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Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again

Posted By: airforce

Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/02/2010 11:23 PM

Because, you know, those libertarian groups are dangerous. Why, they want to not boss you around! You should tremble in fear!

According to the SPLC, "an astonishing 363 new Patriot groups appeared in 2009, with the totals going from 149 groups (including 42 militias) to 512 (127 of them militias) - a 244% jump" in 2008.

Who are these "new Patriot groups" we should be so frightened of? Well, the SPLC's roster includes 48 separate listings of a group called "We the People," a non-profit, largely libertarian organization founded by anti-tax activist Robert Schultz.

The report stops short--just barely--of calling the various TEA Parties "extremist groups," but it does note that they "are shot through with rich veins of radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism."

I don't give the SPLC or the ADL much credit, but it would be wise to read their report. After all, we'll undoubtedly see Janeane Garofalo or some other talking head spouting this nonsense, and it would be wise to have our responses prepared in advance.

Onward and upward,
airforce
Posted By: ConSigCor

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 07:02 AM

The SPLC is a joke on a fishing expedition. They have to keep the masses living in fear so they will continue to donate to Morris Sleaze retirement fund.

I spoke to the State Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans a couple of days ago. Seems the SPLC is going after that organization again as well.

SPLC also recently contacted Mike Vanderbough the other day wanting to do an interview about the "3 Percenters". MV told them where to get off.

Anyone who doesn't know what the SPLC is really about should watch the expose currently being broadcast on UPN.
Posted By: Red River Ranger

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 07:22 AM

I think he puts the Sons of Confederate Veterans on his list of Neo-Confederate groups because that's what they are: Neo-Confederates. In more than one interview I believe that the SCV have identified themselves as such. The problem with SPLC in this regard is that they see no difference between the Klan and Neo-Confederate groups.
Posted By: airforce

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 08:03 AM

The SPLC would put a box of Cheerios on the list of extremist groups if it would help them raise funds. Their credibility is right around zero.

Onward and upward,
airforce
Posted By: ConSigCor

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by Red River Ranger:
I think he puts the Sons of Confederate Veterans on his list of Neo-Confederate groups because that's what they are: Neo-Confederates. In more than one interview I believe that the SCV have identified themselves as such. The problem with SPLC in this regard is that they see no difference between the Klan and Neo-Confederate groups.
Actually the SCV is a Confederate heritage organization. The reason the SPLC hates them is because we honor the memory of our ancestors who had the guts to give the ferral government the finger 150 years ago. And, because we teach all who will listen why they did it and why we might need to do it again.
Posted By: Red River Ranger

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 12:02 PM

CSC,

What's the difference between that and a Neo-Confederate group? I was under the impression that they were the same thing. I believe that Trent Lot is part of the SCV, and he identified it as Neo-Confederate. PLease correct me if I'm wrong.

RRR
Posted By: ConSigCor

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 03:30 PM

RRR,

Look at it this way. You have conservatives and neo conservatives. The two may both claim to be republican but they are NOT the same. The neo-cons are nothing but "republican socialist lite".

Now, within the SCV and numerous other Southron organizations you have Confederates and neo-Cons. To the neo-cons it's all about being in some warm and fuzzy social club and honoring their ancestors. But, these same neocons will then apologize for their ancestors "transgressions" against the union...saying that's all in the past. These neo-cons will pay homage to the Lost Cause (Southron independence) then pledge allegiance to the yankee rag..one nation indivisible and all that crap. The Confederate on the other hand will not apologize and in fact will tell you that there is no such thing as the "Lost" Cause. He still hates the yankee government in Washington just as much if not more so than his ancestors did. And, he would be more than willing to "do it again" at the drop of a hat.
Posted By: Wyrm

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 04:03 PM

Nice to see my group finally made the list. It's only been a couple years and numerous 'reports' and they FINALLY got us on there.
Posted By: ConSigCor

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 04:16 PM

Wyrm, youall must be doing something right. Like they say, if you ain't taking flack, you not over the target.
Posted By: Cajunpatriot

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by Red River Ranger:
I think he puts the Sons of Confederate Veterans on his list of Neo-Confederate groups because that's what they are: Neo-Confederates. In more than one interview I believe that the SCV have identified themselves as such. The problem with SPLC in this regard is that they see no difference between the Klan and Neo-Confederate groups.
Good point here. The collectivists and imperialists always try to link the Klan (a modern Northern institution) with the Southern Movement. It is just a smear campaign, no different than linking Anti-tax, Anti-FED, and Pro-liberty activists with domestic terrorists. I would say I am a Civic Southern Nationalist. Love of the Confederacy (which I do) is mostly nostalgia. What ever the new state (even a reconfigured United States) that comes to represent the legitimate liberty aspirations and the Right to Self-Determination of the Southron People will not likely be a New Confederate States of America; even if it is a confederation. If a desire for national self-determination is racism then the UN Charter is a racist document.
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Originally posted by ConSigCor:

The Confederate on the other hand will not apologize and in fact will tell you that there is no such thing as the "Lost" Cause. He still hates the yankee government in Washington just as much if not more so than his ancestors did. And, he would be more than willing to "do it again" at the drop of a hat.
I guess I am sort of a "Confederate," then, since I am more than ready to do it again ;-)
Posted By: Cajunpatriot

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by ConSigCor:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red River Ranger:
[qb] The reason the SPLC hates them is because we honor the memory of our ancestors who had the guts to give the ferral government the finger 150 years ago. And, because we teach all who will listen why they did it and why we might need to do it again.
Deo Vindice!
Posted By: ParaSkS-DEACTIVATED

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 05:00 PM

Is the website supporting the march mentioned our website AWRM?
Posted By: The Greywolf

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by airforce:
The SPLC would put a box of Cheerios on the list of extremist groups if it would help them raise funds. Their credibility is right around zero.

Onward and upward,
airforce
Well honestly Airforce, Those damn Cheerios are all the same color and keep other cereals out of their box. frown

Unlike the our dear Captain Crunch with Crunch berries and who allow all different shades of cererals to co-mengle in the box. laugh


The SPLC has been using the Militia movement for 20 years to get funds, by misinformation and outright lies.

I would never expect anything less from them.

a proud member of the SVC, It's a social club?
Damn and I missed the dances. laugh

To the SPLC putting the SCV on your site is fine, your not from the south, so you wouldn't understand....
Posted By: airforce

Re: Mark Potok and SPLC Are At It Again - 03/03/2010 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Greywolf:
Well honestly Airforce, Those damn Cheerios are all the same color and keep other cereals out of their box. frown
You know, I never thought about it before, but that must be why I like Froot Loops better. laugh

Onward and upward,
airforce
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