Re: Sources of Intell
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12/08/2006 12:21 PM
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frankly, I don't seem many of the listed sources as being credible. If you want to put your marbles on the line based on info from one of the whack job conspiracy sources, be my guest.
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Re: Sources of Intell
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12/08/2006 01:13 PM
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Mannlicher; Please continue!
Since your statements portray you as a KNOWLEGABLE individual, who KNOWS where the best "INTEL" can be gotten, please enlighten us.
And, also, while you're at that task; why don't you FULLY explain who & what you are calling "...whack job conspiracy sources..."[after all, that intimates that you are NOT one], and you use such erodite laungage that it impels me to BEG YOU to reveal your knowlege about these "...whack job consiracy sites...", so that I can avoid being misled & bambuzzeled by such.
THANKS! It'll be SUCH A BLESSING to be enlightened & sent down the "straight & narrow" road of INTEL gathering.
BTW, (just in case you MIGHT sorta think that I'm be less than serious)....I'm SERIOUS! I'm DROP DEAD SERIOUS.
"KNOW THY ENEMY"..."He who fails to learn from History, is doomed to repeat it's errors"..."For we wrestle not against flesh & blood..."..."Quitters NEVER win, & winners NEVER quit!"
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Re: Sources of Intell
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12/09/2006 05:07 AM
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I do a lot of OPEN SOURCE Intel. You glean through EVERYTHING and make judgements about it's accuracy later.
I do find a disturbing trend though, anything with Alex Jone's DNA on it (prison planet, infowars) is usually made up of whole cloth, but by all means listen and act on this media whores rantings. Your memory must be fairly short if you don't remember that it was Alex Jones who pushed the Y2K farce. Not to mention several other tin-hat theories.
On the other side, I find World Net Daily, News Max, Stratfor and a few others listed in ConSigCor 's list to be the most accurate.
You won't find a single source with a blockbuster revelation. When working with OSINTEL, it is the aggregate of information that shows a trend.
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"Three is good, four would be better, but three is good" Mel Gibson in the Patriot.
"Now if I can find two more, I'd be good". Swabjocky
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Re: Sources of Intell
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01/25/2007 09:24 AM
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www.survivalblog.com is James Wesley Rawles site...quite good. His links are very good also. I USED to check www.DEBKAFILE.com on a regular basis, but apparently it's been changed...can't seem to access it these days...
"KNOW THY ENEMY"..."He who fails to learn from History, is doomed to repeat it's errors"..."For we wrestle not against flesh & blood..."..."Quitters NEVER win, & winners NEVER quit!"
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Re: Sources of Intell
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01/26/2007 04:39 AM
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DICK WOLF; Glad they help!
I'm not sure what you're driving at with your: "...If you want to put your marbles on the line based on info from one of the whack job conspiracy sourses...", but here's my "TAKE" on gathering INTEL:
The MORE SOURCES you acquire, and the BROADER the spectrum of opinions & angles of view,(perspectives), the MORE chance you have of GLEANING a fair picture of the REALITY.
For me, "WHACK JOB CONSPIRACY SITES" are those that publish either TOTALLY UNCONFIRMABLE[such as "FEMA CONSENTRATION CAMPS ALL OVER...10 Yrs. ago] "INTEL", (usualy can be confirmed that the "story" originated at a poker game, from a "friend"), OR they publish rather emotionally imballanced tirades against "precieved"{USUALLY you're expected to 'understand' whose being accused} "enemies" & accusatory pieces that border on, (or cross over into) racism, ethnic preferences, or Religious bigotry.
BUT! Just because a "Site" is rather "sensationalist" in it's presentation, doesn't rate it "whacko"...(Alex Jones & Tex Marrs for instance).
I ALWAYS JUDGE ON QUALITY, & CONFIRMABILITY. And, I ALWAYS WORK ON THE BASIS OF: "supported" or "multiple source agreement" criteria, before I accept an Article or a Site as LEGITIMATE INTEL.
Until I can CONFIRM & find MULTIPLE SOURCES that AGREE, with a site's declaration, I consider the site, but I place NO TRUST in it's material, & RARELY quote it. (The FEMA "Consentration Camps EVERYWHERE" was one of my most frustrating examples of an Article {in this case, several} that just didn't have confirmed evidence for a LONG TIME...especially the "...white trains with mancles..." report. It drove me NUTS! And, to a degree, STILL DOES, as the "proof photos" that I HAVE SEEN, are NOT conclusive, but SUGGESTIVE.} So, I don't mention those "CAMPS" much, or often.
BUT! Even groups like the "FREEMEN", (tho CLEARLY BIASED & [to my way of thinking], imbalanced, I NONE THE LESS, listened & learned what I could.
It's paid dividends over the years. And, (in their case), it taught me that this Nation is NO WHERE NEAR "FREE"...and, therefore, I learned what happens to "FREEMEN", when they declare that they ARE "free"!
A little "WISDOM" in dealing with the BEAST is helpfull. "Wise as serpents, & harmless as doves"...?
"KNOW THY ENEMY"..."He who fails to learn from History, is doomed to repeat it's errors"..."For we wrestle not against flesh & blood..."..."Quitters NEVER win, & winners NEVER quit!"
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Re: Sources of Intell
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02/21/2007 08:58 AM
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I ocassionally listen to Alex Jones, mostly for pure intertainment value, and I make sure to take everything he says with a giant grain of salt.
"Guard well the words you use, for they can be the keys to your freedom or the manacles of your slavery." - me
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Re: Sources of Intell
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03/14/2007 09:01 AM
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I watch the Military Channel alot, and for the most part our soldiers (Whom I have total respect and gratitude) feel that they are doing the right thing. What amazed me was there were also some that, before he was out....wanted Rumsfield's resignation and was very critical of the whole ordeal (at that time the war was "over" and the peace keeping was in place). The amazing part was that they didn't edit it. Also I listen to shortwave radio for different views, though I'm sure many others on the forum do as well.
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Re: Sources of Intell
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06/24/2007 07:02 AM
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Cloakanddagger.de with Lenny Bloom and Eric Phelps have dis-associated themselves and reputiated as dis-info agents, Tom Henegan and Stew Webb, as well as Al Gore. (Alex Jones implied this previously) Here are thier two new audio briefings. The China Threat (Courtesy Of CFR via Clinton & Gore): http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/BACK BREAKING NEWS/Cloak backstage june 22.mp3 The Pre-Planned Implosion Of The Economy: http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/_PHELPS/phelps_1 jun19.mp3
War battered dogs are we Fighters in every clime; Fillers of trench and of grave, Mockers bemocked by time, War dogs hungry and grey, Gnawing a naked bone, Fighters in every clime- Every cause but our own -Emily Lawless"With the Wild Geese"
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Re: Sources of Intell
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10/18/2008 08:21 AM
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If Y2K was such a wack job than why did so many people and companies spend billions or more to fix it? Alex should be listened to with a ndiscerning ear, but sensationalism does get more people to listen up...I do trust him more than I do your government tho....
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Re: Sources of Intell
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05/02/2009 09:15 PM
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free radical I agree with you again as far as obtainin intel nothing better than human intel getting the photographs the video footage ect and verifying it.
I have done that it works I had gotten tired of there is a camp here and there and everywhere so one day my friend and I took a plane trip we had reports the Chinese were coming into Long Beach everyday citizens reporting a base in Long Beach with chinese soldier who like to fire at citzens if they got to close we flew over the entire region Saw not one chink soldier was seen
ON the other hand I did verify an actual presence of fema holding area with photographs and a salute report signed by two people
The camp this was 10 years ago needs to be confirmed that it is still there it was located off the main hwy 15 Hwy 15 out side of Vegas North of the city just across the street from Nellis AFB, If someone is in that area would you confirm that it is still there ? please grab photos also at that time it was complete with Machine gun tower barbed wire sliding gate on wheel both ends along side a set of train tracks also had a sign property of the US Army the actual information was obtained way back in 1996 we have not verified its existence since that period long over due for reverification
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Re: Sources of Intell
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05/08/2009 02:41 AM
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No More Free Wacos Well I think we can know accept Alex Jones as at least well intentioned and effective inreaching a large audience. Take a look at one of today's top promoted stories from one of our own. Kudos to both Mike and Alex. Mike Vanderboegh Sipsey Street Irregulars May 7, 2009 http://www.infowars.com/no-more-free-wacos/ AJ has also had Mark Koernke as a guest on his show before. I have been on as a caller countless times and have always been able to get on the air without having my questions screened and have been able to promote the militia and been well recieved.
War battered dogs are we Fighters in every clime; Fillers of trench and of grave, Mockers bemocked by time, War dogs hungry and grey, Gnawing a naked bone, Fighters in every clime- Every cause but our own -Emily Lawless"With the Wild Geese"
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Re: Sources of Intell
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07/27/2009 09:52 AM
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Y2K was an eye opener and a close call.
If you think Y2K was a farce, then the hard work of many people paid off. Although Y2K wasn't an impact on the infrastructure or industrial level, there was a "bump" months later in PC application and driver software that was barely felt.
I was working in IT in 1997-1998.
Halcitron(M7-OXX) M Co 59th Bn CA 9th Unorganized Militia of California First Fullerton Militia Check your six -- DUCK!
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