Originally posted by Asher:
Sniper,
I largely agree with on the illegal issue since illegal is the operative word. However we have people risking their lives to come here and have millions who are wasting their lives using up welfare and food stamps. Just as were the operative words on the statue of liberty is yernkng to be free. Freedom comes with a price responsibility, and hate to break it to you brother but this ain't your country its our country.
We have three problems coming out of Mexico and Jose hopping the fence ain't one of them.
1. Hezbollah terror cells have a foot hold in Brazil and Columbia unlike Al-CIA-da they aren't CIA puppets. They have very real links to Cartels in South America and Mexico.
2. We have ignored the 3rd World police state communist government of Mexico to the point that like many people did during WW2 and in Rowanda people are escaping a war zone. Personally if/when civil war breaks out here I don't want my family treated like prisoners for fleeing a war zone. When we wanted to spread democracy for oil we ignored Mexico because US oil companies and manufacturers were already there.
3. We've created a perfect storm with the other two issues and quite frankly seeing as my grandfather made and sold moonshine during the depression to feed his family and keep the house. An act that while illegal was also done with his family in mind, he didn't steal or kill for money, I really can't blame someone for trying to make their life better.
My issue is why is it we have millions risking their lives to cross a border to work for minimum wage but we keep spending money supporting spoiled little baby machines. With Mexico nearly in a civil war with narco terrorist cartels our southern border and our security are deeply threatened.
I deliberately used MY COUNTRY, because it is my county and it is not their country which is what a lot of them seem to think. I did not use it to mean that this is My Country all to myself. Between you and I my friend it is OUR COUNTRY, but the illegals are not included in “our”
I am not about to change my way of thinking as to the Mex scum. They only ones who belong here are the ones who were here at the time of Texas independence and others who have been here for a few generations. The rest of them, the ones who can't speak or don't want to speak English do not belong here and I will never change my opinion on this.
The entire way of thinking that the United States is or should be a Melting Pot is total bull shit.
The mixing of cultures when the cultures are too different from each other, does not work and will never work, unless one culture is willing to become one with the other culture, it goes against Nature or the way things are in the real world.
Things are different now, then when our country was young.
In the 19th and early 20th Century, immigrants moved here for freedom and to become Americans, now it is different since now a lot of people, especially from south of the border, are not interested in Freedom or becoming Americans but only are interested in making money. To them American is the land of gold and silver so they move here because back in the country of their birth they lived in poverty, and as bad as they may be living here, it is way better then the way they lived in their countries.
The mexicans and others from south of the border want the money they can make here but are unwilling to learn English or even hostile to the idea of having to learn English.
And all the bi-lingual crap makes it easy for them continue to speak their Bastardized Language and to never have to learn English.
Unless we stop mollycoddling them the scum from south of the border will NEVER assimilate.
They need to become Americans and only Americans and stop being Mexicans who are living in the United States which is what these illegals are. They have No intent, Zero or in their language Nada of ever becoming an American, they will always be Mexicans. And if they want to become Citizens it is only because they want the benefits of Citizenship, but their Hearts will always be Mexican.
And this is just the way it is in the real world and it is not just the Mexicans who are this way it is also the way a lot of other recent immigrants believe.
I have a very good friend who even though he has been a Citizen for a fairly long time his loyalty is not to the United States but to the land of his birth. And that is not the way it should be, but sadly it is with a lot of people who are foreign born.
And it is not only people who move into a new country and refuse to assimilate it is also people who move from the City to the Country who refuse to fit in with the people who were there first.
People move from the City to the Country and then they complain about having horses or worse yet cattle next door to their New nice Country Home.
There is one case where my friends had their large horse stable where another horse owner had a city person build their New Home right next to their horse pasture, but the City person only looked at the property during the winter when the horses were in the barn most of the time, and when summer came and he moved in he noticed the horses and got pissed off and wanted the people to get rid of their horses and even sued them because of the Horse Manure. That is bull shit or in this case Horse Shit.
I have heard that long time residents of Arizona hate having people from California or Yankees moving into their towns and the reason is that the newcomers always try to F*ck things up and change where they now live into the liberal hell they just moved from.
And this is the way it is when Mexicans move into an American City they want to change things to the way they are used to and don't want to behave the way Real American do or should.
Definition of assimilate:
to absorb into the culture or mores of a population or group And that is what they refuse to do. Instead they want us to assimilate into their group.
And to that I have this to say. FUCK THEM TO HELL. I was born a Real American and I come from a very long line of Real Americans and I will die a Real American and those Mexicans can go FUCK THEMSELVES.
And here is on more thing to think about as to Puerto Ricans and others who refer to themselves as Spanish when they are not.
One of my best friends is an Officer in the Merchant Marine and he told me that one time when his ship visited Spain and he went ashore and visited a local Bar some of Spaniards were beating up on one of his Puerto Rican Crew Members and noticing my friend one of the Spaniards walked over to him and told him not to worry and they didn't dislike Americans but only disliked Puerto Ricans because they refer to themselves as Spanish and they are NOT Spanish. Just because they speak a version of Spanish dose not make them Spanish anymore then Speaking a version of English does not mean you are English.
I am an American of English descent but I am not English since I am not a subject of the Queen.
Mexicans, meaning the ones who are now here illegally will always be Mexicans, and will only be loyal to Mexico and never to the United States even if they become Citizens and that is the Truth and just the way it is in the Real World and not in the Fantasy Land that a lot of people, including some of the members of this board, seem to be living in...