House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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Rejoice! There won\'t be a government shutdown for a while! Rep. Amash, and Sens. Cruz, and Paul, and Sanders voted against the bill. Sen. Rubio didn\'t think it was important enough to show up to vote. Brushing aside concerns about deepening the budget deficit, U.S. lawmakers approved $1.8 trillion worth of federal spending and tax breaks on Friday in a rare case of bipartisan action after years of damaging fiscal fights in Congress.
The Senate voted 65-33 to approve sweeping legislation that averted a government shutdown, locked in billions of dollars of tax breaks and scrapped a 40-year-old ban on the export of U.S. oil.
Negotiations on Capitol Hill were mostly free of the acrimony that has blighted similar talks for the past five years and forced lawmakers to produce a succession of stopgap measures just to keep the government running.
"I think the system worked" this time, said President Barack Obama, who will now sign the bill into law.
It was a win for new House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan, who managed to keep fiscal hawks in his Republican caucus under control during weeks of talks and avoid the kind of infighting that plagued his predecessor, John Boehner.
Obama gave Ryan's efforts a nod during a White House news conference.... We did manage to run John Boehner out of Congress. A fat lot of good that did. Onward and upward, airforce
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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12/18/2015 05:42 PM
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RINOs just replace one stooge with another.
"Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at it�s worst, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine (from "Common Sense" 1776)
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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They just proved that there is a resident criminal class that is running the government.
1) We need to stop buying products from companies that advertise with the major media outlets, thus removing the financing of MSN to propagandize on the people.
2) We need to pick up our marbles and start a new political party as many people are fed up with both parties.
3) We should start a petition to put a series of special prosecutors in place to investigate the criminality in the administrative, legislative and judicial branches and who will report accurately to the people.
4) We need to build a few gallows in front of the capital building to remind our representatives what happens to those representatives that commit high crimes and misdemeanors, and then actually use them.
5) We need to identify a group of ethical and moral leaders that will put aside greed and wantonness to help return our government of the people to the anti-tyranny and constitutional republic principles of our founding fathers.
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always Bad Men." Lord Actin 1887
I fear we live in evil times...
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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12/20/2015 11:03 AM
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We don't have the numbers or resources to accomplish any of the above, that's reality.
The only workable solution for those who actually care is to build a few lifeboats when you wish you had a ship. That's the sovereign independent communities and we already have a legal framework for all of that with existing laws and regulations. From sovereign communities to autonomous zones, from autnomous zones to independence, from independence to claiming government land which was reserved for the people anyway but now appears to be sidelined by the elites so they can transfer it to the foreign interests in a defacto invasion/surrender scenario. That alone might have to be a 30-50 year plan but it's better to have free nationhood as a permanent goal than reaching another 20 years to have someone in office for 4-8 years trying to run a government staffed by people who you know will all not believe in the same thing and will be working hard to monkey wrench every plan of action that our people come up with.
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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12/20/2015 12:16 PM
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There is a movement to primary Speaker Ryan out of Congress, and they now have a Facebook page . It already has over 16,000 "likes," including me. Check out the Fire Paul Ryan website too. Onward and upward, airforce
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12/20/2015 03:21 PM
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Just liked it and shared with all my friends. 16,852 so far... Seems to be gaining momentum.
"Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at it�s worst, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine (from "Common Sense" 1776)
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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Up to 23,752 as of Tuesday morning!
Primary is in April
"Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at it�s worst, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine (from "Common Sense" 1776)
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25,411 Tuesday pm, and discussed on the Drudge report.
"Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at it�s worst, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine (from "Common Sense" 1776)
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30,122 as of Thursday AM...
Has a sitting speaker of the house ever been defeated in a primary? It would send a HUGE message to establishment stooges that we are watching and that there are consequences.
"Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at it�s worst, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine (from "Common Sense" 1776)
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Originally posted by Huskerpatriot: Has a sitting speaker of the house ever been defeated in a primary? No, but The former House Majority Leader, Eric Cantor, was defeated in a primary in 2013. In 1994, Speaker Tom Foley became the first Speaker to be defeated in a general election since 1862. Onward and upward, airforce
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This would be a good year to start!
"Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at it�s worst, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine (from "Common Sense" 1776)
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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Apparently the Republican Party is on the verge of imploding over Donald Trump and a heck of a lot of Democrats are sick of Hillary and want Bernie Sanders to be their guy, but apparently the party loyal are all about some sort of coalition to back Hillary and going across the aisle to recruit anti-trump Republicans.
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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We seriously could be seeing an 1860 like "party realignment"... And we all know what happened after THAT election!
Just saying...
"Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at it�s worst, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine (from "Common Sense" 1776)
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Re: House and Senate Approve $1.8 Trillion Spending Bill
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The Ryan rift is stating to get some attention from the mainstream media. And ryan is starting to fight back. Outside the Beltway, the right is livid with new Speaker Paul Ryan’s trillion-dollar spending deal with Democrats.
Conservative pundit Ann Coulter says Ryan, just seven weeks on the job, is ripe for a primary challenge. “Paul Ryan Betrays America,” blared a headline on the conservative site Breibart.com. And Twitter is littered with references to the Wisconsin Republican’s new “Muslim beard.”
Ryan is refusing to let the attacks go unanswered and is using his megaphone as the nation’s top elected Republican to try to drown out the chorus of conservative critics.
After Congress passed the nearly $2 trillion government funding and tax-cuts package last week, Ryan touted conservative victories in a roundtable with Capitol Hill reporters, on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, and again during a trio of interviews with friendly conservative talk radio hosts Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt and his old political mentor, Bill Bennett.
“He will continue to talk directly to conservatives throughout the country as he has always done,” a Ryan aide said.
Ryan has repeatedly stressed that the bipartisan funding agreement lifted the 40-year federal ban on crude oil exports and renewed hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks for U.S. businesses and families.
But in a nod to the critics, Ryan has also emphasized that he “inherited” the flawed omnibus from his predecessor, ousted Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), and that the cake was “already baked” by the time he was handed the reins in late October.
Those arguments have done little to sway some of Ryan’s critics, particularly on conservative talk radio.... Onward and upward, airforce
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Too many procedural rules and regulations which hinder effective and honest government.
How do we get rid of them ? Get rid of the people who like them and are comfortable using them.
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Speaker Ryan is trying to emphasize the conservative "victories" in the $1.8 trillion budget deal. Good luck with that, Paul. House Republicans seem a tad defensive about their year-end budget bill as evidenced by their activities over the holiday break, suggesting that they are hearing complaints about the package at home.
Speaker Paul D. Ryan, who has come under criticism from the far-right over the deal, used Twitter on Sunday to post an interview where he reiterated his distaste for omnibus spending bills and said House Republicans were driven by their concern to make certain the military was funded. He again posted on Twitter a recitation of the “significant number of wins for Republican priorities” in the bill while noting it was a compromise.
The weekend activity of the speaker’s office followed concerted efforts by other top House Republicans to push back against conservative criticism of the deal by highlighting Republican victories, particularly lifting the ban on exports of domestic oil and imposing restrictions on the Environmental Protection Agency and the Internal Revenue Service.
While the legislation has been hailed in Washington as evidence that the two parties can work together, it has been assailed by conservative activists who considered it a capitulation to President Obama and congressional Democrats and a sign that little has changed despite the departure of John A. Boehner as speaker. They have been particularly harsh on the measure’s temporary increase in visas for foreign workers and the lack of limits on Planned Parenthood or on refugees from Syria and Iraq.
Republican leaders have also been hurt by repeated Democratic claims of victory on both the spending and policy fronts.
But Mr. Ryan seems to be on solid footing with those who count the most: his House Republican colleagues. Most of them voted for the bill and the conservatives who did not are giving the new speaker a pass, essentially saying he was playing out Mr. Boehner’s hand. Mr. Ryan has a much higher standing in the conservative movement than Mr. Boehner ever did, but he will not be able to keep the critics at bay indefinitely if he cannot show them he plans to do things differently in 2016. I'm still waiting for someone - anyone - to try to justify bringing the Export-Import Bank back to life. Meanwhile, that Facebook page has over 32,000 likes now. Onward and upward, airforce
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