STRATIOTES I believe the numbers of Government Forces are a lot less then he believes.
For one thing if law enforces are being used to fight against us, they will not be able to do their primarily job of keeping order in their Cities and Towns.
Also the Percentage of actual Combat Troops vs the Percentage of Support Personal in the Military is about 10% Combat the rest are Support.
I posted about the relative numbers the enemy vs the number of freedom fighters in another topic.
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Second American Revolution the Facts and Truth.
There are a lot of misconceptions that are believed to be the truth by a large percentage of Patriots, and that includes those who are members of this board.
These falsehoods are very dangerous as they lead to false conclusions which will have a negative impact on the Militia's effectiveness.
So I will post a few pertinent Facts that every Freedom Fighter needs to understand before they make any decisions relating to our fight for freedom.
The most important thing we all need to understand is the relative strength of our side, meaning the Freedom Fighters vs their side meaning the Government Forces.
Our Side aka Militia or Freedom Fighters will consist of a percentage of the estimated 80 to 90 Million that is 80,000,000 to 90,000,000 Gun Owners who are Citizens of the United States.
Their Side will consist of the Military and Law Enforcement that the Government will use against us.
First thing to take into consideration is how many of us, meaning Freedom fighters will actually be taking an active part and actually take up arms in the fight for freedom.
The truth is no one and I mean NO ONE has any way of knowing exactly how many of us will actually be fighting. All we or anyone can do is estimate or take an educated guess.
Now it has been said that 3% that is Three Percent of the Population of what was to become the United States actually fought in the American Revolution.
Today a lot of People use this Three Percent as the Percentage of the 80 to 90 Million Gun Owners who will take up arms in the Next American Revolution or Civil War.
I personally consider Three Percent to be the Minimum Percentage who will do the Patriotic thing and take up arms in the fight to preserve our God Given and Constitutionally Guaranteed Rights and Freedoms.
So what will the Actually Number of Freedom Fighters be?
I am just going to list the facts.
There are 80 to 90 Million Gun Owners so if 3% of them fight there will be 2.4 to 2.7 Million Gun Owners taking up arms.
Now lets see how many Freedom fighters other percentages give us, going from low to high.
If there are 90 Million Gun Owners then.
1% = 900 Thousand – 900,000
2% = 1.8 Million – 1,800,000
3% = 2.7 Million – 2,700,000
4% = 3.6 Million – 3,600,000
5% = 4.5 Million – 4,500,000
10% = 9 Million – 9,000,000
15% = 13.5 Million – 13,500,000
20% = 18 Million – 18,000,000
30% = 27 Million – 27,000,000
40% = 36 Million – 36,000,000
And if there are only 80 Million Gun Owners then.
1% = 800 Thousand --- 800,000
2% = 1.6 Million --- 1,600,000
3% = 2.4 Million --- 2,400,000
4% = 3.2 Million --- 3,200,000
5% = 4.0 Million --- 4,000,000
10% = 10.0 Million --- 8,000,000
15% = 12.0 Million -- 12,000,000
20% = 16.0 Million -- 16,000,000
30% = 25.0 Million -- 24,000,000
40% = 32.0 Million – 32,000,000
I personally believe that the number will be significantly greater then 1% and although I would love for there to be 40% or more who will take up arms in defense of Liberty I have no realistic expectations of that many being willing to fight so I will leave 40% as something to hope for but not to realistically expect.
There will also be some people who are not among the 80 to 90 Million Gun Owners who will also join in the fight to preserve their freedom. Some of these will acquire arms from their Gun Owner Family Members or Friends and some will fight using methods other then Firearms.
And there is one other thing as to the number of people who will or may be fighting against the Forces of the Government, that the members of this board and other Patriots don't seem to consider, and that is, we of the are not the only ones who are ticked off with the Government and who want to change things.
The KKK and Aryan Nation on the most extreme Left and the Earth Firsters, the Wall Street Protesters and other wackos on the most extreme Right and a lot of others in between these extremes.
There are a lot of people who are very very very pissed off with the Government for a lot of different reasons and some of these people will take physical action against the Government once the Fighting Starts.
And even though a lot of them may not have the same agenda or goals that we real Freedom Fighters have these Racist and Leftest Fighters will still be a major Pain in the Butt and Problem for the Government to deal with, and during a Civil War or Revolution, whatever is bad for the Enemy is very good for us Freedom Fighters.
Any Enemy of My Enemy is a Friend of Mine.
As to these others who are fighting against the Government for their own purposes all Real Americans especially us of the Militia need to fully understand that after the War is won, the leftists and some of the other groups will attempt to remake our Republic into their version of a Socialist Utopia, or whatever vision of perfection they want to see it become, so we will most likely end up fighting against them so that our New Nation will be a Constitutional Free Republic and not a Socialist utopia or a Racist “I hate Jews” Utopia etc.
And we also need to factor in those who will be fighting against the Government and maybe simultaneously also against the Militia for their own reasons, like the Atzlanders and their Reconquister.
That should take care of any questions about our Fighting Strength, so next will be the Enemy and how many Fighting Men will they have to use against us.
Now now many men with arms does the Government have to use against us Freedom Fighters.
The total strength that the United States Government can use against us includes the Military and Federal, State, County and Local Law Enforcement Personal, the numbers of which are:
Total Number of Civilian Law Enforcement Officers in the United States is 800,000. This number is divided up as follows.
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There are 683,396 full time State, City, University and College, Metropolitan and Non-metropolitan County, and other law enforcement officers in the United States. There are approx. 120,000 full time law enforcement personnel working for the federal government adding up to a total number of 800,000 law enforcement personnel in the U.S.
Now lets get to the Military which some members fear.
The Total Strength of the United States Military both active and reserve is 2,295,000.
Now this may seem like a very large number of combat troops for us Freedom Fighters to engage in open combat, but Numbers can be and in this case are very misleading.
If you add up the Military and the Law Enforcers it equals 3,095,000, so how can Militia or Freedoms Fighters hope to win against that number. The answer is quite simple. The numbers I have posted is not the actually Combat Strength of the Government, but is only the Maximum number of Personal in the Military and Law Enforcement. It is like there are app 300 Million people in the United States but only 80 to 90 Million are Gun Owners and of the Gun Owners only 3% to 20% will actually fight.
The Military is divided up as follows.
Active Duty Military
Army -------------------- 548,000
Marine Corps ------------ 203,095
Navy -------------------- 332,000
Air Force --------------- 323,000
Coast Guard -------------- 41,000
Total Active ---------- 1,445,000
Military Reserves
Army National Guard ----- 353,000
Army Reserve ------------ 205,000
Marine Forces Reserve ---- 40,000
Navy Reserve ------------- 67,000
Air National Guard ------ 107,000
Air Force Reserve -------- 67,000
Coast Guard Reserve ------ 11,000
Total Reserve ----------- 850,000
Total of Active and Reserve Military 2,295,000
Total of Military and Law Enforcers --- 3,095,000
Ok now we know the total number of Armed Forces Personal combined with Law Enforcement Personal so next is figuring out how many Armed Men and Women out of the Total Number of 3,095,000 the Government will be able to use against us.
We will need to do some Subtracting and Dividing. I will take the Military first.
And First the Subtraction.
For the purpose of this Topic I will consider the Coast Guard to be Military.
The Coast Guard has 41,000 Active and 11,000 Reserve, total 52,000.
The Navy has 332,000 Active and 67,000 Reserve.
The way I look at it all of our fighting will be on land so the Coast Guard will have Zero effect on the Government's war effort, so the Coast Guard is effectively useless and will have no effect. So we can Subtract the Coast Guards 52,000 personal.
The Ratio of Combat to Support personal, in Military Jargon (Tooth to Tail Ratio) in the Navy is very high plus the Navy is naturally a Naval Force which makes it of very limited value to the Enemy in their War against us.
The only parts of the Navy to be concerned about are the Carriers and Naval Aviation and the SEALS. And as far as Naval Aviation is concerned only the flight crews of combat aircraft are to be considered Combat Personal all other Crew Members of the Carrier are Support Personal.
What percentage of the Navy are Combat Pilots I do not know but it can't be that large of a percentage and the SEALS are only a very small percentage of the Navy's total strength.
So just for the purpose of this topic lets figure that 90% to 98% of the Navy is either Support Personal or otherwise not useful in the Government's War effort.
Lets for the for the sake of this post, figure that 95% is support so that leaves 5% of the Navy's 399,000 which
Equals 19,950 combat personal and I am being very generous even giving the Navy that number.
Next is the Air Force's 323,000 Active and 67,000 Reserve and Air National Guard 107,000.
The Ratio of Combat to Support personal, in Military Jargon (Tooth to Tail Ratio) in the Air Force is very high but since I figure the Navy has a higher Tooth to Tail Ratio then the Airforce, I will figure that the Air Force has 8% to 10% combat personal.
So the Air Force has only 39,760 to 49,700 combat personal and like the navy I am being very generous.
So now we get to the Army and the Marines and their Reserves and also the Army National Guard. Which have a total strength of 1,349,095.
Now that seems like a formidable number but we need to understand that only about 10% are Combat Personal all the rest are Support Personal.
Using Military jargon the Tooth to Tail Ratio is 1 in 10 that means for every Soldier or Marine who is directly involved in Combat there are 9 Support Personal.
What this means is that the number of personal 1,349,095 is very misleading.
The actual number of Combined Army, and Marines that will be on the battle field fighting against us will only be 10% of the total which equals 134,909 which is the number we will have to fight against.
So now lets add up all the Military forces that can be used against us.
Army --------------- 110,600
Marines ------------ 24,309
Navy --------------- 19,950
Air Force ------------ 24,850
Total --------------- 179,709
Now we get to the 800,000 Law Enforcers who may be fighting against us.
Now figuring out how many will be actively fighting against us as Combat Personal is not as easy as figuring out how many of the Military we will be fighting against.
For one thing Police and other Law Enforcers are not Trained for or Equipped for Military type Combat and are not normally deployed as Combat Personal. The closet Law Enforcers get to being Combat Personal is SWAT and the FBI's HRT and these Law Enforcers are only a very small percentage of the total number of Law Enforcers. And even these SWAT cops are not trained for Military type Combat, SWAT Cops are mostly trained for Home Invasions and Barricade Situations, they are not trained to go into the Bush and seek out and engage a Military Unit.
Some SWAT Cops in rural areas may be more competent in the Bush but they are still not capable of engaging a regular Military Unit in the Bush.
Another thing about Cops, they already have a full time job, giving out traffic tickets and making money for their City or Town, and enforcing all the other Laws oh and they also show up at crime scenes long after the crime has been committed and they also respond to domestic situations. They also do keep street and other crime under some control, so they do have a useful purpose.
Here are a few facts.
Cops like anyone else can only be in one place at a time. They can't answer Domestic Disturbance calls and be in a Fire Fight with the Militia.
If the Police are going to be used to fight against us in the War they are not going to be able to properly do their regular job which is supposedly to protect the General Population and keep crime under control and if they are spending all or a lot of their time searching for Freedom Fighters and also fighting Freedom Fighters Crime will Increase and the General Population will be screaming for Police Protection.
Think of it this way. A Bank will be robbed and the robbers will be sunning themselves on a beach in Rio by the time the Cops arrive at the Bank.
In the third Die Hard Movie, someone robbed a store and told Willis that with all the cops off the street you could rob Fort Knox and if Cops are chasing Militia the Criminals will be able to do as they please.
So the Police will either be able to do their usual job or they will be fighting against the Freedom Fighters what do you think the Mayor and Chief of Police will want their Cops doing?
When the war first starts it will be the Cops who will be fighting against us but once the war is fully on it will be the Military we will be fighting. The Police will only have a small part to play.
Another reason the Police will not want to fight against us is, as long as they stay out of it they will not be considered Combatants, but if they do take an active part they will be considered Combatants and will even be Targets of Opportunity and will be taken out whenever and wherever they are found or encountered.
