A federal building in mid 90’s brought the media magnifying glass down on the Militia. Now, a federal building in Austin will bring the same magnifying glass down on the Tea Party. Coincidence? Not likely.

this the day after a false flag event......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Icc-ULgk0

So if Mr. Stack flew the plane into the building, which one was it? The yellow one or the blue and white one?

Mr.Stack was dead before the plane left the ground.Drone computer controlled by a ground based operator flew the small plane into the building filled with c-4.Wakeup now or when the false flag nuke attack hits you will buy the Iran blamed cover story.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Icc-ULgk0

And no one was injured in a building supposed to be packed, with an explosion that would have incinerated anyone inside.
And Stacks house caught fire earlier that day.

His house burned the night before!And, he was not held for questioning.His plane just fly's away the next day....Also the FBI was put on alert for this the day before.

Nullification, interposition, and secession by most of the several states (or conversely expulsion of five or so trouble making, endemically collectivist cities) are the only politically peaceful solutions left and they are long shots. I honestly see no way to preserve the current Union and still live in freedom. I am not against a new league or Union, but this one has got to go. A dictatorship could possibly hold it together, but screw that!

Come to think of it, these United States would work alot better if New York, D.C., Chicago, Boston, Detroit, Miami, San Francisco, L.A., and Seattle were not in the electoral mix. Hell, we could even kick out New Orleans. Perhaps if we tease them enough they will seek independence on their own. They all have access to the sea, so they cannot complain about being land locked.

For what it is worth, this attack seems fishy. The timing bothers me, as does the strange facts about Stack's job, the FBI tip off, the complete gutting of the building, and the fact that the anti-Tea Party rhetoric started almost immediately. He might have been a kamakasi patriot, or he might have been a Manchurian canidate. I suppose time will tell. It doesn't smell right, though, I will say that.

Here is a good one, but from a non-violent Libertarian prospective:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer207.html

Joe Stack’s Intriguing Connections With Defense Contractors, Intelligence Agencies

Austin suicide pilot jointly leased hanger with manager of air defense systems manager


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Austin suicide pilot Joe Stack kept some very interesting company as far as the client list for his software programming company is concerned, including a defense contractor with NSA and Homeland Security connections that ironically dealt with air defense systems.

The Georgetown Airport hanger in which Stack’s ill-fated Piper Cherokee was kept was jointly leased by Stack and a man called John Podolak, records show.

The Of Goats and Men blog highlights the fact that Podolak was appointed in 2004 to manage L-3 Avisys’ Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Counter-MANPADS (Man-Portable Air Defense Systems) initiative.

L-3 Avisys is a defense contractor with its main headquarters based in Austin Texas which sells products and works closely with the Department of Defense and unnamed “U.S. Government intelligence agencies”.

Podolak was hired to “oversee a strong team of more than 10 IRCM defense suppliers who will perform research studies and lead the transition of the team’s proposed CAPS (Commercial Airliner Protection System) technology to the airline industry.”

L-3 was also a key client for Stack’s software programming business. Stack helped develop a GPS-based Fight Management System for IEC, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of L-3.

L-3 was also investigated by the SEC for its role in the suspicious number of “put options” on United and American Airlines, speculation that a company’s stock will fall, in the days before 9/11.

Joe Stacks Intriguing Connections With Defense Contractors, Intelligence Agencies 190110banner4

Indeed, former NSA official Wayne Madsen wrote in September 2008 that, “A long-time L-3 Communications consultant for the National Security Agency (NSA) was, according to our source, one of the very few recipients of the live video stream that caught the first plane hitting the North Tower.”

“Other clients on the list such as DMC Stratex Networks and Sorrento Electronics also are defense contractors and probably a closer examination of these and other corporations on Stack’s client list will reveal more interesting details,” notes the blog.

The blog also highlights transponder flight tracking records of Stack’s plane which show that its last journey took place on August 6, 2009, and not on February 18 last week when the aircraft was slammed into the Echelon building.

One poster on the Prison Planet forum speculates, “This plane may still be in a hanger at GTU.”

Could Stack’s lightweight Piper Cherokee really have caused such drastic damage to the facade of the Echelon building when compared with other small planes that have crashed into buildings like that of New York Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle?

The huge fireball reported by eyewitnesses could well have been as a result of extra fuel canisters Stack had loaded onto the plane to inflict maximum damage, but this has yet to be confirmed by authorities.

Intimate ties with defense contractors, not just through his software company, but on a personal level with L-3’s John Podolak will only serve to deepen the intrigue surrounding the motivation behind Stack’s attack on the IRS building, with scant details having emerged since the tragic incident last week.

Another startling contradiction comes in the form of Stack’s last words, which were reported by the media and apparently confirmed by audio from air traffic control tapes to be, “Thanks for your help, have a good day.”

However, audio taken from radio scanners who also recorded Stack’s last words is slightly different from that being forwarded as the official version. The second version of the audio, Stack’s final words are, “I’m definitely checking out, have a good day.”

A comparison of the two clips can be heard at this link.

While one eyewitness described seeing no pilot in the cockpit, another told WeAreAustin.com, “The pilot looked like he was in a comatose state; leaning back and going on in.”

Another interesting discrepancy to have emerged is the fact that Stack’s daughter told the Associated Press that Stack’s suicide note did not sound like it was written by him.

“It’s not him. The letter itself sounds like it’s coming from a different person. It didn’t sound like it came from him,” Samantha Dawn Bell told the AP.

This event was False Flag terror attack to turn the public against militias/patriots..............The next false flag attack will put America on lockdown and begin martial law.

Unlikely ! all the combined armed forces of China and Russia and India and Brittan are still a fraction of the armed American populace, the total combined forces of the U.S, is only 1.4 million.

Martial law in terms of military ocupation of the U.S. is a paper tiger.

Fear is the greatest weapon in the US arsenal to be used in Marshal law, Fear is there force multiplier,That's why we see so much of the thermal image's of Hellfire attacks and smart bomb attacks,Davidians all burned up,Microwave crowd control, image's of FEMA camps, SWAT teams over powering civilians,Cops shooting unarmed people,High speed chases that never end well for the chase-E. All part of there SYC OPS pre Marshal law planning.They have been setting this up for decades!Remember the Gas lines of the seventies all faked all control,Now we have DHLS,FEMA,FBI,CIA,DEA,BATFE and Obama's CIVILIAN SNITCH FORCE.Its actually pretty simple,Divide and concor. Be ready, SEMPER FI

Stratiotes,said:Unlikely ! all the combined armed forces of China and Russia and India and Brittan are still a fraction of the armed American populace, the total combined forces of the U.S, is only 1.4 million.

Martial law in terms of military ocupation of the U.S. is a paper tiger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtEuZrBzl8k

You assume that all the armed Americans will aid in the rescue of our Republic.I pray you are right.The group behind this action is not concerned with winning a war with the American people.They need only cause chaos and mass death to get what they want.A people weary of war and hunger giving into a New World Order under their control.

On the other hand one cant assume all 1.4 in the military will hold ranks

It's very easy to bring the vast majority of people into compliance. Just cut off the electricity and the food...maybe deny access to their bank accounts and they will do what they're told.

Joe Stack’s Intriguing Connections With Defense Contractors, Intelligence Agencies


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Austin suicide pilot Joe Stack kept some very interesting company as far as the client list for his software programming company is concerned, including a defense contractor with NSA and Homeland Security connections that ironically dealt with air defense systems.

The Georgetown Airport hanger in which Stack’s ill-fated Piper Cherokee was kept was jointly leased by Stack and a man called John Podolak, records show.

The Of Goats and Men blog highlights the fact that Podolak was appointed in 2004 to manage L-3 Avisys’ Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Counter-MANPADS (Man-Portable Air Defense Systems) initiative.

L-3 Avisys is a defense contractor with its main headquarters based in Austin Texas which sells products and works closely with the Department of Defense and unnamed “U.S. Government intelligence agencies”.

Podolak was hired to “oversee a strong team of more than 10 IRCM defense suppliers who will perform research studies and lead the transition of the team’s proposed CAPS (Commercial Airliner Protection System) technology to the airline industry.”

L-3 was also a key client for Stack’s software programming business. Stack helped develop a GPS-based Fight Management System for IEC, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of L-3.

L-3 was also investigated by the SEC for its role in the suspicious number of “put options” on United and American Airlines, speculation that a company’s stock will fall, in the days before 9/11.

Joe Stacks Intriguing Connections With Defense Contractors, Intelligence Agencies 190110banner4

Indeed, former NSA official Wayne Madsen wrote in September 2008 that, “A long-time L-3 Communications consultant for the National Security Agency (NSA) was, according to our source, one of the very few recipients of the live video stream that caught the first plane hitting the North Tower.”

“Other clients on the list such as DMC Stratex Networks and Sorrento Electronics also are defense contractors and probably a closer examination of these and other corporations on Stack’s client list will reveal more interesting details,” notes the blog.

The blog also highlights transponder flight tracking records of Stack’s plane which show that its last journey took place on August 6, 2009, and not on February 18 last week when the aircraft was slammed into the Echelon building.

One poster on the Prison Planet forum speculates, “This plane may still be in a hanger at GTU.”

Could Stack’s lightweight Piper Cherokee really have caused such drastic damage to the facade of the Echelon building when compared with other small planes that have crashed into buildings like that of New York Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle?

The huge fireball reported by eyewitnesses could well have been as a result of extra fuel canisters Stack had loaded onto the plane to inflict maximum damage, but this has yet to be confirmed by authorities.

Intimate ties with defense contractors, not just through his software company, but on a personal level with L-3’s John Podolak will only serve to deepen the intrigue surrounding the motivation behind Stack’s attack on the IRS building, with scant details having emerged since the tragic incident last week.

Another startling contradiction comes in the form of Stack’s last words, which were reported by the media and apparently confirmed by audio from air traffic control tapes to be, “Thanks for your help, have a good day.”

However, audio taken from radio scanners who also recorded Stack’s last words is slightly different from that being forwarded as the official version. The second version of the audio, Stack’s final words are, “I’m definitely checking out, have a good day.”

A comparison of the two clips can be heard at this link.

While one eyewitness described seeing no pilot in the cockpit, another told WeAreAustin.com, “The pilot looked like he was in a comatose state; leaning back and going on in.”

Another interesting discrepancy to have emerged is the fact that Stack’s daughter told the Associated Press that Stack’s suicide note did not sound like it was written by him.

“It’s not him. The letter itself sounds like it’s coming from a different person. It didn’t sound like it came from him,” Samantha Dawn Bell told the AP.

I have a work friend who swears up and down that the US military could do whatever they want because "a bunch of rednecks with rifles couldn't make a dent"...

seems like that plan is working.

America is a very big country, lots of mountains and forests, vast deserts and plains, river, lakes and natural obstacles.

In the Rodney King riots police drove over pedestrians on sides walks to escape the mobs.

Spread all the Forces Of Evil out over the entire mainland America and see just how even the odds are even with the worlds most advanced weaponry, suddenly you get the picture why the government is scared shitless of militia and attack it every chance they get.

the FOE only wins if you give up !

Remember 4-19-1775 and what a few militia did that day, we are much better off now than then, and while the majority of U.S. forces will follow orders, not all will and that is enough.

Sorry gentlemen but if you come to AWRM.org to say all is lost we have no chance just curse god and die you have not studied the material on this site well at all.

The only thing lacking for the complete restoration of life liberty and happiness is the proper organization of the militia, it is still the largest best small arms force on earth, many of the militia members have extensive military service and history.

The NMS is a starting point not a be all end all solution.

"Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and show the world that a free man, contending for his liberty on his own ground, is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth." George Washington, July 2, 1776

I have a work friend who swears up and down that the US military could do whatever they want because "a bunch of rednecks with rifles couldn't make a dent"...

seems like that plan is working........... If that was true, We would have been out of Iraq and Afghanistan years ago, most Americans have far better marksmanship training than your average 3rd World actor! And we have tasted FREEDOM, Have a history built on FREEDOM. When things go HOT, It will make those wars look like kiddy rides. SEMPER FI

Unfortunately that's the sad reality. But then again it is never the vast majority who make a difference anyway. 10% is all it may take.

Well, here we are again, debating the abilities of the military versus the abilites of the people. We can debate and debate but, victory is reliant upon the hearts of those engaged in battle. Without resources, sustaining a resistance is next to impossible but not impossible. Man, inclined to push forward by the desire to defend his own home has proven throught history to overcome obstacles even without the promise of success in sight.

The reality of the situation is that when the time comes we will make-do with what we have, lack thereof be damned. It serves no purpose to debate a hyopthetical that relies on the calousness of a brother against a brother. Many times throughout our (mans') history our perception of friend and foe has betrayed us.

Let us leave this argument behind for the last time and push forward with an assessment of our current state of readiness and supplies. Those two attributes play a key role in the length of time that we can resist without the need for innovation.

Can we agree that this present government must be abolished ?

Aye

For the record I would like to motion that we condemn the action of the Federal government from the presidency of Lincoln to the present. Prior to his unlawful assertion of authority of the Federal government over the rights of the soveriegn nations that comprise the United States to seceed, there was a glimmer of hope that the Republic could have been steered back to it's proper course and allowed to mature as a beacon of liberty to the world. After his criminal acts and the complicity of the northern staets there was a precedence set that the states would yield their sovreignty to the Federal Criminals in DC.

Regardless, the line in the sand ends at the bounds of the Constitution of the United States. That line was crossed long ago and in what our fathers and their fathers before them failed, it is our obligation and our childrens obligation to abolish the tyrrants and form a new government. It is the right of the people to be governed by a government of our choosing and which respects the authority of those governed. Without the consent of the people this government is nothing more than thieves manning the gates to our birth-right.

A long list of usurptions? -Since 1864, again and again.

+1 STRATIOTES,Today I watched the bipartisan healthcare DEBATE(or as much as I could stand), Just one more stupid SHAM, waist of time! SEMPER FI

"Debate" I think it was a distraction... While the people watched it Congress probably took away another right... Like renewing the patriot act.