From The Times
April 17, 2010

Domestic terrorists as big a threat as al-Qaeda, says FBI head Robert Mueller

Giles Whittell, Washington



Fifteen years after the Oklahoma City bombing, the spectre of domestic terrorism has returned to haunt the Obama Administration, with a warning from the FBI that “home-grown and lone-wolf extremists” now represent as serious a threat as al-Qaeda and its affiliates.

The warning, from the FBI Director, Robert Mueller, came as the former President Clinton drew parallels between the Oklahoma City tragedy and a recent upsurge in anti-government rhetoric, while American television audiences heard Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, describe the “absolute rage” that drove him to plan an attack that killed 168 men, women and children.

An FBI spokesman told The Times yesterday that Mr Mueller was referring to right-wing extremist groups and anti-government militias, as well as American Islamists, in his testimony to the Senate committee that must approve the FBI’s $8.3 billion (£5.4 billion) budget.

Last month federal agents arrested nine members of a Christian militia based in Michigan, calling itself the Hutaree. They have been charged with plotting to murder local police with a stash of guns, knives and grenades.

Since the passage of President Obama’s health reforms, the FBI has also made arrests in Seattle and San Francisco after death threats were sent to Democratic senators.

“It’s one thing to express dissatisfaction with the Government but once you cross the line with a violent threat, that’s a violation that we take extremely seriously,” Bill Carter, the bureau’s spokesman, said.

The Oklahoma bombing was followed by an exhaustive civilian trial in which McVeigh became a hate figure to most but a hero to some members of the survivalist fringe on which he was radicalised.

He was executed in 2001, but not before granting 45 hours of death-row interviews to the authors of a book, American Terrorist, whose tapes will be broadcast for the first time on Monday. McVeigh never confessed to the bombing in court but he appears to do so on the tapes.

“I feel no shame for it,” he says. “This was something that I saw as a larger good, and I know that, as I analysed the history of not just the US, but all nations throughout the history of mankind. People have killed for what they believed was the greater good, and it’s accepted. Sometimes killing is accepted.”

The White House was careful to emphasize that the threat of external terrorism remained acute but senior officials are privately confident that military operations in Afghanistan are going well and putting al-Qaeda on the back foot. Few people in Washington are as confident about the domestic threat.

Well, there you go: we're a threat because of McVeigh, whose arrest just screamed patsy. I mean, going 100mph in a vehicle with NO PLATES carrying a 9mm Glock with the then much-hyped Black Talon bullets everyone was afraid of... and surrenders to some state trooper after allegedly blowing up the Murrah Buiding?

Didn't McVeigh during his trial refuse to answer questions due to national security?

Why are these so-called confession tapes only cropping up NOW?

Well enough of that McVeigh was the 90's Osama Bin Ladin I suppose. The enemy has a full palette of smears to use; the Hutaree, McVeigh, David Koresh, KKK and other racists....

No winning the propaganda war on the national level unless and until a militia does something on the local level and advertises it nationwide that shows they are by, of and for the people.

Only one thing comes to mind that would do that properly and that is select a local government run by some corrupt Boss Hogg types and clean them out through a emergency recall election, and institute reforms that can illustrate what we've been talking about, and how enslaved Americans really are.

Muellar is a hypocritical son of a bitch talking about what Timithy McVeigh did. After all it was the FBI who shot a 14 year old child in the back as he was running away, it was one of their snipers who murdered a woman in cold blood while she held the door open for her husband and it was the FBI who had no problems burning innocent women and children to death in a church.

The FBI could care less when they murder innocent women and children so why should the American people care about what happens to any of them.

Yeah, this is about what they are:



Oh CSC, I need to get a hold with you about July4Patriot but your box is full, can you PM me?

Were's the proof, no hersay from government lacky's
We know you are looking at what is posted/ printed on this board so where is your proof?