I find it really ironic. They all seem to agree that the proposed gun laws or those passed in New York are wrong. However, when bsd13 keeps trying to get a response to the real question that everyone knows is the heart of the matter, all sidestep it. I can't tell if they're afraid of what their fellow ociffers will think of them or if they can't bring themselves to publicly admit that they're redcoats and/or cowards. They keep talking around the real issue, which is what each of them personally will do.

And then there are comments like this one from tanksoldier: "Just because our forefathers stood their ground in Lexington when the government tried (lawfully) to seize their arms, doesn't mean anybody now will do the same... or maybe they will. ... At the time, shooting at Redcoats was treason. Signing the Declaration of Independence was treason. Today we venerate those who did so as heroes. It all depends on how history plays out." {Excuse me, but what about your flippin' role in how that history plays out?}

And there's this one from Starfleet Officer: "Civil disobedience is great when that happens. Until then, it's just breaking the law. If in the course of that visit you shoot a cop, it's no longer civil disobedience; it's just shooting a cop. This is why we have the Supreme Court.

WTH???

And this guy, Rudy8116, seems to understand at least some of it, but avoids addressing his own complicity (or refusal to comply) in what he calls "an ever increasing oppressive government": "This is becoming more and more a spitting image of the Civil War and the Revolutionary War each day. Parts of it are the citizens standing up to an ever increasing oppresive government in the manner of the Revolutionary War. And state, county, and local officials are standing up for States' Rights which are the result of the Civil War, and a large part of what led to the Civil War."