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Wiki leaks #134503
11/29/2010 03:25 AM
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Doesn'T anyone else think this Wiki Leaks could just be a cyber false flag event to swing the public sentiment towards Government Internet control and shutting down any sight they deam hostile? I think its highly suspicious. SEMPER FI


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If they wanted a "false flag," they wouldn't have had to release hundreds of thousands of documents--many which make the current (and past) administration look incredibly duplicitous and inept. (I'm not kidding. Our State Department makes Frank Drebin look competent.)

William A. Jacobsen in his blog says that Wikileaks has finally completed Obama's transformation into Jimmy Carter, by exposing just how impotent a superpower we are. Frankly, I think Jimmy Carter is starting to look pretty good right now, but he has a point.

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Glenn Beck had an interesting take on this on his radio show today. Follow the link. He's been talking for weeks about the Progressive "top down, bottom up, inside out" approach. It certainly makes sense.


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Yea bulletboy,

His take on it was sure interesting. I think he was right on the stir up conflict idea.

What we are seeing is exactly what he has been saying about communist/progressive cloward and privens method of destroy the system through overload of benefits and social and political disorder.

If you go to the blaze.com. Then scroll down toward the bottom the PSL says it in their own words... Communists/progressives think now is their chance.

They may be right, many sheep seem to be willing to "sacrifice essential freedom for temporary security" right now.

Just check out what happened on OPT Out day. All well most everyone was willing for others to protect their freedom, but not willing to do anything that might slow their chances to arrive at Grandma house.

This is what most of us in the Militia for more then a few years, have been saying forever.

To many yelling, typing, writing, complaining and whining, not enough willing to risk what they spent years gathering. It seems "stuff" is more important then the future of their kids and desendents.

A tough situation all the way around.

The choice we patriots have to make is.... Do we wait for the rest of the sheep to wake up or do we do what the communist say?

The quote by one of the communist on the blaze.com was. We need only 1% of the populace to change the country to a socialist/ workers paradise.

Well gentlemen that would suggest to me that we also only need 1% to return to the ideas of the founders. Or at least match the communist in the battle.


That makes me wonder though is fighting the communist/progressives a false flag to allow the top down/bottom up/ inside out theory to succeed?


so I believe we must have not only 1% of the population, but 25% of the military and some of the Generals and the ability to control the media. Otherwise we have to fight a battle with police/military and progressive media outlets and the sheep who believe everything the government says.

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Here\'s an intersting item you won\'t hear about anywhere else:

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The recent Wikileaks diplomatic document dump contains a cable from shortly before Germany's 2009 general election, articulating worries among US diplomats that the German Free Democratic Party's strong support for individual data privacy and protections against unreasonable search and seizure might hinder the efforts of the American national security state.... The cable frames the FDP's support for citizens' privacy rights and individual liberties as a hindrance to US security strategy, and states that, if it were to join a ruling coalition in Germany, the party would scrutinize any proposals that would require sharing or accessing of information concerning private individuals. The cable faults the party's "limited government viewpoint" for its opposition to data-sharing measures that would infringe on the privacy rights of individuals.

In a most ironic turn, the leaked cable scoffs at FDP Parliamentarian Gisela Piltz, who cautioned against data-sharing operations with the US government on the grounds that the US government as a whole lacks effective data protection measures even as it accumulates massive amounts of data on innocent citizens.
I'd say it's pretty obvious now that the U.S. "lacks effective data protection measures." laugh

So it's okay for governments to spy on people, but wrong for people to spy on governments. Anybody wanna know why I'm an anarchist?

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This and other docs leaked,accidently on purpose...Building up to a false flag civil unrest emergency for the lock down of America...The beginning of the End of America,is over...Welcome to the middle of the End!

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This and other docs leaked,accidently on purpose...Building up to a false flag civil unrest emergency for the lock down of America...The beginning of the End of America,is over...Welcome to the middle of the End!
Can you explain how these very embarrassing documents are leading up to a civil unrest false flag?


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I was wondering that myself. To me the Wikileaks documents only prove what the liberals all know but hate to admit; that Barak Obama is exactly like George W Bush. He came into office and nothing changed at all about our foreign policy. Well, he does bow a lot to foreign dictators and apologize for our country's successes. But none of the things that actually make a difference have changed, and Wikileaks has proved it.


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SBL/parasks, It is easy and is actually a system used by the communist for years.

Beck is on to something with out even knowing how true what he is saying is.

Kruschev said it back in the 50's He said he'd bury us without firing a shot.

Cloward and pivens said how to do it, in the 60's they said collapes the system.

How?

you load up the Federal government with all kinds of benefits, welfare, social security, more government programs, Federal agencies, health care, load it up past the point where the GDP came pay for it.

Then it will collapes under the deficits.

Once it is on the brink you use the bottom up top down inside out method, that Van Jones was discussing.

You get the students, communists, labor unions and just the poor to riot in the streets once benefits are cut.

In other words put pressure on from the bottom and turn things inside out.

If you stir enough grief for the sheep. They will ask the governmnet to save them.

Send in the troops and crush the rebellion. Now if Socialist/communist are hiding in the leadership of the country and in charge of the government.

They say hey we can help but that capitalist/republic needs to be changed to Democratic socialism. or nation socialism.

just like the thirties in Germany.

Once you give up a freedom in any country, it has never I repeat never been restored before that country was no more.


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Is everyone aware that 95% of the country believes that Wiki Leaks is an anti American Spy.
They buy into the American Intelligence material. I have had patriots tell me that we should send Delta Force or the Seals to Europe to take him out.
They don't realize that this info is coming from Military and Civilian personnel who are tired of seeing some people get away with murder and robery while others are prosecuted by the Government.

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What I see happening with this Wikileaks thing is that the government will make their much lusted after grab for control over the internet. They've been trying for awhile with the whole net neutrality thing; this just gives the government the catalyst to act.


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What I see happening with this Wikileaks thing is that the government will make their much lusted after grab for control over the internet. They've been trying for awhile with the whole net neutrality thing; this just gives the government the catalyst to act.
That is a grave possiblility. "The internets bad, they leak our important top-secret-stuff for everyone to see" They could say, while the sheople don't question why the documents are secret in the first place.


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Originally posted by Walfred:
[b] This and other docs leaked,accidently on purpose...Building up to a false flag civil unrest emergency for the lock down of America...The beginning of the End of America,is over...Welcome to the middle of the End!
Can you explain how these very embarrassing documents are leading up to a civil unrest false flag? [/b]
The bottom half of the beast(Unions,liberal groups and community organizations) will raise the biggest stink over this issue(and they have) calling for the web to be come a "closed" system(censored).While others work to create an air of distrust and unrest unrest.Clamming that the whole system is corrupt and must come down.Just one possible scenario.Clearly anything like civil unrest will be peppered with socialist provocateurs...

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