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Wyoming Threatens Arrests for Federal Gun Grabbers
by AWR Hawkins 10 Jan 2013, 10:57 AM PDT
As details continue to emerge regarding gun control plans that President Barack Obama and the Democrats are pushing behind the scenes, Wyoming lawmakers have a message for the federal government: "Don't tread on us."
Local radio station KTWO reports that lawmakers in Wyoming have proposed a "Firearms Protection Act" that provides a state-level annulment of any ban against semi-automatics or magazines that hold 20 or 30 rounds or more.
If the measure passes, it would mean that anyone--even federal agents-who try to enforce a ban within the state borders could be charged with a felony.
Is this the wave of the future for "red" states concerned about Obama's strong anti-gun intentions?
It is too early to tell. But it is worth noting that Montana lawmakers began pushing for the same kind of legislation as soon as conservatives took control of that state's legislature in 2010.
"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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And if they are willing to arrest Feds and they actually do it will they also be willing to go a little further and Secede.
And one more thing how may other Red States Join Wyoming?
I hope that Arizona will be one of the States that joins since that is where I want to move to. Wyoming is just a little too cold and snowy for me. But maybe that will be the price of Freedom.
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Originally posted by Sniper_762X51: And if they are willing to arrest Feds and they actually do it will they also be willing to go a little further and Secede. There is a quasi-secession movement in Wyoming for anyone who is interested: Free State Wyoming .
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Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds
Alex Newman New American Jan 12, 2013
As the Obama administration plots various assaults on gun rights by “executive order” and legislation, proposals described as “very extreme” even by some Democrats, state lawmakers in Wyoming have another idea. Republican legislators are rallying behind nullification legislation that would void unconstitutional infringements on the right to keep and bear arms, even providing prison time for any federal agents who may try to enforce Washington, D.C., gun control in the state. Lawmakers expect it to pass.
The new bill, H.B. 0104 or the “Firearms Protection Act,” would nullify any new federal infringements on the constitutionally protected gun rights of state residents — who enjoy some of the lowest crime rates while being among the most heavily armed people in America. Unconstitutional federal gun registration schemes, as well as restrictions on semi-automatic guns or standard-capacity magazines, would also be nullified under the legislation.
There are teeth in the proposed law too: Any federal official attempting to enforce unconstitutional statutes or decrees infringing on gun rights passed after January 1 of this year would be charged with a felony. If convicted, criminal officials would be punished by up to five years in state prison and a $5,000 fine. The legislation also authorizes the state attorney general to defend citizens of Wyoming if federal authorities seek prosecutions under unconstitutional gun control rules.
At least eight state representatives and two state senators have already sponsored the legislation. And nationwide, support for similar measures is exploding. “We want to get things ahead of the game,” Republican state Rep. Kendell Kroeker, the primary sponsor of the bill, told the Huffington Post. “We take the Second Amendment seriously in Wyoming…. If the federal government is going to pass laws taking back our rights, it is our right as a state to defend those rights.”
Citing his oath to support and defend the U.S. and state constitutions, state Rep. Kroeker has been a leader in standing against lawless usurpations of power by the federal government. In a previous session, he introduced legislation to increase the use of gold as currency in the state, for example. “I take an oath to uphold, support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Wyoming,” Kroeker continued, telling reporters that his constituents and activists nationwide were thrilled by the move. “I believe it is my duty to take that oath seriously.”
In a separate interview with the Associated Press, the liberty-minded lawmaker noted that there are “a lot of people” who would seek to take all of Americans’ guns — at least if they could. The only thing restraining them, Kroeker said, is public opposition as well as other lawmakers who take their oaths seriously and are concerned about protecting the people’s unalienable rights.
“We’re a sovereign state with our own constitutional form of government,” he told the AP. “We’ve got a right to make our laws, and if the federal government is going to try to enforce unconstitutional laws on our people and take away the rights of Wyoming citizens, then we as a state are going to step up and make that a crime.”
In the state Senate, another co-sponsor of the legislation, Wyoming State Senator Larry Hicks, cited the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which reserves all powers not specifically granted to the federal government to the states or the people. The nullification bill, he added in an interview with the Washington Examiner, will send a message to federal politicians considering further infringements on the rights of his constituents.
“It says that your one size fits all solution doesn’t comport to what a vast majority of the state believes,” Sen. Hicks told the paper about the message federal politicians should be taking from the legislation, telling other reporters that state lawmakers were receiving e-mails in support of the bill from all across America and that citizens were urging their own states to take similar action. “I don’t think this is controversial in Wyoming at all…. I fully expect this bill to pass.”
According to the liberty-minded state senator, even if Congress refuses to budge, the administration is determined to restrict gun ownership by presidential decree. “I think that’s the biggest threat we’re facing,” he told the AP. Sen. Hicks also said that his constituents were “absolutely terrified” about threats from Washington to assault gun rights — especially Vice President Joe Biden’s pledge this week to implement the lawless attack by executive order.
“They are very, very upset that we’re going to see some level of federal takeover of our weapons and abuse of our rights given to us by the Second Amendment,” the state senator was quoted as saying, referring to his constituents. “Also, that the federal government will bypass our legislative officials and confiscate our weapons through executive order. This gives citizens of the Western United States a great deal of concern.”
The AP, in an uncharacteristically honest assessment, pointed out that Wyoming has one of the highest rates of per-capita gun ownership in America, and that it also has among the lowest levels of gun violence. “Part of it’s our culture,” Hicks explained. “Our kids grow up around firearms, and they also grow up hunting, and they know what the consequences are of taking a life. And they know at an early age, whether you hunt or fish, that there’s consequences from pulling that trigger. We’re not insulated from the real world in Wyoming.”
At least one Democrat, Rep. James Byrd, has already expressed his opposition to the plan. “If you want to pick a fight with the feds, let’s pick a fight with the feds that’s about something that means something,” he was quoted as saying by the AP while claiming to be a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment. It was not immediately clear why Byrd thought the unalienable right to keep and bear arms — enshrined in both the Wyoming and U.S. constitutions — was not meaningful.
Predictably, Obama apparatchiks funded by billionaire statist George Soros are already crying foul, too. The far-left “Think Progress” blog, for example, claimed that nullification would be unconstitutional. “The constitution actually stipulates that federal law ‘shall be the supreme law of the land,’” Annie-Rose Strasser alleged falsely, without pointing out the constitutional stipulation that federal laws must be “made in pursuance” with the Constitution. It was not clear whether the writer was simply ignorant of American history and the U.S. Constitution, or whether the false statements were deliberate lies in an effort to confuse readers.
Some analysts quoted in the establishment press, also presumably unfamiliar with history or the U.S. Constitution, have claimed that states may not nullify unconstitutional federal usurpations as well. Of course, American history is replete with examples of nullification — Wisconsin nullified a federal statute purporting to require the return of escaped slaves to their masters, for example. Even Founding Fathers like Thomas Jefferson helped states void unconstitutional legislation in the early years of the Republic.
More recently, states all across America have been putting their foot down. Even causes traditionally associated with liberals, such as marijuana legalization, have succeeded through nullification — Colorado and Washington state both legalized the controversial plant in November, and many other states have approved it for medical use in spite of unconstitutional federal statutes. Conservatives and libertarians have also been relying on nullification, especially in recent years.
As the increasingly out-of-control federal government tries to restrict more and more of Americans’ unalienable rights — with the Second Amendment just the latest target — state lawmakers all across the country are taking action. A bill just introduced in Indiana known as the Firearm Freedom Act, for instance, would also protect the rights of gun owners to be free from federal regulations if the gun was produced and purchased in the state. Similar legislation has already been adopted in other states.
Meanwhile, law-enforcement officials, such as sheriffs and police chiefs, are also developing legal strategies to protect gun rights in their jurisdictions, with some lobbying for nullification measures as well. As The New American reported this week, while the Obama administration seeks to severely infringe on the Second Amendment, talk of mass resistance nationwide is growing in tandem. The president may believe he can violate the Constitution by decree, but it appears that many states have had just about enough of the lawlessness. If Congress refuses to rein in the out-of-control administration, state governments may have to do it instead.
"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Now Texas threatens the same... By Jim Forsyth A Texas lawmaker says he plans to file the Firearms Protection Act, which would make any federal laws that may be passed by Congress or imposed by Presidential order which would ban or restrict ownership of semi-automatic firearms or limit the size of gun magazines illegal in the state, 1200 WOAI news reports. Republican Rep. Steve Toth says his measure also calls for felony criminal charges to be filed against any federal official who tries to enforce the rule in the state. "If a federal official comes into the state of Texas to enforce the federal executive order, that person is subject to criminal prosecution," Toth told 1200 WOAI's Joe Pags Tuesday. He says his bill would make attempting to enforce a federal gun ban in Texas punishable by a $50,000 fine and up to five years in prison. Toth says he will file his measure after speaking with the state's Republican Attorney General, Greg Abbott, who has already vowed to fight any federal measures which call for restrictions on weapons possession. Toth concedes that he would welcome a legal fight over his proposals. "At some point there needs to be a showdown between the states and the federal government over the Supremacy Clause," he said. The Supremacy Clause is the portion of the Constitution which declares that federal laws and statutes are 'the supreme law of the land.' "It is our responsibility to push back when those laws are infringed by King Obama," Toth said. Texas is the second state to propose a measure to shield the state from the impact of any gun possession restrictions imposed by Congress or by Presidential order. A similar measure was introduced in Wyoming last week. http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10700507
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Greywolf,
Tennessee has a similar bill up for consideration now. Hopefully we'll get it through.
"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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let us know if it passes..I see several Sheriff's have vowed not to enforce..
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Mississippi Governor Vows To Block Obama Gun OrdersPresidential decrees are “Overreaching and anti-constitutional violation of our rights as American citizens” Steve Watson Prisonplanet.com Jan 17, 2013 Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant vowed yesterday to block enforcement of any federal gun restrictions that infringe upon the Second Amendment, saying that lawmakers should draw up a bill to further protect the State’s rights. “I am asking that you immediately pass legislation that would make any unconstitutional order by the President illegal to enforce in Mississippi by state or local law enforcement,” Bryant wrote in a letter to his Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves and state House Speaker Philip Gunn. Bryant noted that he has no qualms with background checks and existing gun laws that ensure people do not illegally acquire firearms, but said he will not tolerate moves to place restrictions on law abiding gun owners, adding that criminals will not be deterred by such laws. “If someone kicks open my door and they’re entering my home, I’d like as many bullets as I could to protect my children, and if I only have three, then the ability for me to protect my family is greatly diminished,” Bryant said. “And what we’re doing now is saying, ‘We’re standing against the federal government taking away our civil liberties.’” In a press conference immediately following Obama’s address to the nation, Bryant and Gunn noted that because Mississippi is a rural state, it can take law enforcement officers up to 20 minutes to reach some homes in an emergency, and that people’s right to defend themselves should not be infringed upon. “When it’s for self protection, you need as much firepower as needed to protect your family,” Bryant said, describing the federal executive orders announced by the president yesterday as an “overreaching and anti-constitutional violation of our rights as American citizens.” During the conference, State Rep. Chris Brown told reporters and those gathered that he is drafting legislation that will declare firearms manufactured in Mississippi fall under state law and cannot be subjected to federal regulations. In addition to Mississippi, several other states have introduced similar measures in an attempt to stifle the executive orders. Tennessee Republican state Rep. Joe Carr has declared that he will attempt to make it illegal for federal authorities to impose any kind of a ban on guns or ammunition. Carr is sponsoring legislation that would charge federal agents with a Class A misdemeanor for attempting to enforce such actions. “We’re tired of political antics, cheap props of using children as bait to gin up emotional attachment for an issue that quite honestly doesn’t solve the problem,” Carr said. Similar legislative moves to pre-empt the federal gun restrictions have also been proposed in Wyoming, Utah and Alaska. The 23 executive orders Obama announced yesterday apply only to the federal government, not local or state law enforcement. Without action by the House, it is therefore unlawful to enforce the decrees on sheriffs and other law enforcement departments across the nation. Watch the videos here... http://bcove.me/70rzub8h http://bcove.me/i8o8i1l3
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Resistance is building: Texas, Missouri Join Other States Looking To Block Gun Bans. And another approach: South Carolina bill would exempt state militia from federal gun rules. Also, at the County level: First in the Nation: Beaufort County, NC Adopts Federal Gun Laws Nullification Resolution
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Gun range prohibits police after city considers ban Joel Banner Baird, The Burlington (Vt.) Free Press11:11a.m. EST January 17, 2013
BURLINGTON, Vt. -- A rural Vermont firing range has told the police department in Burlington that its officers are unwelcome to train at the facility because the City Council has advanced a measure to ban semi-automatic rifles and large-capacity magazines in the state's largest city.
The City Council's action earlier this month threatens constitutional freedoms, Robert Boivin II, board chairman of the Lamoille Valley Fish and Game Club Inc., wrote in a letter to police department, city and state leaders terminating use of the gun range by Burlington police.
The firing range is in Morrisville, about 50 miles northeast of Burlington. The city of 42,000 residents has a police force of just less than 100 officers.
The club's executive board "can no longer support the City of Burlington with such a prejudice against our club and its members, and has voted to suspend the City's use of our range for its law enforcement. This action is effective immediately," Boivin wrote in the letter, dated Tuesday. It was provided Wednesday to The Burlington Free Press.
"We hope that the council reconsiders its actions and redirects its efforts towards perpetrators of violent crimes and security issues," Boivin wrote.
The city's exclusion from the range likely would affect how and when officers train with firearms, Burlington Police Chief Michael Schirling told the Free Press on Wednesday night.
"Training facilities are limited in the area," Schirling said. "It's unfortunate that a polarized discussion of this nature has this kind of impact."
The City Council voted 10-3 earlier this month to direct its Charter Change Committee to craft a ban on assault-type firearms and large-capacity magazines. The meeting was marked by a high turnout by the public, virtually all of whom were opposed to such a ban.
Council President Joan Shannon, a Democrat, has said the measure would reach voters no earlier than March 2014 — and, if approved, would next require the OK of the Vermont Legislature before becoming law. The measure's supporters say the ban is necessary in lieu of meaningful state and national regulations restricting access to such weapons. Opponents say the ban would do little to prevent violence and treads on the rights of law-abiding gun owners.
Messages left for Shannon and Burlington Mayor Miro Weinberger were not immediately returned Wednesday evening.
"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Nothing else needs to be said.................. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAFjBSPUQJk
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Sweet!!! I'm done talking!!!
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