Reports are vague, but there are one to three shooters in or near the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California. TheInland Regional Center provides services to people with developmental disabilities. The shooters may be wearing body armor. There appears to me many dead and wounded.

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There are reports that there were three shooters, who are now on the loose.

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Crap not another shooting.

If there is more then one shooter then it is not just some crazy a-hole and if it is just only one crazy person at least it is in California where they already have an Assault Rifle ban.

The shooter or shooters may have escaped in a black SUV, perhaps a Yukon. These early reports are often wrong, but that's what we're hearing now.

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That's what I'm thinking too.

There was apparently a Christmas party going on in a conference room, that was possibly not connected with with the activities of the Inland Regional Center, but no one is saying just what this group was.

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I am concerned that if these mass shootings keep happening there Will Be More Anti-Gun Laws.

The pro-gun people including Republicans and GOP Candidates must come up with a plan to stop these shooting or keep the victims from being shot.

Getting Rid of Gun-Free Zones and permitting people like this latest batch of Defenseless Victims to be able to defend themselves by being armed would be a good place to start.

And putting mental cases who are mentally ill enough that they can not live among others without wanting to kill someone in the Hospital where they belong.

Even if firearms were totally impossible to obtain, anyone who really wants to hurt and kill people can do it by multiple means including explosives or something as readily available as a Car or Truck.

I hope this ends up being an attack by ISIS etc.

Yep. An armed society is a polite society. A society where some have guns and some don't is an invitation for chaos.

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The Commie Muslim in the White House was just on TV and wanted everyone on the No Fly List to be prohibited from buying guns.

The Commie scum doesn't even know if ISIS is involved and he is already advantage of a tragedy to promote his Commie Agenda.

I really really really hope that it is three Muslim Shooters, and that will be bad for Obama and his plans for bringing Muslim Refugees into the Country.

It is being reported there are more then one shooters and that there is a search on for the shooters so they have gotten away.

It was also mentioned that it may be a Terrorist Attack.

And since they have escaped will they just disappear or will they Hit Again, and if they are ISIS Terrorists what are the odds that this will not be the last attack they make.

When this thing first started, I was inclined to disbelieve there were more than one shooter, but it looks like there really were. And they had a well thought out plan, to do what they came to do and get away.

Frankly, I'm puzzled, along with everyone else. They must have had some sort of goal, but they don't seem to have left any clues as to what it was.

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If they attacked Planned Parenthood or Abortion Clinic then there would be a possible reason but this place it is not Logical unless the purpose was just to cause fear and there will be a lot of fear since the Scum are now on the lose.

If they were Islamic Terrorists then some group should eventually take credit.

But if no group takes credit that will create a different type of fear.

It looks like they have the suspects down in a black SUV. There must have been a pretty serious shootout, there is a police car with the windows shot out and apparently an officer was wounded by a ricochet.

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It is being reported that there is one Suspect down at that location so unless that means they captured two suspects alive there are still two on the lose.

One suspect is down, and it looks like two more still inside the vehicle. They're understandably pretty cautious about checking it out. The Tsarnaev brothers had at least one pipe bomb hand grenade, these guys could easily have one also.

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Scratch that. One down in the street, one down in the vehicle, and possibly a third one barricaded in a home or church nearby.

This is turning into a real cluster.

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I just want to find out who these murderers are. More specifically are they Foreign or are they and I hope they are not, Americans.

At least one of the shooters has been identified as an Arab.

Its game the fuck on folks. It will go up slowly from here as the ISIS crews go active. I don't think they will be doing any major push to take over any territory, but they will gradually step up the pace of attacks in divergent places as they compete with each other for glory.

Self radicalized ISIS sympathizers, but at least one is a foreign Arab.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-85209158/
Does anyone believe that this makes sense, I sure don't.

Lets analyze this.

A man got ticked off and left and somehow two of his friends were mentally deranged enough that they joined him in killing all those people.

And those two friends also had all the equipment needed to do the dirty deed.

And all this happened within a very short while of Bastard No 1 leaving the event.

I know some people who are really bad news but non of them would be crazy enough to do that just because a friend asked them to.

This thing has had me puzzled from the start. They were close to at least two interstates, I don't know why they hung around the area. One of the dead suspects is a woman - another curve ball. And the police and FBI are being pretty cagey about identifying these folks. This is just strange.

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So one is a foreign Arab.

I wonder how Obama and the other Progressive scum will try to explain this away and use it to attack the 2nd Amendment.

That is the way I see it and I believe it will lead to some Real Americans going on a Crusade against Muslims.

This may be the beginning of the next Civil War and all the excuse Obama will need to suspend the Constitution, cancel the Election and stay in power indefinitely, or at least attempt to.

It will then be up to Patriots to save our Constitutional Republic from Obama and his Muslim brothers and all the Progressive Scum.

Yes very strange.

Maybe the FBI has been told to blame this all on Real Americans meaning the Militia and other Patriots.

I am going to caution against retaliatory strikes against "rank and file" Muslims who you might find here in the US, unless they go talking shit, then it's all about the street credibility.

The rationale is that from our vantage point, we are not going to be able to tell the diplomats, business people, or critically important military translators from the troublemakers unless the troublemakers are given sufficient leeway to go ahead and identify themselves, for example, those around Dearborn Michigan who were harassing Arab Christians at the Arab festivals, or a few of the outfits around Detroit>

The info I got a while back on the ISIS operatives is they were sending their own representatives to shake down Mosques and Jihad supporters who already had connections to Al Queda or the "more tolerated" Jihadi groups and taking over the Jihad networks and resources among them, with some violence I might ad, but that was all kept hush hush to those on the outside.

Those operatives and representatives had placed a few thousand of their cells around the US, and in the tradition of the underground Al Queda cells, tend to keep their noses clean until they go active. When it came to the Al Queda cells, many of them eventually "flipped" and began informing on other radicals. That's been the strong criticism that the ISIS people had against Al Queda to begin with.

Because they traditionally have loyalty and commitment problems on their own end, the Jihadis are extremely difficult to predict. Some Imam puts out word for a series of attacks to a dozen or so cells, maybe one or two will have the guts to carry it through. Others, however, will know their support lifeline, if they needed it, might get cut off on that timetable whether or not they go active against their targets. For example, if they are being financially supported by the ISIS aligned Imams who in turn are collecting Jihadi taxes to support them, they will be told that it cuts off on such and such a date, that they better be either on their way to paradise or on their way back to the Daesh controlled territories after a newsworthy event, because after that date, the financial support is cut. Now if it is a self supporting cell, like they were sent here with money and set up a business, they may tell their superiors to fuck off, or maybe even snitch them (which has happened with Al Queda cells). Supposedly, the ISIS people have figured ways to prevent that.

The Democrat party machine is wasting no time demanding "tougher gun laws".

Translation: make it easier for the predators.

They were "chasing that ambulance" before it even arrived at the scene...

Heartless opportustic bastards!

Well I would certainly feel safer knowing this herd was lumbering to my rescue.

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I'll never understand why reporters aren't an endangered species. "Could you tell me how you felt, knowing that your wife is hiding, terrified, in a closet, with gunshots all around, and the police won't let you in your own neighborhood?"

If I was that guy, I would have shoved that microphone up his f****** a**. Sideways.

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That describes not only the Democratic Politicians perfectly but also most if not all Liberals.

There is also a single word that perfectly describes them, that word is EVIL.

It is now reported on CNN that Farook was Radicalized and also reported on CBS that neither Farook or his female accomplice were on the Terrorist Watch List.

So even if the Obama and the rest of the Progressive Scum got their wish of Preventing anyone on the Terrorist Watch List from Purchasing Firearms it would not have prevented this Tragedy, since these two Terrorists are not on the WATCH LIST.

Here's the latest info the authorities are releasing:

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Even if someone does get put on the watch list, it is a restriction of rights without any fair trial by a jury of peers. Even then, their "peers" might be questionable. I could imagine that in places like Dearborn they would be sung jury nullification to the max.

Nope, the real response is for the targeted population to arm up for immediate active shooter response and then retaliate when and where it it ethical to do so.

The demand for the criminalization of being armed is in fact, unethical retaliation. It shows the mindset of who the Democrats are really itching to go to war against.

If being on the Watch list became a disqualification to own a Firearm then I know that a lot of Patriots would soon be added to that list.

Anyone who speaks the truth about the Government etc would be added to the list and the list would keep growing until everyone who loves Freedom and our constitutional Republic is prohibited from owning Firearms and the 2nd Amendment is effectively nullified.

CNN is now reporting that Syed Farook was in touch with "more than one international terrorist subjects." I wonder if they can be any more vague?

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If this attack is linked to Islamic Terrorism, it is not good for Obama's agenda.

Tougher gun laws would not have prevented this since Islamic Terrorists would not let any gun law stop them in the USA any more then tough gun laws stopped them in Paris.

It will make it harder for Obama to convince anyone, at least those who are undecided, that keeping people on the terrorist Watch List from getting guns would have prevented this, since they were not on any list and this tragedy would still have happened.

It will also make more people be against bringing in Syrian Refugees and cause more people to be leery of Muslims.

And there is this, how many Islamic Terrorist Attacks in the United States will Americans tolerate before taking personal action against Muslims living in the USA.

They were fairly well paid government workers who massacred the same coworkers who had given them a wedding party not long prior. They did the attack as an attack on Christmas.

Tashfeen Malik pledged allegiance to ISIS , according to a report from CNN.

An attorney for Farook's family, amazingly, says that Tashfeen could not have been one of the shooters, because she was too small .

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It's finally official. The FBI is investigating the shooting as an act of terrorism.

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Bank records show $28,500 deposit to Syed Farook's account two weeks before the shooting, source says


By Catherine Herridge, Pamela Browne Published December 08, 2015 FoxNews.com


EXCLUSIVE - A $28,500 deposit was made to Syed Farook’s bank account from WebBank.com on or about Nov.18, some two weeks before he and his wife Tashfeen Malik carried out the San Bernardino massacre, a source close to the investigation told Fox News Monday.

Investigators are exploring whether the transaction was a loan taken out by Farook, who with his wife killed 14 and wounded 21 when they opened fire at a holiday lunch. He earned $53,000 a year with the county as an environmental health inspector. Investigators are also exploring the possibility that a subsequent cash withdrawal was used to reimburse Enrique Marquez, the man who bought the two AR-15 semiautomatic rifles used in the San Bernardino shootings. Marquez, who could be charged, especially if it is determined that he illegally modified the weapons, is now reportedly answering investigators’ questions.

“Right now our major concern at the FBI, the ATF, and the JTTF (Joint Terrorism Task Force) is determining how those firearms, the rifles in particular, got from Marquez to Farook and to Malik,” assistant special agent in charge with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, John D’Angelo, told reporters in California Monday.

The deposit came via Utah-based WebBank.com, which describes itself as “a leading provider of national consumer and commercial private-label and bank card financing programs” on a nationwide basis. On or about Nov.20, Fox News is told Farook converted $10,000 to cash, and withdrew the money at a Union Bank branch in San Bernardino. Afterwards, in the days before the shooting, there were at least three transfers of $5,000 that appear to be to Farook’s mother.

The loan and large cash withdrawal were described to Fox News by the source as “significant evidence of pre-meditation,” and further undercut the premise that an argument at the Christmas party on Dec. 2 led to the shooting.

Fox News is also told that investigators are exploring whether the $10,000 cash withdrawal was used to reimburse Enrique Marquez, the man who bought the two semiautomatic rifles used in the San Bernardino shootings. Marquez is now reportedly answering investigators’ questions.

At Monday's news conference, authorities said the weapons were all legally purchased in California between 2007 and 2012.

The source, who was not authorized to speak on the record about the federal investigation, said there is further evidence of pre-meditation with a charge for the SUV rental processing on Farook’s account Nov. 30, two days before the shooting.

Contacted by Fox News, a woman who was identified by another employee as Lorie Gilbert and a member of WebBank.com’s strategic partnership, said they were “not going to respond to that (questions about the Farook transaction)” before hanging up. Another WebBank.com employee said they were “not talking to the press.”

A spokesman for Union Bank, David Weidman, declined to comment on specific questions, including whether the Nov. 20 $10,000 cash withdrawal triggered reporting requirements. Weidman confirmed they are working with the FBI and others, adding, "We are cooperating to the full extent of the law with the agencies conducting investigations into this tragedy.”

There was no immediate response from lawyer David Chesley, who has been representing the family.

Catherine Herridge is an award-winning Chief Intelligence correspondent for FOX News Channel (FNC) based in Washington, D.C. She covers intelligence, the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security. Herridge joined FNC in 1996 as a London-based correspondent.

Well, that certainly is some evidence of premeditation. I'd be interested to see where that money came from, if it was all his savings, or if someone else was financing him.

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