Lord Vader, both Mexneck and Breacher are freedom-loving Patriots. They certainly don't always agree with me on everything, and neither do you, but that's alright. (Seriously, if I ever find someone that does agree with me on everything, I'm going to be very, very worried.)

The arguments they use are the same arguments that Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and a mob of other politicians and so-called journalists use. It's not their fault they use them, it's what they were taught to use. Arguing really does nothing; just keep using logic and reason, and eventually it will sink in.

It's not easy. Ask Ron Paul, he's been doing it for as long as I have. But you know, our Creator has endowed us with the ability to think, and there's a reason He did so. Don't be discouraged, just keep plugging away at it, and eventually people will listen.

Onward and upward,
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