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Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157068
03/23/2014 09:24 AM
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I checked the map, and this is not far from Strat's former locale in Monroe. 3 dead so far.

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Snohomish County is encouraging residents who live in the floodplain downstream of milepost 41 to the city limits of Arlington to “find another place to stay tonight.”

Saturday’s mudslide has blocked the north fork of the Stillaguamish River near Oso, leading to concerns about flooding upstream of the landslide and flash flooding downstream, according to the National Weather Service (NWS).

A flood warning is in effect for the north fork area and a flood watch has been issued for Snohomish County. However, the NWS said “catastrophic flash flooding” is unlikely.

Hydrologists estimate the water is rising 10-12 inches per 30 minutes upstream of the landslide dam, Snohomish County said.

Even if all the water backed up behind the landslide were to rapidly drain, the river at Arlington would not come close to flood stage. The area around the slide could see flooding.

A river gauge immediately downstream of the landslide showed the river level drop from 3.1 feet to .9 feet an hour after the landslide occurred, confirming it has blocked the river.

However, during a news briefing Saturday night, Snohomish County Executive John Lovick said officials were still recommending evacuation for those below the mudslide.
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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157069
03/23/2014 10:23 AM
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Most of the Puget sound region is glacial till, soft earth prone to slides, the area historically has a 10 point earth quake every 200 years , it has been 350 years since the last 10 pointer, when it hits thousands of homes will slide into the water.

This is very good predictive info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxFS4rqBLMc


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157070
03/23/2014 10:28 AM
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Maybe it's a good thing you moved.

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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157071
03/23/2014 04:53 PM
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I'm still here in the area. Confirmed 8 dead so far. The whole area is earthquake flood volcano and idiot prone. We have to be ready to face anything, even our own ending.


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157072
03/24/2014 02:27 AM
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The whole area is earthquake flood volcano and idiot prone.
Has FEMA arrived to begin controlling of all resources and moving people into SECURE locations?
If not wait for real idiots. They usually begin to take over from local groups and to relegate locals to coffee and shovels Then they cut power to all who still have it till they can figure out who to contract the restoration with from out of town. This creates the unemployed people depending upon them for ALL food and water as they cut off what water is still running so it cane be given to the contractors to SELL to the people who had it pulled for profits.
Hope the Militia is up and running!.

Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157073
03/24/2014 12:29 PM
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108 people are missing or unaccounted for. Authorities say that figure is likely to decline dramatically. Let's hope so.

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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157074
03/24/2014 05:20 PM
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FEMA is on site..the idiots have arrived


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157075
03/25/2014 03:41 AM
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We lost some good people, Thom and Marcy were major players behind the Free county effort, did DeJure grand juryand other sovereign work, a terrible shame.

They are beginning to blame clear cut logging now.


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157076
03/25/2014 03:48 AM
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Somebody on the radio last night was talking about something called a lahar . Have you ever heard of something like that?

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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157077
03/25/2014 05:50 AM
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A Lahar is Usually a mixture of Volcanic ash and water,flows like cement.


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157078
04/05/2014 06:57 AM
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Authorities knew of the danger of mudslides, but never told the residents.

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As searchers look for the last of the missing in Oso, Washington, where a massive landslide virtually wiped out the small community, it’s becoming more obvious that authorities knew about but failed to fully heed the warnings of scientists that such a disaster was a real threat.

Not only that, they even considered – but then rejected – a suggestion that they buy out home and business owners whose properties lay just across the Stillaguamish River from a steep hill that had fallen away several times before.

The Seattle Times newspaper reported this week that Snohomish County officials analyzed the situation, finding that the costs of a buyout “would be significant, but would remove the risk to human life and structures.”

Instead, they decided to build a wall intended to stabilize the slope, leaving existing structures in place and allowing more to be built. Eight people in those newer homes are dead or missing from the landslide, including four children, the newspaper reported.

Experts studying the most recent slide – and the several that preceded it over the years, particularly one in 2001 – say this was a fatal mistake.

“[T]o my mind this was [a] foreseeable event, and as such the disaster represents a failure of hazard management,” writes Dave Petley, a professor of hazard and risk at Durham University in the United Kingdom and author of The Landslide Blog, which is hosted by the American Geophysical Union.

“The 2001 landslide left material high on the hillside that was sitting above a scar that was far too steep,” Dr. Petley writes. “The LIDAR [Light Detecting and Ranging] data suggests that the runout from such a collapse could be extensive. In that context I find the decision to build new houses at the foot of the landslide to be very surprising.”

In retrospect, some residents in the area are surprised as well … some of them furious that they weren’t warned of the threat.

Davis Hargrave, a retired architect who lost dozens of neighbors and his weekend home, said knowing the county took the threat as seriously as it did would have prompted him to ask many more questions.

“We are not a bunch of stupid people ignoring warnings,” Mr. Hargrave told the Seattle newspaper. “We all make risk assessments every day of our lives. But you cannot make a risk assessment on information you do not have.” (...)
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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157079
04/05/2014 09:15 AM
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Wow, talk about divine providence. If Strat's old property and those shitty neighbors got wiped out with all of the stuff he was forced to abandon, I would call it what I call a Fist of GOD incident.

All those land officials who spent all that effort against Strat and his range. Karma is a bitch.


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157080
04/05/2014 09:58 AM
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Did Strat's old place get hit?


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157081
04/05/2014 10:51 AM
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Don't know yet, but probably not directly. The debris has not fully settled in yet though. Either way, the same local authorities who screwed Strat are the ones who will be taking the hit on this thing when it comes to public accountability for damages.


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Re: Landslide leads to flood concerns around Stillaguamish River #157082
04/07/2014 09:50 AM
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The death toll has risen to 33, of whom 30 have been identified. I suspect there's a lot of lawyers just chomping at the bit for a piece of the lawsuit.

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