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Oklahoma Bill Outlawing Militia #151430
04/29/2010 01:55 PM
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Oklahoma Passes Bill Outlawing Militia Recruitment


Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
April 28, 2010

Last week the Oklahoma House of Representatives passed a bill that equates recruiting militia members to recruiting gang members.

“Recruiting membership in an unauthorized militia or the Ku Klux Klan would be a crime if legislation approved Thursday by the House of Representatives becomes law. ‘This is making unauthorized militias illegal,’ said Rep. Mike Shelton, the amendment’s author,” News OK reported on Thursday.

Shelton wants to send people to prison who do not ask the state for permission to form a militia. If the bill becomes law, it will likely be challenged as unconstitutional. However, the bill and its passage in the Oklahoma House reveals there is support on the part of lawmakers to deny citizens their rights under the First Amendment (specifically, the right to peaceably assemble).

A news report video on the law can be viewed here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyJOXvIivsY

Shelton exploited the government attack on the federal building in Oklahoma City fifteen years ago in order to rationalize the law. “In Oklahoma, we have seen the damage done by militia fanatics,” he said. “The Ku Klux Klan has a long history of violence and domestic terrorism.”

It sounds like Mr. Shelton has read too much Southern Poverty Law Center literature. The Ku Klux Klan is not only almost entirely dormant — with the exception of a few FBI-run stragglers kept around just in case the race card needs to be played — but the throwback organization has nothing to do with state militia movements.

Even the ADL admits that Timothy McVeigh was not associated with a militia group.

“Involvement in those types of organizations should be treated no differently than participation in an urban gang,” said Shelton, a Democrat.

“Shelton’s amendment was filed about a week after news reports indicated some in Oklahoma tea party groups supported a volunteer militia to help defend the state’s sovereignty against federal government infringement. Several tea party leaders later said they had been talking about reinstituting a state guard, which would help with emergencies and would be under the direction of the governor and Legislature,” News OK adds.

Rep. Mike Reynolds, R-Oklahoma City, asked Shelton if he characterized the Black Panthers as an unauthorized militia.

“Are they going around terrorizing communities, doing drive-by shootings, using ammonium nitrate to blow up buildings?” Shelton asked. “When they start doing that, they would be considered (that).”

Militia groups have never been accused or prosecuted for using ammonium nitrate to blow up buildings.

Shelton’s bill has moved to the Oklahoma Senate.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
Re: Oklahoma Bill Outlawing Militia #151431
04/29/2010 04:47 PM
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I spoke with a friend of mine in the OK legislature today. He feels that the above amendment will be removed when it comes back to the House.

I reminded him that Section 311 of US Code Title 10 defines the unorganized militia as all 17-45 year old males. Passage of this bill with the "Militia" amendment would make about 50% of Oklahoma men felons over night by default.

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Jim Stach gives his 2cents on the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA6fqKJNmtc
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What's a militia?

I mean, if you get together and call yourselves say, a airsoft club or some kind of action shooting club or a hiking club or whatever involves shooting and skulking about in the woods-who's to say you meet their legal definition of 'militia'.

Doesn't mean you don't fulfill the role of militia with your activities you're just throwing up a legal speed bump. Just presenting an option unless you desire a confrontation. Given the current campaign against gun owning patriotic Americans... well things could turn hot real quick.


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I consider myself to be a community organizer.


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I consider myself to be a community organizer.
Not one to stir up trouble. . .but that sounds like something a Commie would say. ( I am a Cold War boomer. )


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The language in Senate Bill 2018 to criminalize militia activity in Oklahoma has been removed. A friend of mine in the legislature spoke with the author of the bill who confirmed the above.

He stated that the author (Shelton IIRC) may try to reinsert into another bill.

Okies, keep your eyes peeled!

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pericles.... have you lost your mind!!!!! laugh


I believe in absolute Freedom, as little interference from any government as possible...And I'll fight any man trying to take that away from me.

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pericles.... have you lost your mind!!!!! laugh
I'm organizing my local community into fire teams, squads, platoons ..... and a LOGPAC element.

Aren't you?


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from what I read on the OK house website the bill is currently held up in committee... hopefully we can get that nonsense dropped cold.

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05/20/2010 04:31 PM
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You don't expect them to just give it back, do you?

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