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“New reporting from the upcoming book ‘Peril’ alleges that Milley reached out to his Chinese counterpart in the final months of the Trump presidency, vowing that he would warn the CCP if the commander in chief launched an attack ... authored by Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward and national political reporter Robert Costa, it is alleged that Milley made two secret phone calls, both to his Chinese counterpart, Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army. The book alleges that the phone calls took place prior to the 2020 presidential election on Oct. 30, 2020, and two days after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, on Jan. 8, 2021”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...ret-calls-with-china-occurred/ar-AAOrx7I


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Calling for the resignation of Milley? Milley committed treason and fraternized with the enemy. Milley should be court martialed and put in Leavenworth, locked up with the faggots he supports (LOL). Maybe he will be sorry he supported faggots (if he is not really a faggot).


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Originally Posted by Navarro
...New reporting from the upcoming book ‘Peril’ alleges that Milley reached out to his Chinese counterpart in the final months of the Trump presidency, vowing that he would warn the CCP if the commander in chief launched an attack ...


I was shocked when I first heard about this - until I discovered it was written by Bob Woodward. His record for accuracy and truthfulness is a little spotty, at best. There are plenty of reasons for Milley to be fired, if not court martialed, but I'm going to need a little more confirmation before I go for this one.

Onward and upward,
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Re: CJCS General Milley Allegedly Told PRC Will Warn if USA Attack [Re: airforce] #176593
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Originally Posted by Navarro
...New reporting from the upcoming book ‘Peril’ alleges that Milley reached out to his Chinese counterpart in the final months of the Trump presidency, vowing that he would warn the CCP if the commander in chief launched an attack ...


I was shocked when I first heard about this - until I discovered it was written by Bob Woodward. His record for accuracy and truthfulness is a little spotty, at best. There are plenty of reasons for Milley to be fired, if not court martialed, but I'm going to need a little more confirmation before I go for this one.

Onward and upward,
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Agreed. Both Woodward and Costa are leftwing hardliners who have made careers as leftwing propagandists. Neither are a reliable source. Milley is also a leftwing hardliner. While not unheard of, its a strange circumstance when leftwing hardliners cancel a fellow leftwing hardliner. One has to question why. Whatever the answer, and regardless if there’s any truth to this particular allegation, Milley is a leftwing hardliner and is engaged in ideological subversion and the sabotage of our nation.


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Trump on Milley’s Alleged Sabotage: ‘If It Is Actually True’ Then ‘That’s Treason’

"For him to say that I was going to attack China is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard, and everybody knows it," says former president.


By Infowars.com Tuesday, September 14, 2021

Former President Donald Trump reacted to reports from Bob Woodward’s book “Peril” that Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley secretly informed China he would give them advanced notice if America mobilized an attack.

“So first of all if it is actually true, which is hard to believe, that he would have called China and done these things and was willing to advise them of an attack or in advance of an attack, that’s treason,” Trump said on Newsmax on Tuesday.

“I’ve had so many calls today saying, ‘That’s treason,’” Trump continued. “For him to say that I was going to attack China is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard, and everybody knows it.”

“I have to tell you, I don’t know if they have him on tape saying this, but I found Woodward and I found his cohorts to be extremely dishonorable people,” Trump noted. “I did not ever think of attacking China.”

“For him to say that I would even think about attacking China, I think he’s trying to just get out of his incompetent withdrawal out of Afghanistan,” the 45th President claimed.

“The worst, the dumbest thing that anybody’s seen, probably the most embarrassing thing that’s ever happened to our country. They killed our soldiers, we left with embarrassment on our face, we left Americans behind, and we left $85 billion dollars worth of the best equipment in the world, that I bought, because I rebuilt the military, and then Biden gave it away,” he added.


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Gen. Milley Confirms Secret Phone Call To China, Defends Treasonous Action as Part of His “Duties”
Biden White House and Deep State minions like John Bolton also circling the wagons around Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman.

By Jamie White | INFOWARS.COM Wednesday, September 15, 2021

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley confirmed that he made secret phone calls to the Communist Chinese assuring he’d first warn them of any military action against them, but claimed that was simply part of his “duties.“

Instead of denying that he made two secret phone calls outside the military chain of command to Chinese counterparts before and after the 2020 election claiming Trump may attack them, Milley said he was just doing his job.

“The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs regularly communicates with Chiefs of Defense across the world, including with China and Russia,” Milley’s spokesman Colonel Dave Butler said in a statement Wednesday.

“His calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with these duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability.”

Joe Biden, the Pentagon, and several other Deep State minions also came to bat for the embattled general following the explosive reports made in journalist Bob Woodward’s book “Peril.”

The Pentagon defended Milley reportedly operating outside military chain of command when conducting a secret meeting on January 8 ordering DoD officials not to obey lawful commands from then-President Trump without his presence.

“I see nothing in what I’ve read that would cause any concern,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters Wednesday.
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Joe Biden’s press secretary Jen Psaki likewise said the Biden administration has “complete confidence” in Milley while also accusing former President Trump of “fomenting insurrection.”

Trump’s former National Security Adviser and Deep State minion John Bolton also defended Milley’s secret correspondence with Communist China.

“Mark Milley is a staunch supporter of the Constitution and the rule of law. His patriotism is unquestioned,” Bolton said in a statement, ignoring the lawmakers currently calling for Milley to be court-martialed and removed in light of these revelations.

Bolton then noted that many members of the National Security Council (NSC) were informed of Milley’s actions, as if that somehow makes Milley’s actions less egregious.

“I have no doubt General Milley consulted widely with his colleagues on the National Security Council and others during this period,” he added.

If these are the people praising Milley, you can be sure he acted against the interests of the American people and for the benefit of Communist China.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Trump SecDef Refutes Milley’s ‘Regular Comms’ Excuse, Calls For Immediate Resignation

By Zero Hedge Thursday, September 16, 2021

Update (1800ET): While General Milley and The White House must be hoping that if they just keep pointing the finger at Trump’s behavior, this whole treasonous affair will go away judging from angry comments from Christopher Miller – who was Donald Trump’s acting Secretary of Defense at the time of the calls to China – this crisis is anything but over…

JustTheNews.com’s Susan Katz Keating reports that the former Pentagon chief said he did not authorize Gen. Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to directly contact China’s top military commander – contrary to Milley’s claims that his conversations with Beijing were approved by defense officials.

Miller said he “as secretary of defense, did not and would not ever authorize” the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to hold “secret” conversations with the Chinese defense chief.

In a statement to Fox News, Miller said the alleged calls were a “disgraceful and unprecedented act of insubordination.”

“The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is the highest-ranking military officer whose sole role is providing military-specific advice to the president, and by law is prohibited from exercising executive authority to command forces,” Miller said.

“The chain of command runs from the President to the Secretary of Defense, not through the Chairman.”

Miller added that if the story of Milley’s “histrionic outbursts and unsanctioned, anti-Constitutional involvement in foreign policy prove true, he must resign immediately or be fired by the Secretary of Defense to guarantee the sanctity of the officer corps.”
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Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said he cannot verify the claims in Woodward’s book but added he “see[s] nothing in what I’ve read that would cause any concern.”

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Update (1340ET): While many Republicans described the actions of Milley as treasonous if they indeed took place, White House press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters that the president is backing Milley even if the calls did happen.

“The president believes he’s patriotic, his fidelity to our Constitution is unquestionable, and he has complete confidence in him,” Psaki said during a briefing in Washington.

Psaki claimed the context of when the calls allegedly took place was important, accusing Trump of “fomenting an insurrection,” referring to Jan. 6, and that “there was broad concern about many members of his national security team” in the wake of the U.S. Capitol breach.

“It’s the obligation of every chairman of the joint chiefs to follow constitutional order to prevent unlawful military action,” she also said.

Is anyone surprised?

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Update (1245ET): As the backlash from Woodward’s expose of General Milley’s apparently treasonous actions grows, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has issued a damage control statement (h/t @JoshRogin) (emphasis ours)

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs regularly communicates with Chiefs of Defense across the world, including with China and Russia.

These conversations remain vital to improving mutual understanding of U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict.

His calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with these duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability.

All calls from the Chairman to his counterparts, including those reported, are staffed, coordinated and communicated with the Department of Defense and the interagency.

Also in keeping with his responsibilities as senior military advisor to the President and Secretary of Defense, General Milley frequently conducts meetings with uniformed leaders across the Services to ensure all leaders are aware of current issues.

The meeting regarding nuclear weapons protocols was to remind uniformed leaders in the Pentagon of the long-established and robust procedures in light of media reporting on the subject.

General Milley continues to act and advise within his authority in the lawful tradition of civilian control of the military and his oath to the Constitution.

Quick reminder from 2015…

As @JackBeTrader so correctly noted:

“if he doesn’t deny the conversation as it was reported, then it’s an admission.”

He didn’t deny it… QED.

With 4 star generals who call our enemies and promise not to follow the commander-in-chief’s orders, China doesn’t even need an illegitimate president compromised by bribes and blackmails.

And finally, you know it’s bad when…

It takes a traitor to know a traitor.

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As 19fortyfive.com’s Daniel Davis asked (and answered) should General Milley be relieve of duty?

The Washington Post published a bombshell report on Tuesday that claims the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, took it upon himself to reach out to our greatest potential rival, China, and offer to give them advance warning of U.S. military action directed against them. Though far from the only violation of Milley’s oath of office revealed in the article, that is enough to warrant the president immediately relieving Milley of duty.

The Post article provided excerpts ahead of the release of the upcoming book “Peril” by Bob Woodard and Robert Costa chronicling the final act of the Trump presidency and the first six months of the Biden Administration. The most explosive revelation from the excerpt was the claim that Milley bypassed the White House and took it on his own to engage with the commanding general of the Chinese military.

According to Woodward and Costa, Milley feared China might believe Trump would order the United States to attack. Instead of voicing concerns to the President, instead recommending actions that might assuage Beijing of such fears, Milley took matters into his own hands.

He called – without the knowledge of the president or Secretary of State – the commanding general of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. According to Woodward and Costa, Milley told his counterpart,

“General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

For those who don’t like Trump thought his policy judgment was flawed, Milley could come across as a hero, as one who protected the country from an awful fate.

That would be shortsighted, however, and miss the true danger of allowing generals to take such powers upon themselves.

First, to the point itself, there is no evidence presented that Trump intended, much less took action to engage in a war with China, only that Milley was afraid he might. Thus, the Chairman took action by talking to our chief adversary for something that would never have happened.

Secondly, once a precedent has been set whereby a general or senior ranking official can get away with going rogue in defiance of a president, there is no going back – and would not be limited to one political party. Take a scenario related to the issue of Taiwan, for example.

Within the U.S. military and foreign policy establishment, there are roughly two schools of thought on the possibility that China might make good on its threat to unify the island by force. One is that Washington should actually give security guarantees to Taipei and defend them at all costs if China attacks. The other argues that fighting China over Taiwan is foolish, that the U.S. likely couldn’t win a war near China’s borders, and that in a worst-case scenario, the war could turn nuclear, killing millions of Americans. If Beijing does the unthinkable and does attack, Biden would be faced with a horrible dilemma.

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Make good on the implied commitment to defend Taiwan and risk a nuclear war, or allow China to successfully take Taiwan, giving some the impression of American weakness. Whichever choice Biden made, he would be guaranteed to have fierce opponents at the highest levels of the Pentagon to his decision.

Woodward and Costa claim that Milley took action because it was “a good-faith precaution,” to ensure there was, “no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.”

If Biden chose to go to war with China over Taiwan, what is to prevent Milley – or any of the other high-ranking generals who have the same strongly-held views – from again acting on his “good faith” belief that he has to prevent war with China and actively subverts the president’s decision?

Chillingly, even that might not be the worst outcome.

The idea of a military coup in America has always been considered so improbable that few would ever take the threat seriously. But acts like these Milley has taken move us dangerously close to a place where some officers in the future might consider it. They would, no doubt, be acting in what they believe to be the best interests of the country, regarding the decisions of a civilian president as representing a danger to the nation, and seize control by removing the president from power.

We fool ourselves if we don’t think that could happen in America. If we allow this continued insubordination of our top military leaders against our duly elected civilian leaders – regardless of whether we agree or strongly oppose any given policy – to succeed, we run the risk of paralyzing our government in a moment of crisis or one day suffering a coup. To forestall that possibility, we need to stop this trend dead in its tracks now.

Milley must be relieved of duty. Today.


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