Re: North Korea 
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 04/08/2013 11:00 AM
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To add to Safetalker's comments,
  The Japanese also ran biological warfare experimental centers in China before and during WWII. There are high rates of some very rare diseases to this day because of it. They killed a high percentage of captured Americans in the death march in the Philipines.  One estimate suggested that 1/20 (5%) of the filipino population was killed by the Japanese during WWII.  The Japanese believed that their Emperor was decended from a sea god and they lived by a warrior code for centuries where the Emperor's word was final.    
  On the other end of the spectrum, we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki and left them with long term radiation to end WWII. We fire bombed Tokyo to the ground. We killed so many pilots that they resorted to kamakazi tactics with untrained pilots in an attempt to respond.  We incarcerated 113,000 Japanese US-immigants and their US citizen families in the US and wiped out the finances of many of the rest. We removed their ability to rebuild a military and have had a strong military presence in Japan for nearly 70 years. 1000 Japanese were put to death for war crimes and 4400 others were incarcerated.
  China, Korea and the Philipines may still have hatred, but the Japanese have been "tamed" for lack of a better word. They have high rates of suicide, their economy has drifted for 25 years, and they keep trying to use Keynesian economic theory to stimulate their economy which is the same as bludgeoning them economically.  
  Launching a Nuke on Japan now would only END WWIII badly for everyone. 
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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I do not intend to make light of the situation.
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  When I completed my university thesis work on nuclear weapons, I referenced an unclassified CIA study completed in the 1970s which listed the top three nuclear threat.
  Ready for the list? This may look familiar.
  Iran
  North Korea
  Pakistan
  Again, not making light, but within the context of needing a Bogey-Man, the .mil complex truly regrets waxing Bin Laden and Saddam. They got a lot of good mileage out of those guys (ghosts).
  IMO, Kim Jung Un is the new Bogey-Man; the new "Michael Jackson Distraction" in the MSM spotlight to keep us from focusing on the fiat money economic implosion.
  Yes, there will be war, including mortal combat, but in terms of progress, economic warfare is obviously waging in earnest, with far less collateral damage, and mortal combat will only increase as the result of sheer desperation on the part of the .gov perpetrators.
  FEAR mongering is intended for the Sheople masses; not for We the People.
  Keep your chins up! 
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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TPTB want a new conflict to distract the masses from paying attention to the ongoing economic collapse.  Plus a war gives them an excuse to implement more tyranny at home, all in the guise of homeland security. Stewart Rhodes and Brandon Smith on N.Korea, the Economy,   http://youtu.be/4wNU3IKe3S0 
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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Dick Cheney says the U.S. is in "deep doo-doo" on North Korea.   And he should know about such things.  ...Southerland, summarizing the former vice president’s remarks, said Cheney advised not to “eliminate any possibility.”  
  “Here's a young guy we don't know very much about – have very little intel on him, so we just need to make sure that we don't assume why he's doing what he's doing because he could be doing what he's doing for any number of reasons,” Southerland recalled Cheney saying.... And defense Secretary Hagel says North Korea is   "approaching a dangerous line,"  whatever that means. Onward and upward, airforce  
 
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Re: North Korea 
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The journalist is smoking something.  What a bunch of blather. Roosevelt died of a stroke. He was older, sickly and smoked which tends to line with stroke.  A tsunami hit Japan after an earthquake causing the nuclear plant meltdown.  
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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Originally posted by ConSigCor:  TPTB want a new conflict to distract the masses from paying attention to the ongoing economic collapse.  Plus a war gives them an excuse to implement more tyranny at home, all in the guise of homeland security.
  Stewart Rhodes and Brandon Smith on N.Korea, the Economy,    http://youtu.be/4wNU3IKe3S0  What CSC said.....  
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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Pre-emptive strike = attacking a nation unprovoked
  A draft = slavery
  Remember that. A draft might be the final straw for some. 
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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I had to same thoughts.  A draft would draw many potential patriots.  While deployed, gut the country of its rights and finish off the resistance.  When they come home, if they come home would find it to be a different place. 
  Just a thought anyway. 
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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Cute little game, this.  And I'm not sure who is playing it better, the US or N. Korea.  But, it is most certainly a game.  This is not true conflict, and won't be.   Any trained military strategist knows this is just a game.
  WHAT can North Korea expect to accomplish by bombing Tokyo ?  Will the Japanese surrender, and ask North Korea to become it's new mommy ?
  If the North Koreans somehow were to get a missile all the way to Guam, what would that accomplish ? It would be like swatting a hornet's nest in mid-day.
  And, what could be accomplished by an invasion of South Korea ?  The starving North Korean troops would soon come to a grinding halt with a complete armada of western ships ringing the country so that NO re-supply could ever reach the north country.
  North Korea is playing a nice game, and it is helping the Obama administration look tough (in some eyes, if that is possible).  
  We will end up "averting a massive, long-term war in which tens of thousands of US soldiers might have been killed, and the US economy further damaged."  How ?  By giving the the enemy what they wanted to begin with...as we usually do.  Supplies and money and status.
  One additional gameplay is that we will cooperate with our new "dear ally, China," giving them our military information (so we won't "accidentally" shoot at each other).  This will be helpful later when the communist government in the United States agrees to surrender to the more experienced and helpful Chinese Communists.
  It's all a game. 
 
  
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Re: North Korea 
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A dangerous game, wouldn't you rather play a nice game of chess?
  A distraction for the media look what is going on in the back ground while the media watches this..
  Or a Chance to drag the people into another war, while the Dictator Obama strengthens is grasp on us here. 
 
  
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