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The iran Deal is Dead #161522
05/08/2018 05:42 AM
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So says the New York Times. The formal announcement isn't expected for a couple more hours, so I suppose things may change.

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Re: The iran Deal is Dead #161523
05/08/2018 07:24 AM
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It's official. President Trump will withdraw from the deal. But I doubt he's going to get that $400 million in cash back.

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Kill the Iran deal, open Pandora\'s Box. A new article by Emma Ashford at Cato.

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...by blowing up the nuclear deal today without offering any clear strategy or plan for an alternative, Donald Trump is opening Pandora’s Box, increasing the risks of escalation and bringing us gradually closer to conflict with Iran.

Initially, it probably won’t look that bad. The President’s decision today may not even look like an absolute withdrawal from the deal. Even if he declines to waive sanctions, penalties will not kick in for 180 days, and Trump or his advisors may well suggest that European states can continue to negotiate during this period.

Yet the act of refusing to waive sanctions itself will deter companies from investing in Iran, and there is little chance that Iran will agree to the additional sanctions and restrictions that the Trump administration is now proposing as unilateral amendments to the deal. Otherwise, the Trump administration has given no indication of any diplomatic follow-on steps they will take with regard to Iran’s nuclear program.

Nor has the administration given any indication that they intend to have a broad public discussion on military action against Iran, though it is clear that many members of the administration - from new Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to National Security Advisor John Bolton – favor such an approach. Instead, the steps that Trump has already taken, such as increasing troops in Syria, and his decision to withdraw from the deal generally raise the risk of escalation and conflict with Iran or Iranian proxies throughout the region.

Conflict between the US and Iran may not happen; we could get lucky. But Trump’s choice to withdraw from the JCPOA today – and his choice to move to a more confrontational approach to Iran – raises that risk substantially. If US troops come into conflict with Iranian proxies inside Syria, broader conflict could easily result. Likewise, escalation is possible if US allies like Israel decide to take matters into their own hands and strike Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Put simply, Trump’s decision today doesn’t mean we’re about to have a public discussion like the one in 2003 that helped to set the US on a course to war in Iraq. Yet his administration’s choices and actions are nonetheless raising the likelihood of small-scale conflict that could easily spiral into something bigger. The President’s decision today may well end up counted among the worst blunders in recent U.S. foreign policy.
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“The United States No Longer Makes Empty Threats”

“When I Make Promises, I Keep Them.”

Steve Watson | Infowars.com - May 9, 2018


Addressing the decision to pull out of the Iranian nuclear deal forged by Obama, President Trump vowed Tuesday that ‘the United States no longer makes empty threats.’

“Today’s action sends a critical message: the United States no longer makes empty threats,” Trump said, adding “When I make promises, I keep them.”

“As we exit the Iran deal, we will be working with our allies to find a real, comprehensive, and lasting solution to the Iranian nuclear threat,” Trump said.

“This will include efforts to eliminate the threat of Iran’s ballistic missile program, to stop its terrorist activities worldwide, and to block its menacing activity across the Middle East.”

“In the meantime, powerful sanction also go into full effect,” Trump said. “If the regime continues its nuclear aspirations, it will have bigger problems than it has ever had before.”

The President also referred to his ongoing efforts to forge peace between North and South Korea.

“In fact, at this very moment, Secretary Pompeo is on his way to North Korea in preparation for my upcoming meeting with Kim Jong Un,” Trump said.

“Plans are being made. Relationships are building. Hopefully, a deal will happen. And with the help of China, South Korea, and Japan, a future of great prosperity and security can be achieved for everyone.” the President added.

Trump’s decision regarding Iran was met with scorn and indignation by the Islamic Republic, with Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei stating that Iran will “stand strong” and outlast Trump whose “corpse” will be “worm food”:

U.S. pres.'s shallow & ludicrous behavior wasn't unexpected. The same behavior existed in previous US presidents. Yet, Iranian nation is persistent while former U.S. presidents passed away & IRI is still standing. This man's corpse will also be worm food while IRI stands strong.

— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) May 9, 2018

Iran’s parliament, and its people burned American flags and chanted their usual tribe of “Death to America!’:

Iranian lawmakers set fire to a US flag in parliament and chanted "death to America" after US President Donald Trump pulled out of the nuclear pact https://t.co/Nu3nOO5HUC pic.twitter.com/Uly2Zun45r

— CNN (@CNN) May 9, 2018

It's not just Iran's government that are burning American flags and chanting "Death to America!" in response to the Trump administration leaving the Iran nuclear deal.

The Iranian people are also doing it.pic.twitter.com/uZThTBG2Ta

— Ryan Saavedra 🇺🇸 (@RealSaavedra) May 9, 2018

The speaker of Iran’s parliament said that Trump does not have the “mental capacity” for his job.

“Trump’s abandoning of the nuclear deal was a diplomatic show… Iran has no obligation to honor its commitments under the current situation,”Ali Larijani said. “It is obvious that Trump only understands the language of force.”

Meanwhile, the US media freaked out about Trump overturning Obama’s deal, with CNN declaring that leaving the deal makes the US less safe, and provides Iran with a ‘propaganda win’:

ABC News lamented that the US is now ‘isolated from its key allies’, while MSNBC and NBC complained that the US is now seen as ‘untrustworthy’:


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861

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