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Marines Preparing to Evacuate Embassy in Kabul #176369
08/12/2021 03:55 PM
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Looks like we're partying like it's 1975. If the Vietnamese or the Afghans won't fight for themselves, we have no business doing the fighting for them. Still, it's sad.

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The Pentagon is preparing for a possible evacuation of the U.S. embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan amid fears that the Taliban may overrun the compound in the coming days, the New York Times reported Thursday.

As the militant organization makes significant gains, capturing ten provincial capitals across the country, the State Department is expected to reduce embassy staff and is considering relocating its outpost to the Kabul airport, a number of sources told CNN. Meanwhile, the Pentagon is moving marines into position to cover the evacuation of staff as intelligence reports suggest the Taliban may launch an assault within 30 days, the Times reported.

The Western diplomatic source told CNN that temporarily moving the U.S. embassy to Hamid Karzai International Airport is “the most probable” course of action. A small staff will reportedly remain at the Kabul embassy while the rest are shifted away from the city center.

In addition, the U.S. military is reportedly trying to evacuate ‘thousands’ of American citizens and Afghan interpreters from the capital. Military transport planes are expected to arrive at the airport to accommodate those fleeing. The embassy sent an emergency notice Thursday urging Americans to “leave Afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options,” the Times reported....


Deja vu, anyone?

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Re: Marines Preparing to Evacuate Embassy in Kabul [Re: airforce] #176375
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The Taliban could win the war with our own gear. They've already captured hundreds of Humvees, MRAPs, and drones. Put another way, our tax dollars are going to help the Taliban.

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On Friday, the Taliban seized control of Firoz Koh, the provincial capital of Ghor, Afghanistan, marking at least 17 Afghan provincial capitals the Taliban have seized in the span of a week. Videos and photos have surfaced on social media showing the Taliban taking over swaths of U.S.-donated military equipment that the Taliban is using to continue overtaking Afghanistan.

Taliban forces have reportedly captured around 100 U.S.-made Humvees and MaxxPro Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAPs) as well as U.S. ScanEagle drones left behind and the Kunduz Airport.

The Taliban captured Kunduz Airport on Wednesday and on Thursday, German journalist Julian Röpcke tweeted, “The #Taliban not only seized appr. a hundred US humvees and (MaxxPro) MRAPs at Kunduz airport, but also several US ScanEagle drones. Billions of US tax payer $ going to Islamist extremists, thanks to the administration’s hasty withdrawal without a peace deal or follow up mission.

On Friday, CNN reported that Firoz Koh fell into Taliban control, marking at least the 17th Afghan provincial capital taken by the Taliban in the span of a week.

Al Jazeera separately reported the Taliban control 18 of the 34 Afghan provincial capitals, including Sar-e-Pul, Sheberghan, Aybak, Kunduz, Taluqan, Pul-e-Khumri, Farah, Zaranj, Faizabad, Ghazni, Herat, Kandahar, Lashkar Gah, Feruz Koh, Qala-e Naw, Pul-e-Alam, Terenkot and Qalat.

Reuters shared footage from Kandahar, including a clip of dozens of Afghan civilians standing on top of a captured Humvee.



EHA News tweeted additional pictures of abandoned U.S. equipment that has fallen into Taliban hands in recent days.

Taliban has captured a massive stash of US-made weapons and drones as they tear towards #Kabul. The insurgents have added American howitzers and a helicopter to their inventory,” EHA News tweeted.

It is unclear how operable the cannon and helicopter EHA News reported are. The helicopter is missing its rotor and its right landing skid.

On Thursday, another Twitter user shared video of convoys of military vehicles bearing the flag of the Afghan government driving out of a crowded city center. They tweeted, “In #Kandahar, #troops are fleeing the city in tanks, and the Taliban are pursuing them.”

On Friday, another Twitter user shared video purporting to show an Afghan National Army Camp surrounded by Taliban fighters. They tweeted, “Badgias afghan army camp called liwa surrounding by taliban and waiting for surrender of afghan army #Kandahar.”

On Thursday, amid the rapid Taliban territorial gains, the Department of Defense announced it would send three U.S. infantry divisions to help evacuate personnel from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. The three infantry divisions, including two U.S. Marine divisions and a U.S. Army division, represent a total force of about 3,000 troops.


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History repeats it's self again.

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I knew South Vietnam would fall the minute I heard Nixon was pulling us out. It was a pretty expensive lessor to learn - and, sadly, we failed to learn it.

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One of these photos is from April 1975.

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Can you tell which one?

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Re: Marines Preparing to Evacuate Embassy in Kabul [Re: airforce] #176382
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“Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has left the country ... amid a peaceful transfer of power”
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-08-...-to-resign-report-12KKzbdWx8I/index.html

“The US ambassador and embassy staff were seen fleeing Afghanistan Sunday after Taliban forces stormed Kabul ... The ambassador and the embassy flag were seen at an airport ... shots were fired at the airport ... a US Air Force helicopter was seen taking off from the US embassy earlier today. The Chinook helicopter was seen taking to the skies above the city - just like in 1975”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...mbassy-flag-Americans-shelter-place.html

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One of these photos is from April 1975.

Fascinating. History repeats itself, as it often does:
https://youtu.be/mcQoQDkhbYw


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“July 28 (Xinhua) -- Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Wednesday met here with Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, political chief of Afghanistan's Taliban”
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-07/28/c_1310092289.htm

“Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, a battle-hardened veteran of Afghanistan's war with the Soviet Union, has been tipped to become president of a Taliban led Afghan government”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...t-joe-biden-baradar-jihad-terror-attacks

“Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar ... co-founder of the Taliban ... was captured in Pakistan by a team of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officers in February 2010 and was released on 24 October 2018 at the request of the United States.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Ghani_Baradar


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I don't know what the Chinese think they're going to do in Afghanistan, they seem to have more than enough problems already. And they're enslavement of the Uyghurs might not play all that well with the Taliban.

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I don't know what the Chinese think they're going to do in Afghanistan, they seem to have more than enough problems already. And they're enslavement of the Uyghurs might not play all that well with the Taliban.

“A recent study pegged natural resources in the country as worth at least $3 trillion ... Afghanistan possesses rare minerals crucial for industrial manufacturing, including copper, gold, uranium and fossil fuels ... lithium deposits ... Elsewhere, China has taken the lead in exploring its neighboring country’s natural resources. In February, CNBC reported that China’s Metallurgical Group Corporation (MCC) is planning to extract $100 billion worth of copper from Afghanistan. Back in 2007, the company leased land near Kabul for $3 billion. At one point, the Taliban had given the project a green light ... world’s second-largest copper deposit”
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/18/tru...ock-3-trillion-in-natural-resources.html

Also, Beijing seeks to oppose Washington at every practical opportunity, to hasten the collapse of the American Empire and its world order, to make way for China’s rise.

Regarding the Taliban’s thoughts about the Uyghurs, what happened today is unlikely to have occurred without Beijing’s assistance. Afghanistan was a proxy war, and Taliban have been fed intelligence, analysis, training, strategy and supplies from PRC/SCO that enabled Taliban’s victory. The Taliban are unlikely to question the wisdom of their masters in Beijing.


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Sadly true.

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Sorry damn sodomite faggots. Queers should be beaten back in to their closets for the good of western society since most of them are child molesters like Joe and Hunter Biden. Any US Military equipment that could not have been taken out of Afghanistan and Iraq should have been rendered useless with thermite grenades. Senile Joe Biden should be impeached for aiding and abetting the hajjis besides being impeached for election fraud.


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Chaos at the Kabul Airport.



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I was wrong. This isn't like Saigon in 1975. This is worse.



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It's worse that the evacuation of Vietnam because Biden takes his orders to help the Taliban from known homosexual mooslim hajji Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Hussein Obama) born in Kenya.





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Anyone else remember how Operation Babylift ended? This is a disaster that's getting ready to be even more of a disaster. But not to worry - all those paratroops we're sending over there are up to date on all their transgender awareness training.

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"...in accordance with Islamic law." You know what that means.

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So under sharia law mooslims can bitch-slap their wife for being a bitch without getting arrested for assault family violence? That's the only thing I like about mooslimism (LOL).
I heard even the married mooslems pack their butt buddie's fudge and rape sheep, sorry damn faggots.

Sow how did Operation Babylift end?


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Operation Babylift ended with a C-5 carrying hundreds of Vietnamese babies and toddlers, children of American servicemen, making an emergency landing in a meadow alongside the Saigon River. The pilot did a great job - only a few dozen children and a dozen or so military and DOD civilians were killed.

The cause of the disaster was officially attributed to a well-known structural flaw with the engine mounts on the C-5, and it was convenient for the Air Force to put the blame on that, since the AF wanted the planes fixed anyway. In reality, it was a combination of two factors. The density altitude given to the crew was a few hundred feet too low, and the plane's actual weight was heavier than the crew used in the Weights and Balances calculations, which is why the crew had to increase power beyond the aircraft's capability, causing structural damage to the wings, in order to take off. (They couldn't just abort the takeoff, the end of the runway was coming up pretty quickly.)

With these C-17's as overloaded with people as they are, it's another disaster just waiting to happen.

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From an anonymous senior military officer:

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I ask that you not use my name. I am a currently serving General Officer and what I have to say is highly critical of our current military leadership. But it must be said.

I don’t blame President Biden for the catastrophe in Afghanistan. It was the right decision to leave, the proof of which is how quickly the country collapsed without US support. Twenty years of training and equipping the Afghan army and all that they were capable of was a few hours of delay in a country the size of Texas. As for his predecessor, the only blame I place on President Trump was that he didn’t withdraw sooner.

We should blame President Bush, not for the decision to attack into Afghanistan following 9-11, but for his decision to “shift the goalposts” and attempt to reform Afghanistan society. That was a fool’s errand any student of history would have recognized. And yes, we should place blame on President Obama for his decision to double down on failure when he “surged” in Afghanistan, rather than to withdraw.

However, most of the blame belongs to the leadership of the US military, and the Army in particular. The Washington Post’s “Afghanistan Papers” detailed years of US officials failing to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan, “making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable.” That report was two years ago, and the stories within it began more than a decade before that. Afghanistan was, and always will be, “unwinnable”.

Of course, I blame President Biden for the disastrous retrograde operation still unfolding. But let us not allow that to deflect us from heaping even more blame on military leaders. They stonewalled President Trump rather than beginning deliberate preparations to exit the country when he told them to. They thought that they could outlast him and then talk sense to his successor. Then after the inauguration, they pressed the new president to reverse course. He wisely chose withdrawal. Then and only then did the generals begin their preparations in earnest. But it was too late to do it well.

The war in Afghanistan lasted more than twice as long as the Vietnam War. Although the cost in terms of American blood was thankfully far smaller, the mistakes are the same: America got involved in a long land war in Asia, in a peripheral region, in order to prop up a floundering and unreliable government, and at a time when there was a much bigger looming threat. In fact, Afghanistan was worse than Vietnam in that at least the Vietnam War was tangentially related to the effort to stop the global spread of communism during the Cold War. Afghanistan was worse than Vietnam in another respect: the military’s leaders of the Vietnam era had no precedent to dissuade them from a disastrous path. Today’s military leadership has the precedent of not just Vietnam, but also Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, and Yemen. That much obtuseness must be punished and removed from the system.

General Milley must resign. Not only is he the Chairman of the Joint Staff, prior to that he was the Chief of Staff of the Army. While all services share the blame, the Army is the land domain proponent. The 20 years of failure in Afghanistan is an Army failure. Scores of other generals also deserve a thorough evaluation; many of them are complicit in the lies to protect a decades-long failed strategy.

Secretary of Defense Austin also must be fired. The recently retired Army general and former CENTCOM commander was, and still is, part of the culture that is impervious to the fact that 20 years of trying it their way did not work.


Just as it did after Vietnam, the military, and especially the Army, must conduct a comprehensive review of why it exists. The purpose of the Army is to visit profound violence on our nation’s enemies; it is not to rebuild failed states. We have decades of experience: counter-insurgencies and nation-building does not work for America. We do not have the stomach for long wars of occupation—and that is a good thing. We are a nation of commerce, not conflict. A constellation of retired stars will tell you that the two can coexist. They are wrong. Retired Vice Chief of Staff of the Army General Jack Keane said only two months ago that because Afghanistan consumes just a small portion of the force, America “can afford the cost of fighting” there. What he does not see is that for 20 years, that “small portion” was the most important portion of the military. Everything else necessarily is subservient to the portion of the force in conflict. It has altered who the Army is and how it thinks. There exists only a handful of officers below the general officer ranks who served during the Cold War and who have lived through an era of great power conflict. From private through brigade commander, virtually every Army Soldier serving today has experienced little other than counterinsurgencies or nation-building while operating out of secure FOBs. Large scale combat operations and insurgencies require different cultures and mindsets. In a resource constrained environment, the same service cannot do both well. The Army today could not win a major war. Yet, winning a major war, is the number one reason why an Army exists. It will take a generation to break bad habits, to think in terms of closing with and destroying the enemy versus winning hearts and minds. Keane sees raw numbers (and ignores the stark evidence that there was no progress over 20 years) and thinks that America’s Army can sustain that level of commitment. It cannot, and the opportunity cost to the culture of the force is much too great. Ignore him. Ignore Petraeus, McMaster, Stavridis, and the rest of their ilk.

Concurrent with its review of purpose, the Army must reevaluate its size and how it is organized. The active component is much too large. That makes it too eager to get involved in irrelevant theaters where failure is likely or even preordained. It should be very difficult for an American president to deploy the Army without the National Guard performing most combat operations. You argue that that takes time? Yes, that’s the point: it should take time to make the case to the American people that war is worth it.

The Marine Corps must provide the nation’s rapid response forces. It is a self-contained deployable multi-domain force. Some would argue that the service has both insufficient combat power and staying power. However, that is a feature, and not a flaw, as it forces the nation to rely on its Army—and hence its reserve components—before engaging in heavy combat or lengthy operations. The current Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Berger, already seems to recognize his service’s role—hence his decision to eliminate armor from the Corps.

Congress must reevaluate the authorities contained within Sections 12301 through 12304 of Title X. The president has too much latitude to, on his own authority, mobilize tens or even hundreds of thousands of Guardsmen and Reservists without congressional approval. It must be the policy of the United States that we do not place our service members in harm’s way without first making the case to the American people. This also means ending the 2001 and 2002 Authorizations for Use of Military Force as well as strengthening Congress’ role in the War Powers Act such that, absent an actual declaration of war, there can be no war.

Some would argue that such a constraint would limit the nation’s ability to respond to a Russian incursion in the Baltics or a Chinese attack on Taiwan. However, recent open-source studies conclude that the US military already is unable to defend against either attack. Pretending otherwise while not having the means to back up our assurances unnecessarily emboldens our partners and allies, making such an attack more likely. We lose nothing by making the law match the reality.

Let us not forget the intelligence agencies. They reported that Kabul was at risk of falling in as little as 90 days. That report was from last Thursday! The capital fell in less than 90 hours. Failure must be punished. And punishment in a bureaucracy means mass firings and a smaller budget—not more money so that they might be better the next time. Congress must consolidate and collapse our intelligence agencies. And when its reorganization is done, if the overall size of the nation’s intelligence apparatus is a quarter of what it is now, that still is too large.

And while we are on the topic of “too large,” DoD must be halved. There are too many flag officers, too many agencies, departments, and directorates. It is the only secretariat with independent but supposedly subordinate secretaries. There are too many Geographic Component Commands—each led by a 4-star virtual proconsul whose budget dwarfs what the Department of State spends in their regions. The result is a foreign policy that is overly military and underly diplomatic, informational, and economic. Congress must revisit the 1947 National Security Act and the 1986 Goldwater-Nichols Act. Both were good for their times, but after decades of experience, there clearly are new reforms necessary.

Unreformed, DoD is an inscrutable labyrinth which invites fraud, waste, and abuse. The excess attracts unscrupulous camp followers. Amazon did not choose Crystal City to locate its new headquarters because of low rents and ease of transportation access for its 25,000 employees. It chose the Arlington, Virginia neighborhood because it is two blocks from the Pentagon. That building controls the distribution of three-quarters of a trillion dollars every year. Most of it is wasted. The excess is apparent in the scores of class-A high rises housing defense contractors just blocks from the Pentagon. To end that waste, nothing so concentrates the senses as austerity.

Let me conclude with one last thought: the generals, the intelligence analysts, the defense contractors, and the pundits all leveraged America’s rarest resource: the American serviceman and woman. They are the ones who fought, and sweat, and bled, and died for what is now clearly a failed strategy and a doomed mission. Even after its failure was apparent to their leaders, they continued to enlist and reenlist, largely because their superiors—the experts—assured them that success was possible. It was not. It never was. Absent American support, Afghanistan collapsed over the length of a long weekend. That is proof enough that the last 20 years were in vain, and proof enough that the system is broken from within.


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The Washington Examiner has an article on what it's like for families to leave Kabul. Plenty of links as well.

Is today's Taliban the new Khymer Rouge? It's beginning to look that way.

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None of the experts in our government thought to contact our NATO allies before our disastrous decision to leave, and now the UK is openly debating in Parliament the usefulness of NATO and if they can trust the United States going forward since they were caught flat footed by a unilateral decision we made without speaking to them. The UK has been ride or die with us for over a century, and it’s shameful that the “experts” not only put our people in harm’s way by the thousands, but the citizens of our allies who didn’t even get a courtesy e-mail.

But hey, at least the young buck national security advisor Jake Sullivan, who has no discernable work history went to an Ivy League school and was a Rhodes scholar, right?

I really think between Afghanistan and COVID, Americans should really question why our “expert” class exists, and if they should ever be listened to again.


The last time I heard about Jake Sullivan, he was "repair American relations with allies that he regarded as being damaged during the Trump administration.” And apparently not doing very well at it.

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British paratroopers are going out into Kabul to get their people. Why aren't we?

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Because Biden is mooslim Obama's puppet and Obama wants the Taliban to kill them.
airforce, do you wish you would have voted for Trump now?


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We should be going in FULL force… along with a contingent of B-52s to leave a few “parting gifts” on our way out.


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Yes, we should have but the hajji lovers in D.C. won't do it. They would not even order the million dollar Apache Helicopters they left to be fragged or thermited. They were left as a gift from Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama II to his Taliban hajji mooslem brothers.


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Originally Posted by Texas Resistance
airforce, do you wish you would have voted for Trump now?


No regrets. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen would have done a way better job of getting us out that Biden did. That's not saying much, a potato would have done a better job. But Jo and Spike would never have given away Bagram, and would have started evacuating people the the day they took office.

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Unfortunately, Jo Jorgensen the 2020 Libertarian Party presidential nominee had no chance at all of winning the election.


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True. But at least I didn't have to vote for Tweedle-Dum or Tweedle-Dummer.

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https://halturnerradioshow.com/inde...en-mobilization-joint-base-mcchord-lewis

Sudden Mobilization: Joint Base McChord-Lewis

I got this this tonight in text from a friend here in WA. I'm unable to confirm as of yet as I'm not ot on the coast, but currently in Moses Lake, in E.WA. Tonight I saw a JSTARS doing touch and go's. That aircraft type is out of the ordinary here. Military aircraft do fly here to practice daily. Usually P3 Orion's, P8 Poseidon's, sometimes KC-46 Pegasus tankers, and occasionally F-18 Hornets, but most common is the C-17 Globemaster III's out of JBLM mentioned in the article.

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The "Forever War" isn't over. The fall of Kabul, and the disgraceful incompetence of our actions there, guaranteed it will continue.

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"I'm now the fourth American president to preside over war in Afghanistan—two Democrats and two Republicans," President Biden said during his speech on August 16. "I will not pass this responsibly on— responsibility on to a fifth president." He needn't have corrected himself. He did indeed irresponsibly bequeath to his successor a terrible situation in central Asia.

The best-case scenario, according to Biden, would look like this: Afghanistan's reversion to Islamofascism fades from the international headlines. The Taliban understands that its continued rule depends on its ability to prevent terrorists from launching attacks from its territory. America goes back to fighting over masks and vaccinations and "building back better," or whatever.

But the best-case scenario is an illusion. Why? Because the war isn't over. Afghanistan is just one front in a global conflict that the United States did not initiate and cannot wish away. The Cold War did not end when the South Vietnamese government collapsed. Nor will the war on terror or the "Long War" or the "Forever War" cease with Taliban control of Afghanistan. When participants in the worldwide Salafist-jihadist movement look at the developments of the last week, they don't see reasons to quit their mayhem. They see the chaos, panic, violence, disorder, and American retreat as a vindication of their ideology and a spur to further action.

It's happened before. North Vietnam's victory over the South did not make communism less expansionist or revolutionary. On the contrary: Laos fell to the Communists, Cambodia was subjected to the barbarism of the Khmer Rouge, Cuba sent advisers to the pro-Communist People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola, the Sandinistas overthrew the anti-Communist Somoza dictatorship in Nicaragua, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, and a pro-Communist insurgency took root in El Salvador. The relentless humiliations that followed America's defeat in Vietnam ended Jimmy Carter's presidency. They did not stop until Ronald Reagan shifted the nation's course.

Or try a more recent example. When America removed its troops from Iraq at the end of 2011 and failed to enforce its red line against the use of chemical weapons in Syria in 2013, the Middle East did not become less violent or pathological or dangerous. It was only a matter of time before ISIS overran the Iraqi cities of Falluja, Ramadi, and Mosul. On June 29, 2014, the terrorist army's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, announced the formation of a caliphate. Then ISIS moved toward Baghdad and enslaved and massacred Iraq's Yazidi population along the way.

So terrible was ISIS that in August 2014 President Obama intervened against it with airstrikes—an intervention that continued, with greater success, under Obama's successor. As I write, the caliphate is no more, Baghdadi is dead, and Iraq has another shot at a better future. There are 2,500 U.S. troops in Iraq and some 900 in Syria. This is not a coincidence.

How long, then, before U.S. forces return to Afghanistan? I recognize that it might feel a little silly to ask such a question at this moment. Biden already has deployed more troops to Afghanistan to evacuate civilians than were there when he gave the order to leave. Let's say, though, that the withdrawal is completed without incident—a questionable assumption—and that there are no Americans in Afghanistan by the 20th anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks. What happens next?

The first thing to note is that the Taliban faces rebellion. Demonstrations against the return of the Islamic militia have been met with violence. They may increase in number. Meanwhile, the son of the late Ahmad Shah Massoud, the legendary anti-Taliban mujahid who was murdered two days before 9/11, has announced the renewal of his family's resistance campaign. Just as the Taliban never surrendered after the U.S. intervention, neither will the former partisans of the Northern Alliance acquiesce to the collapse of Kabul. Afghanistan is too geographically and ethnically diverse to submit easily to the domination of one party.

Even a low-grade civil conflict will draw in other powers.
The list of interested parties begins with nuclear-armed Pakistan and includes Iran, Russia, China, and India. America will be forced to pay attention and likely will become involved. After all, the fate of Afghanistan is part of the "great power competition" that President Biden said he cares about.

Biden also said he's "adamant that we focus on the threats we face today in 2021—not yesterday's threats." And the "terrorist threat," he went on, "has metastasized well beyond Afghanistan." He didn't acknowledge that one of the reasons the threat spread out of Afghanistan was that for 20 years America denied it a base there. Now that the Taliban is in, and the Americans are out, the elements of al Qaeda and ISIS in Afghanistan today will be joined by more holy warriors.

Not to worry, though, said Biden. "We conduct effective counterterrorism missions against terrorist groups in multiple countries where we don't have a permanent military presence." And we can do the same thing in Afghanistan, he continued, because "we've developed counterterrorism over-the-horizon capability that will allow us to keep our eyes firmly fixed on any direct threats to the United States in the region and to act quickly and decisively if needed."

Let's hope he's right. The problem with his argument is that America does have a "military presence" in north and east Africa, Syria, and Iraq, as well as in Turkey, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan, and elsewhere. And America does have a naval presence in the Mediterranean, Persian Gulf, and Indian Ocean. Our eyes are "firmly fixed" on bad spots in the Middle East and North Africa because we are nearby. The horizon over which our counterterrorism forces must travel is short. That won't be the case in Afghanistan.

Biden created a situation in which America has neither boots nor eyes on the ground in a landlocked, mountainous country thousands of miles from port and surrounded by unfriendly states. Unlike 20 years ago, China and Russia are strong and adversarial and looking for opportunities to embarrass the United States. Every threat or attack that emanates from Afghanistan will testify to U.S. stupidity and weakness. Furthermore, the Taliban, even as it is dogged by internal opposition, will command more territory and field stronger forces than any of the Salafist-jihadist outfits scraping by in the ungoverned and contested spaces of the Maghreb, the Sahel, the Levant, and the Arabian Peninsula. Our intelligence capabilities will be hobbled and our response time lengthened.

This dispiriting assessment doesn't include the propaganda boon to the Salafist-jihadist cause. Kabul will be transformed from an island of modernity to the global capital of anti-Western jihad. International terrorism flourished alongside the Islamic State. It manifested in spectacular, mass-casualty attacks in Paris, Marseilles, San Bernardino, Orlando, and Manchester. "For a long time now Islamist movements have defined the creation of an ‘Islamic state' as their goal and standard for achievement," writes former State Department official Charles H. Fairbanks. "A state provides a better terrorist sanctuary, and has far more versatile capabilities, than a movement." A state gives a movement safe harbor, institutional support, and physical inspiration for "lone wolves" in the West to murder unbelievers. Such a state is what the Taliban will build in America's place.

"I made a commitment to the American people when I ran for president that I would bring America's military involvement in Afghanistan to an end," Biden said. "And while it's been hard and messy—and yes, far from perfect—I've honored that commitment." Yes, he has. The Taliban's military involvement in Afghanistan, however, continues in our absence. And so the Afghan people are left to suffer, the world watches agog, and America is vulnerable to resurgent Islamic extremism. The Forever War isn't over—it's entered a new phase. Where the enemy has the upper hand.


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...I heard even the married mooslems pack their butt buddie's fudge and rape sheep, sorry damn faggots.


It's worse than I thought the mooslim homo faggots also rape young boys.
"CIA Gave Afghan Warlords Viagra to Help Them 'Rape More Boys More Often' "
https://www.infowars.com/posts/repo...y-giving-them-viagara-to-rape-young-boys


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"At this point, what difference does it make?" - Hillary Clinton.

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Re: Marines Preparing to Evacuate Embassy in Kabul [Re: airforce] #176419
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Is Biden Working with the CHICOMS to Secure Release of 15,000 American Contractors? Or, Are We Witnessing the Beginning of World War III?

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All across the nation, American forces are being mobilized. Here is what have learned in the 10-11 hours.

Some of land-based military at Ft. Carson are scrambling to deploy to an undisclosed location
Luke Air Force Base is am F-35/F-16 training base to foreign based pilots, mostly from Singapore. However, some of the Air Force Pilots have been deployed to Hawaii.
Ft. Bliss has been in the news for accepting the first 10,000 Afghan allies. Under the cover of that operation, an undetermined deployment of land-based forces is underway. Some have concluded that a massive rescue mission to various locations in Afghanistan is underway and will commence withing 48-72 hours with rapid deployment teams. However, I no longer share this conclusion.
The most telling deployment is coming out of naval base in Bremerton. For the past 6 weeks, Sam Honnold and myself have been involved in reporting on a multi-national naval task force off the coast of India in supports of a 250,000 man deployment to the Chinese border. Further, the forces in South Korea and Japan have been mobilized against a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan. I have concluded that no immediate rescue operation in Afghanistan will take place. This is deployment for World War III with China. I have been told, more than once by credible sources that Millie and Biden are being left out of the command decisions for these forces. More to the point, Sam published this account, which originated with the Mexican government. Is Trump in contact with AMLO, because AMLO is NOT cooperating with the Biden handlers. The Biden handlers are working with the Bush crime family and the governors of three northern Mexican states that are on the Southern border. These three states have been working closely with the Chinese and the cartels, in part, are serving as their light infantry forces, armed by the CHICOMS. WE ARE UNDER THREAT OF INVASION ON BOTH OUR NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN BORDERS FROM EMBEDDED CHINESE FORCES! It should be noted that these three Mexican states are basically controlled by the Chinese. A state of insurrection exists within Mexico. Sam Honnold has already revealed the following to Hal Turner. Sam asked me to publish the following from his site:


https://www.subscribestar.com/posts/381349

Why War In The Pacific Is Extremely Likely


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“the commanding general of the 82nd Airborne Division has told the commander of the British special forces at the Kabul airport to cease operations beyond the airport perimeter. Maj. Gen. Christopher Donahue has told his British Army counterpart, a high-ranking field-grade officer of the British army's 22nd Special Air Service Regiment, that British operations were embarrassing the United States military in the absence of similar U.S. military operations. I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request.“
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...people-in-kabul-youre-making-us-look-bad

“There are now reports that British troops are even rescuing Americans in Kabul.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-extricate-thousands-stranded-americans/

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“The U.S. Embassy is exploring options for U.S. citizens who want to depart ... you must complete this Repatriation Assistance Request ... Repatriation flights are not free, and passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement and may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports until the loan is repaid. The cost may be $2,000USD or more per person”
https://af.usembassy.gov/security-alert-repatriation-assistance-for-u-s-citizens-august-14-2021/

Yet, you might recall:
“Amid the new surge of illegal immigrants at the southern border, the Biden administration has facilitated putting some of them on flights to cross the United States to new destinations at taxpayers’ expense.”
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/05/04/how-tsa-explains-allowing-illegal-immigrants-to-fly-with-you/


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Has anyone else noticed something curious about the mainstream media the last few days? No one seems to be defending Biden, and no one is really blaming Trump. I have to tell you, that is something I would never have called.

And worse, Biden's own Democratic leaders aren't really defending him. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said it was "too soon" to cast blame on Biden for his withdrawal plan, saying we should focus on getting our people out "first."

Could it be that everyone is realizing there's something wrong with Biden, and they want him out? It could be.

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Two congressmen too a secret trip to Kabul, and report the U.S. won't get everyone out in time. Pelosi and the administration are angry they discovered the truth.

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Two Congressmen, a Democrat Seth Moulton (D-MA) and Republican Peter Meijer (R-MI) took a secret trip to the Kabul Airport to get an idea of what is really happening with the evacuation of Americans and the Afghans who helped us in the war effort. Their report was not positive. Congressmen’s secret Kabul trip

Each of the congressmen is a military veteran, and a member of the House Armed Services Committee kept their trip a secret didn’t tell the Congressional leadership, the administration, or the State Dept. people on the ground. The military on the ground didn’t find out until their plane was about to land. After taking a commercial flight to the UAE, They flew to Kabul on a military plane and stayed in Kabul for about seven hours. Per Rep. Moulton, they “insisted on leaving in a plane that was not full, in a seat designated for crew so that we didn’t take a seat from someone else.”

The two Reps asked the press not to report their mission until they left Afghanistan airspace. They wanted their trip to be seen as information gathering, not grandstanding.

After returning, the two Congressmen released this statement praising the Americans on the ground and explaining that according to the military people on the ground there is no way that the evacuation would be done by August 31:

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As veterans we care deeply about the situation on the ground at Hamid Karzai International Airport. America has a moral obligation to our citizens and loyal allies, and we must make sure that obligation is being kept. Like many veterans, we have spent the last few weeks working without sleep to try to get as many people as we could through the gates and to safety.

As Members of Congress, we have a duty to provide oversight on the executive branch. There is no place in the world right now where oversight matters more. We conducted this visit in secret, speaking about it only after our departure, to minimize the risk and disruption to the people on the ground, and because we were there to gather information, not to grandstand. We left on a plane with empty seats, seated in crew-only seats to ensure that nobody who needed a seat would lose one because of our presence.

Washington should be ashamed of the position we put our service members in, but they represent the best in America. These men and women have been run ragged and are still running strong. Their empathy and dedication to duty are truly inspiring. The acts of heroism and selflessness we witnessed at HKIA make America proud.

We came into this visit wanting, like most veterans, to push the president to extend the August 31st deadline. After talking with commanders on the ground and seeing the situation here, it is obvious that because we started the evacuation so late, that no matter what we do, we won’t get everyone out on time, even by September 11. Sadly and frustratingly, getting our people out depends on maintaining the current, bizarre relationship with the Taliban.

In the coming days, we will have more to share with our colleagues and the American people about what we learned, but after meeting with Marines, soldiers, and dedicated State Department officials on the ground—we want the world to know first and foremost that we have never been prouder to be Americans.


The reaction by the administration and Congressional leadership was not positive.

While the two were still on the flight home, Pelosi sent a memo to all members of the house to “reiterate that the Departments of Defense and State have requested that Members not travel to Afghanistan and the region during this time of danger. Ensuring the safe and timely evacuation of individuals at risk requires the full focus and attention of the US military and diplomatic teams on the ground in Afghanistan.”
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Read the whole thing at the link.

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Originally Posted by airforce

After talking with commanders on the ground and seeing the situation here, it is obvious that because we started the evacuation so late, that no matter what we do, we won’t get everyone out on time, even by September 11.

BLUFOR is encircled, have an agreement to withdraw by a certain date but appear unable to fulfill those agreed to obligations. REDFOR, presently encircling BLUFOR, says there will be “consequences” if exfiltration not completed on time.

We may be witnessing an imminent blunder of grand historical significance slowly unfolding before our eyes.


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At least three Marines are reported killed or wounded in a suicide bombing. The talking heads at Faux News are all speculating it is ISIS, not the Taliban, that's responsible.

The obvious thing to do would be to retake Bagram and other airfields, until we get all of our people out. Will Biden do that? Not a chance.

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At least four Marines were killed. That number may rise.

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At least 12 servicemen are now dead. And still no briefing from the White House or the Pentagon. I suspect they're trying to find some way to spin this.

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