Eagle
I've read and thought, thought and read. Being a VET (leg, INF) and knowing what I know a person of whom I have respect that has just recently posted something that addresses the concerns I have read here about 'initialization', 'The willingness to Kill' and most importantly THE RULES OF WAR!
so your a vet and you know what you know and you respect this man.
Well as I see it you don't know very much at all.
In war there is no award for Miss Congeniality or an award for good sportsmanship, and there absolutely is NO Second Place Winner.
If you lose you not only may die but your loved ones may also suffer for being on the losing side of the war.
If you have any children they may end up being taken to a reeducation camp and turned into Good Government JBTs and when the time comes for people to receive the Mark of the Beast, your precious children may be among the first in line to accept the mark that will cost them their Souls. The Patriots cowardice will not only cause us to lose the war but will also cost the Patriots the Souls of their children. You may think differently but as for me that is way too great a price to pay just maintain the Moral High Ground.
I read the entire sickening blog post that you reposted here of this person who goes by the screen name of Mosby, and as I see it he is full of Bull Crap, and if too many Patriots and wannabe Freedom Fighters think as he does then the probability of our winning the coming Civil War or Revolution will not be very good.
If we end up losing the war it will in large part be due to people who think as this Mosby person does and apparently you also do.
Lets analyze what he believes.
There is an old cliche that there are no rules in a war. That is, to put it as mildly as I am capable, utter nonsense. Every war, from Cain and Abel's sibling rivalry, until today, has been moderated by rules. Too often, throughout history, of course, there have been acts committed that, anyone but Satan himself would agree were crimes against humanity. Even our own nation's military has committed these. The legal crutch of precedence however, does not justify these acts, for they are unjustifiable. It certainly does not justify future actions of immorality by any so-called Liberty Resistance Movement, whose sole claim to legitimacy can be said to be the moral high ground.
It is not the no rules in war that is utter nonsense it is his opinion that there are rules in war that is total nonsense and bull shit.
The only Rule of War is to Win the War, how the war is won is immaterial.
from Cain and Abel's sibling rivalryWhat was he smoking or what pill was he taking when he thought up that pile of crap.
Cain killing Able was not a war or had anything to do with any war it was simply Murder and was in fact the first Murder.
So anyone with an IQ above that of an Amoeba or at least any Christian or anyone who knows the story of Cain and Able, has to wonder how ignorant and stupid this jerk who goes by John Mosby is.
Mosby also apparently has never read the Bible.
There are seven basic legal principles that are supposed to bind any and all actions by contemporary U.S. military forces.
When has the Militia or Freedom Fighters been considered
contemporary U.S. military forces.Mr. Mosby seriously has a few mental health problems.
Observances of fundamental human rights will recognize the dignity and worth of the individual and the fundamental freedom of all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion. Human rights violations will not be tolerated. As with violations of the law of war, U.S. Soldiers will report human rights violations when they become aware of them.
Civilians shall be treated humanely and may not be used to shield military operations.
I think a patten is beginning to form.
Mosby seem to be unable to differentiate between
the Military and the Militia. and he is ignorant of the fact that the Militia is composed of Civilians and any Rules that the US Military needs to obey does not need to be followed by the Civilian Militia or Freedom Fighters.
EPWs (Enemy Prisoners of War) and civilian detainees will be treated humanely and IAW (In Accordance With) the provisions of the Geneva Conventions.
U.S. Soldiers are entitled to similar humane treatment should they fall into the enemy's hands.
Orders to commit war crimes are illegal and must be disobeyed.
Soldiers who violate the law of war will be held responsible for their actions. Superiors who order violations of the law of war are criminally and personally responsible for such orders, as are subordinates who carry out the orders.
Weapons, munitions, and techniques calculated to cause unnecessary pain and suffering are forbidden.
Again he seems not to be able to differentiate between the US Military and the Civilian Militia.
And also since the Militia (Freedom Fighters) is not a signatory to the Geneva Convention it is not binding on the Militia. Also Freedom Fighters are not protected under the provisions of the Geneva Convention it is only the Regular Military forces that are protected.
Sherman's March to the Sea:
A war crime, writ large, by any sane man's definitions. Sherman's men burned civilian homes, slaughtered livestock, and left an entire region of their non-combatant countrymen destitute and exposed to the elements and ravages of winter. Any "southron" knows the stories by heart, because they're still engraved, deeply, by the points of bayonets, on the soul of the South.
That was done to deprive the enemy of Food, Clothing and the resourses that was needed by the South to Purchase Weapons and other needed supplies from Foreign Nations. Even though it was not a nice thing to do it was justifiable.
What was not justifiable was what the North did to the South after Lees Surrender. The firebombings of Dresden, atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, et al:
A war crime, albeit considered justified at the time, due to the limits of technology, and the fact that the actual targets were war-time industrial facilities. Nevertheless, any planner with sense should have anticipated the loss of civilian life that would occur. Any leader should have considered that and cancelled the operations. Would it have led to a harder fight, and more GIs lost in combat? Yes. Would it have lengthened the war, and required a larger expenditure of Allied human capital? Yes. Would it have been the more moral course of action? Yes. I would even argue that it would have been less costly in the long view of history, because the collective guilt we as a culture have felt since, led to 60+ years of propping up the defenses and economies of both Germany and Japan.
Mosby once again has showed himself to be an ignorant stupid person, and worse yet a hater of the United States.
No real American Patriot would ever call what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki War Crimes , now as to Dresden, that was unnecessary and I believe it should not have been done.
He is also ignorant of the facts that Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were
not industrial facilities. The causalties were mostly Civilian and we knew that they would be Civilian before they were bombed.
Nevertheless, any planner with sense should have anticipated the loss of civilian life that would occur. Any leader should have considered that and cancelled the operations. Would it have led to a harder fight, and more GIs lost in combat? Yes. Would it have lengthened the war, and required a larger expenditure of Allied human capital? Yes. Would it have been the more moral course of action? Yes. I would even argue that it would have been less costly in the long view of history, because the collective guilt we as a culture have felt since, led to 60+ years of propping up the defenses and economies of both Germany and Japan.
This man is a total Retard and worse a Traitor.
What he has just stated is enough for me to believe that there is a good chance that he is on the side of the enemy and wants us to lose the War.
Any American especially a Soldier who is willing to needlessly sacrifice the lives of American Soldiers just to avoid killing some of the Enemy is a Traitor and should striped of his Citizenship or executed.
And he has proven once more that he is an ignorant A-hole since he does not know that if it were not for our bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki it would not have just been a large number of American Soldiers who would have needlessly died it would also have been a very large number of Japanese Civilians maybe even more then One Million 1,000,000 who would have died defending Japan.
Or maybe he knows the truth but he didn't post it because he has an agenda and it is not a Pro Freedom Agenda.
So the Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not only saved American Soldiers but saved maybe more then a Million Japanese Civilians.
And I don't have any guilt about the Atomic Bombing of Japan neither do any of my friends and how many members of this board feel any guilt about it or know anyone who does.
If, on the other hand, the "good guys" are murdering mothers and children, because "they support their stormtrooper dad/husband," people will notice that too, and it will rob the resistance of their moral high ground in the eyes of the public.
Moral High Ground is way overrated. Also a lot of people understand retribution and the do unto others attitude.
Killing family members does NOT "demoralize" the fighters. It pisses them off, and makes them want retribution.
Well yes and no. It pisses off the ones who have had their family killed but also and this is very very very important, it makes at least some of the other Stormtroopers who still have their families alive and well, concerned for their lives. Also one very very important consideration as to the Families of the Stormtroopers is the influence their families especially their wifes would have on them.
This happened during the First American Revolution where some Patriot Militia returned home to protect their families.
This was shown in the Movie the “Patriot”.
Think about this.
You are a JBT and Freedom Fighters are targeting Families of JBT who kill Patriot Families and your wife tells, you that you don't have any right to endanger
Her Children, it always seems to be Her Children during an argument, and she wants you to stop killing Patriots and if you leave today to kill any more of them she will take the Children and go home to her Mother where she hopes her children will be safe and she will have you served with divorce papers.
She gives you a choice between your job and her and the children what would you do, tell her your badge is more important then her and your children or would you agree to quit being a JBT for her sake??
Look at our experiences in Afghanistan and Iraq, for just the most recent examples. We inadvertently drop a JDAM on a village, and suddenly enemy recruitment numbers go through the roof. We piss on some holy books and every Mohammned, Salah, and Osama in the Islamist world is trekking across the mountains to strap Semtex to his chest and strike a blow against the infidel.
Attempting to compare what some Muslim Nut Case does to what some Americans would do is Retarded.
It's not just a Muslim thing, folks. I'm a pretty laid back, chill kind of guy in day-to-day life. I walk away from fights every chance I get. Fuck with my wife or kid though, and it'll take a god-damn Abrams running me over to stop me from gouging your eyes out and skull-fucking you to death.
So now we know what he would do if someone messed with his wife or kid what I want to know, and if he was a member of this board I would ask him is what would he do to protect and keep his family from being messed with?
If he was a SWAT Cop would he be willing to give up being a SWAT cop to keep his wife and child safe??
That is the question that needs to be asked not the stupid question of what would a man do
if his family was killed. Would he get payback or would he go in a conner and cry. Any real man would get payback big time. And we all should understand that.
What makes you think the local stormtrooper is any different? The fact that he doesn't recognize what he's doing is immoral and illegal, or doesn't care, doesn't mean he doesn't love his wife and kids.
And wouldn't he if he really loved his wife and kids do anything to keep them safe even if it meant that he had to stop being a stormtrooper.
It's immoral to target non-combatants. There is no belief system I know of, anywhere in the world (even orthodox Islam) whose religious doctrinal texts says it's okay to murder people. Targeting non-combatants is murder.
If I remember correctly didn't God tell the Hebrews to kill everyone even women, children and livestock?
1 Samuel 15:1
¶Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
1 Samuel 15:2
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.So does this mean that Mosby considers God to be a Murderer? Or is it just that Mosby is too ignorant and stupid to know that God has not always been the turn the other cheek type of God.
Or again maybe he knows the truth but he didn't post it because of his anti-freedom agenda.
I'm not going to make this into some long-drawn out lecture article. The men I know who have experienced war and violence outside of the movie screen, don't feel the need to shed blood needlessly. Our hands have enough blood on them. I don't have nightmares about the men I've killed, and I'll not hesitate to kill again if necessary. I'll even run to the sound of the guns to protect my family, friends, and community. I will not go looking for the fight though, and I will never condone, nor even entertain the notion, of killing innocents. In my experience, that is best relegated to the would-be tough guys who haven't experienced the reality of watching someone bleed out in the dirt, wondering why they drew the short straw that day. We all have a personal moral code we have to adhere to. Mine doesn't condone murder. Mine demands protection of the innocent, even when I despise someone they love. I'd rather "throw my life away" for a moral stand, protecting some douchebag's wife or kids, than live to be 110. At least my children will know I lived and died my beliefs, and stood up for morality.
Yes and maybe his children will curse him for being too much of a coward to do what was needed because of his F-ing Morality, to save them from slavery. Or maybe they will be reeducated and will became JBTs themselves and eventually they will accept the Mark of the Beast and his cowardice will have cost his Children their Souls.
