into law the same ban in New York last week.

Furthermore, instead of grandfathering in current firearms, she would create a national gun registry for the government to track lawful gun owners. Magazines would again be limited to 10 rounds.

The Clinton-era bill was not renewed by Congress after the Federal Bureau of Investigation and law enforcement agencies reported that it was ineffective in reducing crime.

President Obama said that a top priority is to get “an assault weapons ban that is meaningful” passed this year.

A summary of Mrs. Feinstein’s legislation is below.

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: 120 specifically-named firearms; certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by: Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test; eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by: Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment; exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include: Background check of owner and any transferee; type and serial number of the firearm; positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint; certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

Emily Miller is senior editor of the opinion pages for The Washington Times. Her "Emily Gets Her Gun" series on the District's gun laws won the 2012 Clark Mollenhoff Award for Investigative Reporting from the Institute on Political Journalism.

Dam looks like they ain't draging there ass no more on certain issues.
Thanks for posting this.

We would be looking at an enforcement date in May, worst case scenario. Keep an eye open for investigative efforts being put in ahead of time, since I would expect a rash of arrests as soon as the ink is dry on the paperwork.

We are not just talking rush to buy what you want to buy, but a rush to sell off what you want to sell off because the music stops when the ban hits. Or should I say, the soft elevator music stops. Things will get real interesting when the Heavy Metal bands warm up...

Brother things sure will get interesting, very very interesting.

One thing I believe is certain, we will then find out what the people will do and how many will actually take direct action using force of arms.

What will come will be either the beginning of the End of our Republic or the Beginning of the Restoration of our Republic or maybe the Beginning of the total break up of what used to be the United States of America. I just hope and pray it is the second option, Restoration.

I've been thinking if the worst does come will I fight or move to a state which will defy the Feds access to it's people. but in the end it would only be a matter of time for that state to fall into tyranny.

man I hate packing! man it's a tough decision. I really hate packing!

I have a feeling a bunch of the people on the "restoration" program will be calling the early birds like us the bad guys, one reason I am sitting out to see what players emerge.

I like the idea of having the resources of an entire state on resistance, but a lot of those states have very little in the way of resources. Some "isolated" parts of Northern California are more of a state than the entire state of Wyoming.

NorCal/Southern Oregon "State of Jefferson" has usable ports, good land, decent trade routes and fairly steady weather. What I don't have are any good landing pad enclave contacts there which are recent. Some growers from over ten years ago, nobody recent.

Both Washington and Oregon are really different states when you go east of the second row of north/south mountain ranges, but that gets into shitty land too. Bad for economic sustainability, and easy for the feds to turn into a bombing range except that there are some areas where people could make a stand and fight in terrain where the high tech big military loses a lot of advantages. We would also be gambling that the central government is unwilling to bring heavy ordinance to bear for fear of military loyalty issues, and any holdout force is only going to be fighting an "elite" that was mainly recruited in the Spetsnaz pattern of "political reliability" then trained to high levels, not high end pros who are fighting for what they believe in.

Waste a few of those arrogant dickheads and then see whether or not the remainder thinks the $15K per month is worth it if they may not live to spend it, and can't operate with the regular military for fear of getting fragged. That's what can get the heavy weapons out of the picture and give early rebel forces a fighting chance.

That's the rub though, we just don't know how a hand picked elite of highly paid "politically reliable" shock troops who are accustomed to winning every battle on home turf will react to taking casualties in the kinds of volume common to actual military conflict. We are talking about people who win 97% of the time by threatening or initiating armed conflict, but usually having such a high level of maneuver and initiative advantage that they win without firing a shot, and rarely get shots fired at them by actual capable opponents.

There is next to zero active resistance at this point so neither side really knows how the other will roll, except that when pro gun people are killed or taken down one by one, any substantive response has been minimal, reprisal killings virtually non existent. It is going to be a guessing game to see who has the guts to start, and then who has the guts to stay in the game once it is started, then whether or not a peace can be negotiated quickly before the scale of things grows larger than what can be settled through peace table negotiation.

Breacher

A Negotiated Peace will not solve anything, the best it could do would be to return things to the way it is now and that is not what is needed.

Once the War starts it must be fought until we win and by winning I mean until the Enemy is destroyed.

There is absolutely now way that we can sustain a conclusive "win" by attrition or any other means under the current or foreseeable circumstances.

The only attainable goal I can see is going to be either a host of demands for legal issues that would get met if they are realistic enough, or recognition of much higher levels of sovereignty in some particular regions, states or autonomous zones.

People are not even agreeing on who "the enemy" is, so lining any demographic group up and shooting them because of the way they voted will not be sustainable. Executing any particular identified group of leaders works only so far, until you work out demands and terms with whoever replaces them.

Something will emerge from the chaos, and if whatever it is that emerges is to have any resemblance of a free society, then combat actions will most likely need to have been kept contained to some degree, and negotiations entered into fairly quickly, not saying settled quickly, but without dialogue, there can be no peace agreement. With no peace agreement, there is no stabilization of a post-revolutionary government, and no reconstruction.

Personally, my inclination is still to sit this one out for a while in order to see how the various factions side off on things.

Some wording that I keep seeing getting changed is " A fixed magazine that can hold no more than ten rounds of ammunition."

Let's STOP and think about not only this but how those sneaky S.O.B.'s are thinking about how we are going to interpret that phase.

Here is what I think they are hoping that we miss until it's too late. A "fixed magazine" (integral ) NOT a detachable magazine (removable).

Think about that.

THEY, are getting a lot of people agreeing with them that ten-rounds is plenty, but if you go on the basis of only pistols with FIXED magazines will be allowed , that means that ALL other pistols that use DETACHABLE magazines are banned by defacto !

What kind of pistols would this leave then ? Basically only a small handful , such as :

Mauser C96 ( not the variant that was modified to take detachable magazines)

Roth-Steyr M1907
Steyr-Hahn M1911
Frommer M1901
Krnka M1895, M1899, M1904
Mannlicher M1894,M1896,M1901,M1903,M1905ARG

All of these are from before 1912 A.D, over a hundred years ago ,and nobody uses these designs any more.

Then we have the modern choices :

Grendel P-10 (.380 , ten-rds, 1988-1991) (I had one years ago,junk imho.)

And that's it . One pistol that was only made for four years, about twenty-five years ago.

Yup, I agree, THEY really did put alot of thought into this new Bill; yup yup yup, alot of thought.

Feinstein declares war on Bill of Rights, calls for American citizens to be disarmed or registered


Mike Adams
Natural News
Jan 25, 2013

US Senator Dianne Feinstein introduced her highly-anticipated gun disarmament legislation yesterday, throwing her hat in the ring as an outright traitor to the United States Constitution and a dangerous tyrant who seeks to hand the federal government a firearms monopoly. The bill would criminalize nearly all semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and handguns while calling fornationwide gun registration of all existing firearms. It would also criminalize citizens buying ammo magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, even while the government can purchase ammo magazines of unlimited capacity.

This is red alert time for all Americans who seek to save this nation from falling into the hands of outright tyrants.

How does the federal government plan to enforce these new gun control laws, if passed? Using GUNS, of course! The threat of force is what’s used to gain your “compliance” with everything the government does.

As you can easily see, America is under attack from within. Its domestic enemies are now abundantly clear: All those who are actively working against the Second Amendment of the US Bill of Rights are, by definition, enemies of America and subject to arrest and prosecution. Natural News calls for a “line in the sand” defense of our natural-born rights, including the right to keep and bear arms.

Gun prohibition doomed to fail

Feinstein’s gun disarmament legislation, if passed, would launch a new era of “gun prohibition” with all the same failures, financial costs and ethical lapses as the war on drugs, or the war on alcohol during the prohibition of the 1920′s. Even though nearly everyone on the political left recognizes the total failure of marijuana prohibition and alcohol prohibition, many now suddenly believe that gun prohibition will somehow be pulled off without a hitch.

They are wrong. If this policy of Feinstein is pursued, it will drive America into a bloody civil war costing potentially millions of innocent lives. It will turn America’s streets into combat zones, pitting patriotic, freedom-loving Americans against a tyrannical, oppressive, unconstitutional government run by criminals and thugs.

Then again, that might be Feinstein’s plan all along. A civil war would be the perfect excuse to have Obama declare martial law, suspend all elections, and erect a soviet-style police state that suffocates any hope of freedom and liberty.

Gun registration is phase one of a much larger plan for total disarmament of US citizen

Gun registration is only the first step in Feinstein’s grand scheme, of course. Following in the footsteps of Adolf Hitler, another famous gun grabber from the pages of history, Feinstein’s actual plan is as follows:

Step 1) Mandate nationwide registration of all firearms, but lie to the people and tell them they can keep their guns as long as they are registered.

Step 2) Stage another mass shooting, then invoke more fake tears on television while demanding that all guns must now be turned in “for the children.” And besides, we already have the database of all gun owners, so we know where the guns are!

Step 3) The initial calls for gun control will only target semi-automatic firearms, but with each additional staged shooting, the call will go out for even more guns to be confiscated: Bolt-action rifles, pump-action shotguns, and at some point even black powder rifles.

Step 4) Once the population is entirely disarmed and unable to resist, power-hungry people like Feinstein will engage in a full roll-out of total government domination as we’ve seen time and time again throughout history. Those who resist will be shot. Those populations that are “undesirable” will be “cleansed.”

This plan is now readily apparent and obvious to anyone who has studied history. Feinstein, Obama, Schumer and others are fundamentally no different from Hitler, Stalin and Mao. They all are power-hungry tyrants who crave total control over a disarmed population. While they may speak the language of “safety” and democracy, in their hearts they feed off the quest for total power at any cost.

Why this is our absolute line in the sand

The Bill of Rights is what has made America uniquely capable of fending off tyranny and maintaining some semblance of balance between the People and the government. The Second Amendment is the one right that protects all other rights. Without it, there would be no First Amendment, no due process, no right to remain silent, and no freedom whatsoever.

Every government inherently seeks to become a tyrannical dictatorship — it is the natural expansion of power reflected in the desires of nearly all men and women. Our Founding Fathers understood this tendency for nations to slide into tyranny, and they designed a system of separation of powers as well as checks and balances to function as firewalls against runaway oppression.

The Bill of Rights is a critical firewall that prevents the federal government from crossing the line into tyranny. Each right described in the Bill of Rights is an immutable, permanent right that cannot be revoked, nullified or infringed. Any person who attempts to actively overturn one of these sacred rights is deliberately functioning as an enemy of America and a traitor to the People.

If the Second Amendment is lost, soon after you will lose all the following:

• Your right to grow food in your home garden.
• Your right to seek out holistic and alternative medicine.
• Your right to blog about non-conformist subjects.
• Your right to own private property.
• Your right to say NO to vaccines.
• Your right to have as many children as you want.
• Your right to vote in an honest election.
• Your right to express your opinion and speak your mind.
• Your right to home school your children.
• Your right to own supplies of stored food, ammo or precious metals.
• Your right to practice self defense in your own home or community.

All of these rights are now threatened by the dark cloud of evil that has descended upon this country thanks to absolutely wicked manipulators like Dianne Feinstein and Joe Biden.

If you do not take a stand for your right to bear arms, you will lose ALL your rights and freedoms in the very near future. This is a “do or die” moment for America.

Trusting government to protect you is a fatal error

Do not be fooled by the irrational emotional appeals for gun control as voiced by manipulative politicians. They do not care about the Sandy Hook children. What they care about is using the dead children to pursue their insidious agendas of concentrating power into their own hands.

An armed citizenry scares Dianne Feinstein, and it should! “When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” said Thomas Jefferson. And he’s right. He goes on to say:

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

What Dianne Feinstein and all the other gun grabbers are trying to convince you to believe is that your neighbor is a threat to your safety, but your government is your protector. History has shown the exact opposite to be true: Your neighbor is your protector. Your government is a caged beast to be restricted in scope and vigorously denied the resources to expand its reach. Because once government crosses a threshold of power, it rapidly escalates its dominion over the population, quickly usurping all power and systematically destroying any who oppose it.

This is the single most important lesson of history, and it is a lesson that most of today’s youth has never learned, and most of today’s elders have already forgotten. If we do not awaken to the truth of this lesson right now, America will fall to the ruling elite, and all those who stood for liberty will be eliminated. (Followed soon thereafter by everyone else considered a “useless eater.”)

Gun control is more about CONTROL than about GUNS

Dianne Feinstein, you see, isn’t merely trying to take away your gun… she’s trying to take away your power. A firearm is actually the power to say “No!” to government. That’s why firearms scare government so much, and it’s why they systematically stage mass shooting events in order to evoke a nationwide call for guns to be criminalized, registered and eventually confiscated.

Firearms are the great democratic equalizers of society. When guns are widely distributed across the population, they serve as a powerful deterrent to governments that intend to become tyrannies. “Any government that does not trust its citizens with firearms,” wrote Joseph P. Martino in the book Resistance to Tyranny, “is either already a tyranny, or planning to become one.”

You have to ask yourself this question, and I’m going to put it here in bold:

What is the U.S. government planning that requires it to first disarm the American people?

Disarmament, you see, is only the first step to something far larger and far more insidious.

Action items: Three things you can do RIGHT NOW to protect your liberties and the Bill of Rights

Step 1) Call your US Senator and voice your strong opposition to the Feinstein gun control bill. Call the capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121.

Step 2) Call your state representatives and strongly urge them to introduce or support the Firearms Protection Act in your state.

Step 3) Call your local county Sheriff and urge him or her to announce their opposition to unconstitutional gun grabs in your county. Search online for their phone number.

If you will do these three things, you can make a measurable impact on this issue. Remember: This isn’t about guns as much as it’s about protecting your Bill of Rights freedoms and liberties. If the Bill of Rights is gutted by politicians in Washington, there’s nothing they won’t steal from you. That’s why this is where we draw the line in the sand and say NO!

Where to get more news from the firearms industry

www.TheGunMag.com
www.AmmoLand.com
www.TheGunWire.com
www.TheOutdoorWire.com

Organizations that are fighting to defend your freedoms on this issue

Gun Owners of America
GOA.org

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
www.JPFO.org

Project Veritas
www.TheProjectVeritas.org

National Association for Gun Rights
www.NationalGunRights.org

Second Amendment Foundation
SAF.org

Firearms Coalition
www.FirearmsCoalition.org

Summary of the intolerable act

Assault Weapons Ban of 2013
Mass shootings in Newtown, Aurora, and Tucson have demonstrated all too clearly the need to
regulate military-style assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. These
weapons allow a gunman to fire a large number of rounds quickly and without having to reload.
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:


All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one
military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock;
grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.


All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least
one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to
accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or
semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.


All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity
to accept more than 10 rounds.


All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock;
pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to
accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher;
or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.


All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting
more than 10 rounds.


157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this document).

The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:


Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill's enactment;
Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
Antique weapons.

The legislation protects hunting and sporting firearms:


The bill excludes 2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by
specific make and model.

1 The legislation strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and state bans by:


Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test.
o The bill also makes the ban harder to evade by eliminating the easy-to-remove
bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test.


Banning dangerous aftermarket modifications and workarounds.
o Bump or slide fire stocks, which are modified stocks that enable semi-automatic
weapons to fire at rates similar to fully automatic machine guns.
o So-called "bullet buttons" that allow the rapid replacement of ammunition
magazines, frequently used as a workaround to prohibitions on detachable
magazines.
o Thumbhole stocks, a type of stock that was created as a workaround to avoid
prohibitions on pistol grips.


Adding a ban on the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.


Eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original federal ban to expire.

The legislation addresses the millions of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines
currently in existence by:

Requiring a background check on all sales or transfers of a grandfathered assault
weapon.
o This background check can be run through the FBI or, if a state chooses, initiated
with a state agency, as with the existing background check system.


Prohibiting the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully
possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.


Allowing states and localities to use federal Byrne JAG grant funds to conduct a
voluntary buy-back program for grandfathered assault weapons and large-capacity
ammunition feeding devices.


Imposing a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from
prohibited persons.


Requiring that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices
manufactured after the date of the bill's enactment be engraved with the serial number
and date of manufacture of the weapon
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Assault Weapon Bans Have Been Proven to Be Effective
The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban was effective at reducing crime and getting these military-style
weapons off our streets. Since the ban expired, more than 350 people have been killed and more
than 450 injured by these weapons.

A Justice Department study of the assault weapons ban found that it was responsible for a
6.7% decrease in total gun murders, holding all other factors equal.
Source: Jeffrey A. Roth & Christopher S. Koper, "Impact Evaluation of the Public
Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act of 1994," (March 1997).


The same study also found that "Assault weapons are disproportionately involved in
murders with multiple victims, multiple wounds per victim, and police officers as
victims."


The use of assault weapons in crime declined by more than two-thirds by about nine
years after 1994 Assault Weapons Ban took effect.
o Source: Christopher S. Koper, "An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault
Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003" (June
2004), University of Pennsylvania, Report to the National Institute of Justice, U.S.
Department of Justice.


The percentage of firearms seized by police in Virginia that had high-capacity
magazines dropped significantly during the ban. That figure has doubled since the
ban expired.
o Source: David S. Fallis and James V. Grimaldi, "In Virginia, high-yield clip
seizures rise," Washington Post, at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2011/01/22/AR2011012204046.html


When Maryland imposed a more stringent ban on assault pistols and high-capacity
magazines in 1994, it led to a 55% drop in assault pistols recovered by the Baltimore
Police Department.
o Source: Douglas S. Weil & Rebecca C. Knox, Letter to the Editor, The Maryland
Ban on the Sale of Assault Pistols and High-Capacity Magazines: Estimating the
Impact in Baltimore, 87 Am. J. of Public Health 2, Feb. 1997..


37% of police departments reported seeing a noticeable increase in criminals' use of
assault weapons since the 1994 federal ban expired.
o Source: Police Executive Research Forum, Guns and Crime: Breaking New
Ground by Focusing on the Local Impact (May 2010).

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List of Firearms Prohibited by Name
Rifles: All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK-74, AKM, AKS, ARM,
MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR-47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK-
47, VEPR, WASR-10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco
56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the
following: AR-10, AR-15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15-T, Barrett REC7,
Beretta AR-70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster
XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch
MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R-15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR-15, Sig Sauer SIG516
rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles;
Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter;
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL,
LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT-9;
Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1 and
HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU-16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE-57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and
Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR-48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical
Rife M-14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson
T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D,
Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1-C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5,
Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini
Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78;
Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
Pistols: All AK-47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK-47 pistol,
HCR AK-47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK-47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK-47 pistol,
Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR-15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR-15
pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR-15 pistol,
Olympic Arms AR-15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA
SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP-9 and MP-45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec
AB-10, TEC-22 Scorpion, TEC-9, and TEC-DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC
types: MAC-10, MAC-11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA
Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11, Velocity
Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following:
Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.
Shotguns: Franchi LAW-12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the
following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP-01,
IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-040 Taktika;
Streetsweeper; Striker 12.
Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.

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One of my Customers has already thrown in the towel and put his Bushmaster on consignment at a local shop. No supprize though, He's an Obama Worshiping Liberal,I have now Ended my Buisness relationship with the old coward,He's Jewish to,and he knows what happened to the Jews last time. SEMPER FI

Holder begins gun-control push

By Megan R. Wilson - 01/25/13

The Justice Department is taking the first steps toward carrying out President Obama’s executive actions on gun control.

Attorney General Eric Holder on Friday released three proposals to strengthen the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which was one of the 23 actions ordered by Obama last week to tackle gun violence.

The proposed regulations would give local law-enforcement agencies access to the gun-sale database that is maintained by the FBI. The rules would also preserve records of denied weapons sales indefinitely.

The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act already requires federal background checks for gun purchases, but not every firearm sale is covered under the law.

Currently, law enforcement agencies cannot perform a NICS check when transferring, returning or selling weapons that have been confiscated, seized or recovered. The new rules would change that, allowing officials to perform a background check on people who receive those weapons to ensure that they are permitted to own a gun.

Obama ordered the rule change in a Jan. 16 memo that called for “rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."

Holder is also proposing that the NICS hold on to records of denied weapon sales that are more than 10 years old. When the NICS was established, the Justice Department ordered that the records be moved to a storage facility after 10 years, which Holder says is no longer necessary.

"The FBI has therefore determined that for NICS’ own internal business operations, litigation and prosecution purposes, and proper administration of the system, NICS shall retain denied transaction records on site," Holder wrote in a notice to be published in Monday's Federal Register. "The retention of denied transaction information ... will enhance the efficiency and operational capability of the NICS."

The proposed rules would also give Native American tribes access to NICS. Currently, only federal, state, or local agencies can perform the checks, which leaves out “domestic dependent nations” recognized by the United States.

The Justice Department isn’t the only part of the administration that has been asked to take action in response to last month’s school shooting in Newtown, Conn. The president has also ordered the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Education and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to get involved.

One of Obama’s directives was to ensure coverage of mental health treatment in Medicaid and under the healthcare reform law. He also ordered increased training of school staff to help them recognize signs of mental illness.

The CDC, meanwhile, was directed to study the causes of gun violence. The president urged Congress to approve $10 million for the agency to examine whether there are links between shooting sprees and violent entertainment.

Comments on the Justice Department proposals are due by March 28.

Obama's gun strategy falling short in Senate

By: Reid J. Epstein
February 25, 2013 06:24 PM EST

President Barack Obama’s legislative strategy for gun control may be the reason he gets no deal at all.

Obama’s team has been working a delicate inside game to reach out to otherwise combative Senate Republicans: The White House conveys messages to Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who develops strategy with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), the gun-friendly moderate who is tasked with whipping GOP support.

(PHOTOS: Politicians speak out on gun control)

But as things often go in Washington, the last step is the hardest — and is beginning to seem impossible.

The group has reached a breaking point over how to address records of private sales receipts, even after Schumer and Manchin, along with Sens. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), reached an agreement on the broad framework for universal background checks for gun purchases – itself a fraction of the expansive package of new laws Obama called for after the Newtown massacre.

The four didn’t meet last week while the Senate was out but are expected to speak Monday night.

Coburn, the group’s ambassador to gun rights groups like the National Rifle Association, won’t accept a record-keeping requirement on the grounds that it could lead to government overreach. Schumer and Manchin, who are in regular contact with gun control groups, say any bill without a records provision would be as toothless as an honor system.

(WATCH: Dan Malloy: Feds must act on guns)

Manchin’s search for Republicans to replace Coburn — he’s had conversations with Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) has so far come up short.

The administration may have painted itself into a corner: This sticking point has the potential to sink the only gun control negotiations the White House has been actively trying to shape, on the part of the president’s legislative package that has the widest support. And though there are other potential vehicles for legislation, the White House would have to start from scratch, now more than two months after the Newtown shooting, in rallying support.

(Also on POLITICO: Senate Judiciary Committee to consider assault weapons ban)

While stressing that he remains optimistic, Schumer admitted that the situation has gotten tricky.

“Any negotiation on guns is bound to be very hard,” he said. “We’ve made significant progress, but there are still a handful of difficult issues. We are continuing to talk and remain hopeful.”

The state of affairs has gun control advocates worried that time is running out.

“Obviously we’re fighting the clock to some extent,” said Mark Glaze, the director of New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns. “Our polling shows that after a mass shooting public support attention wanes.”

Flake’s staff is reviewing the draft language, though he has not yet read it himself, said spokeswoman Genevieve Rozansky.

Two months after Obama pledged at Newtown to use “whatever power this office holds” to push gun control, the teetering talks on background checks — which polling shows has broad public support — have become the most serious effort at bipartisan legislation.

Other efforts at Obama’s gun control deals remain at square one. Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s (D-Calif.) assault weapons ban has no GOP sponsors. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Kirk introduced a gun trafficking bill but it’s yet to attract gun-friendly Republicans. There have been no real talks in the Senate about limiting the size of ammunition magazines.

And unlike comprehensive immigration reform, Obama has not threatened to send his own bill to Congress.

The White House declined to comment about the state of the Senate talks.

Still Gillibrand said she is optimistic about the trafficking and background checks proposals. The New Yorker, a vocal gun control proponent since joining the Senate, allowed she has less hope for an assault weapons ban as long as it fails to attract GOP support.

“I don’t believe anybody should have access to military style weapons, but even if we don’t get that passed, my personal view is that it’s important to have the vote,” Gillibrand said. “I think that should be part of the national debate, making sure we have a vote is highly meaningful.”

“You can win a vote on magazine size,” she added. “But I haven’t heard any Republicans that are willing to support the assault weapons ban. Only bipartisan proposals have a hope of passing.”

Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) is holding hearings Thursday on Feinstein’s assault weapons ban and has been putting pressure on the Schumer-Coburn group to finish a deal by then. Leahy on Monday released a series of bills for committee markup, including a “placeholder” version of a background checks legislation.

The crux of the divide is over whether private sellers would be required to keep receipts of gun sales, as dealers have long been required to do.

Coburn is arguing that such a requirement would be too invasive to pass the House or Senate and would be seen by pro-gun lawmakers as a “gun grab” steps away from a federal gun registry, which the NRA has also been warning against.

Coburn’s position is that the threat of a federal agent posing as a gun buyer would be enough of a deterrent to stop people from selling to felons or the mentally ill.

”There absolutely will not be record keeping on legitimate, law-abiding gun owners in this country,” Coburn said on “Fox News Sunday.” “And if they want to eliminate the benefits of actually trying to prevent the sales to people who are mentally ill and to criminals, all they have to do is create a record keeping, and that will kill this bill.”

For Schumer and the gun control groups to whom he has to sell any deal, Coburn’s position is a distortion. The federal government, they say, must be able to track guns used in crimes through sales records as it does now though dealers, even though such records would not be kept by the federal government, which existing law prohibits from centralizing records of gun purchases.

“They’ve tried to mix the dealer records with the background checks and create the bogeyman of a national registry,” said James Pasco, the executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police, saying that Coburn “blocks us on every reasonable thing.”

“To somehow suggest that that is a step toward a registry is at variance with common sense,” Pasco added.

Coburn spokesman John Hart said Pasco should “spend less time on political commentary and more time on law enforcement.”

Another advocate with close ties to the White House effort expressed frustration with the inability to create the bipartisan consensus Obama has praised in public.

“There is a sort of nativist craziness from a sort of number of people who never want any of their information about their gun ownership in the hands of the government,” the advocate said. “Those things are hard to deal with because it is essential that those records are kept somewhere.”

The NRA declined to speak in detail about the state of the Senate talks but dismissed the entire gun control effort.

“For the White House, it’s exclusively a political issue,” NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said. “What we’re trying to do is to make sure that good public policy is put in place so that people are safer, our children are safer when they go to schools and the general public is safer so we have systems in place that address the mental health problem.”

Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy, who is pushing his own gun control laws in his statehouse, said Obama has done well to delegate the mechanics of the gun talks to Vice President Joe Biden and the Senate. He predicted Congress will eventually put forward a gun control package but was skeptical that direct outreach to Republicans would be helpful.

“Listen, who does he talk to on the Republican side?” Malloy said Friday after meeting with Obama. “I think the president is fully engaged. … On the other hand, he’s got a full time job, so he goes to his No. 2 guy and says, ‘Take this one and run with it.’”

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Here's an interesting video to show why gun magazine size restrictions don't really work..We all knew this.....

http://www.infowars.com/the-high-capacity-magazine-argument-is-a-load-of-bunkum-video/

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20 Years In Jail For Selling a Gun to a Pot Smoker


New Senate bill imposes punishment for “trafficking” firearm to “prohibited person”

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
March 1, 2013

A draconian new gun control bill in the US Senate could see people who unknowingly sell guns to pot smokers be sent to jail for up to 20 years.


S. 54, or the Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act, introduced by Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy (D-VT), “would impose a 20-year prison term if you planned (“conspired”) to purchase a firearm in order to give or raffle it to a person who, unbeknownst to you, is a “prohibited person,” reports Gun Owners of America.

Under 18 U.S.C. 922(d)(3) and (g)(3), marijuana smokers are considered “prohibited persons” because it is illegal to possess a firearm if you are “an unlawful user of … any controlled substance.”

The list of “prohibited persons” would also include some 150,000 veterans because a psychiatrist appointed a fiduciary to oversee their financial affairs.

The bill would also make someone a “prohibited person” if they are barred from owning a gun under state or local law, meaning citizens of places like New York and Chicago, who have to obtain licenses to own guns, would automatically become “prohibited persons.”

“Why do anti-gun senators and representatives continue to push language which they know is fatally flawed –- just so they can say they “broke the back of the gun lobby”? asks GOA, which is encouraging its members to contact their Senators and urge them to vote against S.54.

Despite the seemingly draconian nature of the bill, the New York Times recently described Leahy’s legislation as a “modest gun safety measure.”

The Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday postponed its work on gun control legislation in order to give senators more time to generate support for the bills, including Leahy’s legislation as well as California Senator Dianne Feinstein’s controversial assault weapons ban.

Every day another infringment, The shooting will start very soon I suspect . Semper Fi

I see no other answer to the problem at this point. Wish I was wrong and perhaps I am, even though I believe I am not.

At least they didnt start this thing during the winter.

Gun talks hit a snag in Senate over universal background checks

By Alexander Bolton - 03/05/13 05:00 AM ET


The centerpiece of President Obama’s gun violence agenda is in peril amid a deadlock among Senate negotiators over how to implement and enforce a proposal requiring background checks for private gun sales.

With time running out for talks, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) remains optimistic about reaching an agreement.

But gun control proponents have grown skeptical about whether Schumer’s main Republican counterpart, Sen. Tom Coburn (Okla.), is acting in good faith.

Schumer argues — and gun control groups agree — that records must be kept to ensure background checks are conducted before private transactions. Otherwise, any expansion of background checks would be unenforceable, they assert.

But Coburn worries that such a paperwork requirement could lead to a national gun registry, which gun rights groups staunchly oppose, according to Senate sources familiar with the talks.

Obama has ratcheted up his attention on Coburn in recent days. Coburn told reporters the president called him Monday and Thursday but declined to reveal specifics of the conversations.

Schumer and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) may have to focus more on another GOP negotiator, Sen. Mark Kirk (Ill.), as the key to a deal, rather than Coburn.

Kirk is still upbeat about forging a bipartisan agreement and could reach out to other GOP colleagues to build support for the emerging legislation, an aide said Monday.

“Sen. Kirk is committed to finding a workable solution that gets a bipartisan bill,” Kirk’s spokesman Lance Trover said. “The senator believes there is a workable solution for all sides.”

Kirk and centrist Republican Sen. Susan Collins (Maine) announced Monday afternoon they had reached a deal with Democrats to give law enforcement officials greater authority to prosecute gun trafficking and straw purchasing. The legislation would stiffen penalties to up to 25 years in prison.

One important question is who would be responsible for maintaining the record of a private sale. It could be the seller, or it could be a gun shop that conducts a background check on behalf of a private seller, as is required in Colorado and Oregon at gun shows.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) plans to mark up a series of gun violence bills on Thursday after having already delayed the session one week to give Schumer and Coburn more time.

Leahy said the markup could spill into next week, giving Schumer and Coburn even more time, but the deadline is fast approaching.

If they fail to reach a deal by the end of the markup, it will be difficult to include background-check legislation in the gun violence package headed to the Senate floor.

Groups from both sides of the debate agree background checks are the lynchpin of Obama’s agenda. Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s (D-Calif.) proposal to ban some military-style guns has little chance of passing.

Schumer has called background checks the “sweet spot” of gun control legislation.

“It’s the fundamental building block of any serious gun violence prevention system,” said Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

Horwitz said Coburn’s opposition to requiring records for private background checks calls into question whether the GOP lawmaker really supports expanded checks.

“It’s such a non-issue to me, the whole thing seems like a big stall tactic,” he said. “Saying there shouldn’t be a record, to me, is not negotiating in good faith.”

Under current federal law, background checks are required only for firearms purchased from licensed dealers. Dealers must keep a paper record of a background check and transaction, a form 4473, but are not required to submit them to a federal database.

However, some gun dealers complain agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) have copied their records, sparking concerns the information may find its way into a national database. Federal law allows the ATF to audit gun dealers’ records once a year.

“[The ATF] is going to gun dealers and saying we want to copy all the information on 4473s. They have the potential to put that information into a national gun registry,” said Michael Hammond, legislative counsel for Gun Owners of America.

Because records are not kept of private transactions, it’s difficult to estimate how many of them happen each year. But gun policy experts estimate they could make up as much as 40 percent of sales. Compiling a national gun registry would be very difficult as long as they remain unrecorded.

Schumer has already agreed to exempt transfers of weapons to family members from background checks and has said he is open to a variety of record-keeping methods for private sales.

If Coburn does not relent on the final sticking point, he may have to drop out of the negotiations.

“They can’t wait forever. There aren’t that many options,” Horwitz said.

The National Rifle Association, one of Washington’s most powerful interest groups, opposes an expansion of background checks. It has declined to comment on Schumer’s effort until legislative language becomes public.

The other bills on the agenda for Thursday’s markup are the renewal of the federal assault weapons ban, the legislation cracking down on firearms trafficking and a bill to enhance safety at schools, backed by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.).