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Re: "Active Shooter" in San Bernardino #158929
12/10/2015 05:09 PM
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Re: "Active Shooter" in San Bernardino #158930
12/11/2015 05:19 AM
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Homeland (In)Security shut down an investigation of an Islamic group in 2013. That investigation may have prevented the massacre in San Bernardino.

Why was it shut down? Because the federal government did not want to profile Islamic groups.

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A former Department of Homeland Security agent says that an investigation he was conducting into a fundamentalist Islamic group operating in the U.S. may have helped stop San Bernardino jihadi Syed Farook had the government not shut down his probe.

During an interview with Fox News’ Megyn Kelly on Thursday, Philip Haney said that in 2012 as an agent with U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s National Targeting Center, he opened an investigation into a Sunni Islamic group called, Tablighi Jamaat, a subset of the fundamentalist Deobandi movement.

But Haney said that just a year into the investigation it was shut down State Department and the Homeland Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties.

The reason the investigation was quashed? Because the federal government did not want to profile Islamic groups, Haney told Kelly.


In the process of shutting down Haney’s inquiry, the feds also deleted his files, which included information on an organization with ties to Farook’s mosque, San Bernardino’s Deobandi movement-affiliated Dar-al-Uloom al-Islamia.

And Farook’s wife and accomplice, Tashfeen Malik, went to school at Pakistan’s al-Huda, which also has ties to the Deobandi movement.


As the global intelligence group Stratfor has reported, Talighi Jamaat has been linked to a number of attempted terrorist attacks targeting the U.S.

Members of the sect were tied to the Oct. 2002 Portland Seven case and the Sept. 2002 Lackawanna Six case. Members were also involved in an Aug. 2006 plot to bomb airliners en route from London to the U.S. and attempted bombings in London and Glasgow, Scotland in July 2007. Stratfor also reported that Talighi Jamaat affiliates were involved in the the July 7, 2005 bombings. That attack left 52 dead and more than 700 injured.

Haney said that had his investigation been allowed to develop, Farook may have ended up on the federal government’s terror radar or on the government’s no-fly list. And if that had occurred, Farook would not have been able to connect with Malik. The jihadists reportedly met in 2013. She came to the U.S. from Saudi Arabia last year on a fiancee visa and married soon after.

“Either Syed would have been put on the no-fly list because association with that mosque, and/or the K-1 visa that his wife was given may have been denied because of his association with a known organization,” Haney told Kelly....
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Re: "Active Shooter" in San Bernardino #158931
12/11/2015 06:31 PM
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Only in America. We create this massive complex to eliminate specific targets. We then use it for everything other than eliminating those specific targets and, when given the chance to eliminate it a few seconds before the buzzer, we hold the ball and lose the game.


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Eyewitnesses insist '3 shooters' in San Bernardino

'This was not an oddball terrorist couple. This was a cell'

Joe Kovacs

A week after the terrorist attack in San Bernardino, California, that killed 14 people and left 21 injured, some are wondering whatever happened to the supposed third shooter that witnesses say shot up the Inland Regional Center.

The two Muslim suspects who were killed in a police shootout have been identified as Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, who were reportedly planning the deadly assault a year in advance.

But witnesses on the day of the Dec. 2 massacre insisted there were three shooters.

Sally Abdelmageed, who worked inside the center where the attack occurred, claimed in an interview broadcast on CBS News that there were three assailants.

“I heard shots fired and it was from – you know – an automatic weapon,” Abdelmageed told the network, adding it was all “very unusual. Why would we hear shots? As we looked out the window a second set of shots goes off [...] and we saw a man fall to the floor. Then we just looked and we saw three men dressed in all black, military attire, with vests on. They were holding assault rifles. As soon as they opened up the doors to building three [...] one of them [...] started to shoot into the room.”

In her description of the perpetrators, Abdelmageed said she "couldn't see a face, he had a black hat on [...] black cargo pants, the kind with the big puffy pockets on the side [...] long sleeve shirt [...] gloves [...] huge assault rifle [...] six magazines [...] I just saw three dressed exactly the same."

"You are certain you saw three men?" the reporter asked her again.

"Yes," she stressed. "It looked like their skin color was white. They look like they were athletic build and they appeared to be tall."

A second witness, Juan Fernandez, confirmed Abdelmageed's description of events, telling reporters he also saw "three white men in military fatigues" who "took off" in a "black Impala or SUV."

At the American Spectator, writer Arnold Ahlert noted in a column focusing on the third shooter: "Since then? Nothing. Certainly eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, but isn't that precisely the reason one might expect the media to clarify the discrepancies between their original reporting and the current status quo?"

Ahlert continued:

As bad as that lack of closure is, the second question is far more troublesome: why did the FBI abandon their investigation of the townhouse rented by the terrorists and allow media access to it only two days after the shooting – and leave shredded documents behind? Former NYPD Det. Harry Houck illuminates the insanity. "This apartment clearly is full of evidence," he explained. "I don't see any fingerprint dust on the walls where they went in there and checked for fingerprints for other people that might have been connected to these two. You've got documents laying all over the place – you've got shredded documents that need to be taken out of there and put together to see what was shredded," Houck added. "You have passports, driver's licenses – now you have thousands of fingerprints all over inside this crime scene."

The explanation offered by David Bowdich, assistant director of the FBI's Los Angeles office, strains credulity. "Once the residents have the apartment and we're not in it anymore, we don't control it," he said. "Once we turn that location back over to the occupants of that residence or once we board it up, anyone who goes in at that point, that's got nothing to do with us."

Houck wasn't buying it. "I tell you I am so shocked. This is detective 101 for crying out loud," he insisted. "It looks like there are dozens of people in there totally destroying a crime scene which is still vital in this investigation because we don't know how many other people that they were connected with in this thing. There might be tons of fingerprints in there that we need to look at to see if there is any kind of connection to those fingerprints or some people that may be on a watch list or something else."

"Something stinks here," Ahlert concluded. "Given the track record of Islamic terror denialism embraced by the Obama administration – along with innumerable examples of media malfeasance protecting that approach – the unmistakable odor of a coverup, or an orchestrated disinformation campaign, hangs heavy in the air."

Ahlert's analysis caught the attention of radio host Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday, who also has been wondering about the third shooter since watching news reports last week.

"This was not, you know, an oddball terrorist couple. This was a cell," said Limbaugh.

"They had a lot of people gathering ammunition, working on planning, driving other people around. It's not what we've been told it is. It was not a couple 'radicalized' who met on a dating site. The active theory now is that it was an arranged marriage by terrormasters and that they had, after the arranged marriage, a mission, and the San Bernardino attack was the mission – and it may have been more, we don't know. Third shooter? Who, what, when, where, why? Is there one? Was there one? Two witnesses said they saw one. The media reported third shooter. But nobody's had any interest in tracking a shooter down."

Just two days after the Caifornia carnage, Stu Tarlowe asked the same question about the purported third shooter in a column for WND.

"So, what gives, America? Did that third suspect drop off the edge of the earth?" Tarlowe wrote.

"Did he or she disappear in the same way that our ability and willingness to recognize and identify a terrorist act when we see it seems to have disappeared? Or have we collectively forgotten how to count? Have we now become a nation of the arithmetically challenged, the journalistically challenged and the cognitively challenged?

Follow Joe Kovacs on Twitter @JoeKovacsNews

Read this as well.
http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/baffling-odd-gaps-in-california-terror-attack/


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
Re: "Active Shooter" in San Bernardino #158933
12/12/2015 05:06 PM
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The only way you can effectively respond to this is to shoot the mass shooters on the spot in some way that is not immediately fatal and then get them talking in front of cameras.

I am not saying public press conference, but in front of cameras so we are not as bad off trying to guess what the hell happened or why.


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Re: "Active Shooter" in San Bernardino #158934
12/16/2015 08:05 AM
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Checking social media accounts would not have stopped the murderers. All those stories we've been hearing about Tashfeen Malik's Facebook posts? Untrue.

It would have been nice if some (well, all) of the candidates in last night's debate had done a little fact checking.

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FBI Director James Comey said on Wednesday that there remains no evidence the couple who massacred 14 people in San Bernardino, California, on December 2 were part of an organized cell or had any contact with overseas militant groups.

Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 29, expressed support for "jihad and martyrdom" in private communications but never did so on social media, Comey said at a press conference in New York City.
At one time, only federal immigration officials were prevented from looking into social media posts, and that policy ended sometime in late 2014. The FBI, CIA, DEA, NSA, and other DHS officials have never been prevented from looking at social media posts.

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