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Flip side of the coin #161363
03/25/2018 09:30 AM
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Parkland survivor to gun control classmates: Don’t use my sister’s name to push your agenda

Gun control advocates SLAMMED Petty because he doesn’t agree with them

Twitchy - March 25, 2018


Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student Patrick Petty had a strong message to his classmates who are pushing for stronger gun control legislation: he does not want his slain sister’s name used to advocate for their agenda. His reason? She wouldn’t have supported their end game.

Petty’s sister, Alaina, was in the Stoneman Douglas JROTC program and was one of three JROTC members who died during the Valentine’s Day massacre.

Hey @Emma4Change please stop using my sister’s name to push your agenda, she DID NOT and WOULD NOT support it

— Patrick Petty (@Patrickpetty23) March 24, 2018

Most people were supportive of Petty’s wish and even understood where he was coming from.

If she continues using her to push her agenda, take her to court and issue a cease and desist order.

Keep fighting the good fight, Patrick. Your sister would be proud. #2A

— J. Ryan C. (@JRyan1790) March 24, 2018

Exploitation of the worst kind. This is very shameful politics.

— Doctor Bringus (@DoctorBringus) March 24, 2018

The sad reality is this is what politics is these days.

I had the same thought… when students on the podium called out the names of each individual victim, claiming that they were marching in their place. They cannot speak on behalf of the victims… I believe your sister was one of several, who would not have supported this agenda.

— Dolly Long (@happynmontana) March 24, 2018

Pretty likely the three JROTC kids wouldn’t have supported it.

I am so sorry Patrick, for your loss, and for having to endure what you are seeing today. Please know that we support you, and continue to pray for you and your family. ❤

— Dolly Long (@happynmontana) March 24, 2018

While I don't know for sure, I imagine Peter Wang would feel the same.

Who decided that the @CNN Fabulous Five represent all of you?

— Pablo (@Pablo_1791) March 24, 2018

She and people like her will do ANYTHING to push their agenda forward. Even if it means lying.

— Nov 8, 2016 (@Edmond_Estrada) March 24, 2018

Sadly, yes.

That’s the problem. No one is asking the families who actually LOST a child or sibling in this tragedy what they want to see changed.

— Josh O'Neal (@royalewithchief) March 24, 2018

Instead they’re asking a few loud, overly vocal older students who were on a different side of the school what they want.

Exactly why I’ve been saying we need to hear more from the families of the victims but I know all too well the MSM doesn’t actually care about the victims or their families.

— I Yam What I Yam (@Nvr4Get91101) March 24, 2018

For those of you who think it is alright for someone to use another to further their agenda, I only ask this… what if this was your family and you know they did not agree with how their name was being used? And for the ones who don't know, Patrick Petty lost his sister at MSD

— Kathleen Howard (@kmhlpn30) March 24, 2018

What’s even worse? Gun control advocates SLAMMED Petty because he doesn’t agree with them.

Seriously. What the hell is going on with the world?

I have no idea who you lost, but if she was not a supporter of sensible gun control, shame on you and her.

Having said that, if only you 2A yahoos were being killed, there would be no need for Miss Gonzalez's movement. Unfortunately, it's innocents who are paying w/their lives.

— JRG #NunesMustGo (@SimonSaysBooHoo) March 24, 2018

Shame on Alaina? She’s DEAD and you’re dragging her name through the mud because she supported the Second Amendment? Shame on YOU.

You are sick and twisted puke. His post says he lost his sister.

— jenB (@jbug9969) March 24, 2018


At least someone said it.

ITs weird like that because I feel like if she knew she was about to get gunned down be a legally purchased gun she might want to alter the second amendment so that maybe she would not get gunned down

— 49ermegafan (@CR_49ermegafan) March 24, 2018

You don’t know if her views would change. None of us do. Stop acting like you’re God.

Guess she was in the wrong place, wrong time, wrong bro

— robbiewithoutanynumbers (@robbienotrobin) March 24, 2018

That’s not heartless or anything.

While I cannot speak for the Parkland Activists calling them out when they are honoring your late sister is just that. Sorry for your loss but I think your sister would appreciate @Emma4Change mentioning her as she has with others. What is your agenda? #MarchForOurLives

— Cognitive Fungus (@Myqui) March 24, 2018

It must not have occurred to some people that some of these survivors have no ulterior motive. Some of them just want to heal and move on.

Her FAMILY gets to decide when and how her name gets to be used!

— Kelly K ❤️🇺🇸💙 (@Kimball1Kelly) March 24, 2018

EXACTLY.

No. Wrong. Public record. I can use her name right now for the march which I am doing – #alainapetty RIP we march for you. #MarchForOurLives

— Cognitive Fungus (@Myqui) March 24, 2018

Gun control advocates: you can’t march for anyone but yourselves. You can’t know what each of these students would have wanted. You don’t know if they would have agreed with your agenda.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Liberal Media Censors Pro-Second Amendment Teen

By Jeffrey Lord | March 24, 2018 4:00 PM EDT

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It is always amazing to see a supposedly “objective” media outlet in headlong pursuit of a leftist agenda item. This time? Time magazine has outdone itself in the media bias category, with CNN right behind them.

Time made the perfectly normal journalistic decision to feature students from Parkland, Florida’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on its cover. The caption in capital letters: “ENOUGH”. Fair enough — if the idea is that Time is some even-handed news magazine reporting on a “just the facts m’am” basis.

But, of course, that’s not what Time did. In a style worthy of the old Soviet propaganda sheet Pravda — English translation “Truth” — what Time did was spectacularly dishonest. Yes, for sure, kids from the Parkland’s high school have emerged as gun control advocates. But there’s another kid out there, also from the exact same school, who has a considerably different view of the issue.

As headlined in the Fox story: “Time magazine leaves Second Amendment supporters off Parkland cover."

The real story- the real truth — goes like this:

“The cover of Time magazine this week features five anti-gun survivors of the Parkland, Fla., high school massacre, but has drawn criticism for pointedly omitting their pro-Second Amendment classmates.

One of those students, Kyle Kashuv, has been a prominent advocate for preventing violence while respecting gun rights in the weeks since the Feb. 14 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

Kashuv has visited the White House, met with President Donald Trump and legislative leaders across party lines, and unveiled an app to prevent school shootings.

But unlike the students appearing on Time magazine's cover, including outspoken NRA opponents and "#NeverAgain" members Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg, Kashuv has publicly declared his support for the Second Amendment and tussled with liberal media figures.”

(For more on Mr. Kashuv, see NewsBusters.) And what does young Mr. Kashuv have to say about this? Well, the obvious: "There’s definitely a media blackout.” Indeed. And in the style of today’s social media and photo shopping, Kashuv did the following:

“When one Twitter user asked why Time had not included students who support gun rights, Kashuv answered, ‘Cause that would make TIME be unbiased.’

He also retweeted parody versions of the Time cover, including one that features him with another conservative student from Parkland. The headline: ‘The Boys who Believe that Screaming ENOUGH is NOT ENOUGH.’”

Switch now to CNN. It seems Kashuv was invited to appear on CNN - and suddenly he was uninvited. Why? Said the high school student:

“But don't worry, CNN really wants to have the other side on, as long as they're complicit,” he tweeted later that day.

‘There's definitely a media blackout’ for those with dissenting, pro-gun rights views, he told the Daily Signal.”

Not to put too fine a point on this, but games like this are seriously bad for the reputations of these journalistic institutions. They are damaging to those media institutions — like Time and CNN — that say they are “objective” or straight-down-the-middle in reporting straight facts. When, in fact, they are anything but. Actions like this make them appear as PR agents for whatever leftist cause of the moment is up for discussion, in this case, guns. Going out of their way to exclude a high school student, a teenager from a school that has suffered a mass shooting, simply for the blatantly obvious reason of pushing the Leftwing view of gun control is appalling as journalism. In fact, it isn’t journalism at all.

On occasion I have cited the following from a long ago political best seller by the Pulitzer Prize-winning author Theodore H. White. The late Mr. White wrote the then-groundbreaking The Making of the President 1960, the first of a twenty-year long quadrennial list of similar books that told the story of presidential elections.

The 1960 book was the tale of the iconic Kennedy-Nixon election. Towards the end, as White writes of the traveling press corps covering John F. Kennedy, after describing how JFK’s staff tended so well and kindly to the press, he writes:

“There is no doubt that this kindliness, respect and cultivation of the press colored all the reporting that came from the Kennedy campaign, and the contrast colored adversely the reporting of the Nixon campaign. By the last weeks of the campaign, those forty or fifty national correspondents who had followed Kennedy since the beginning of his electoral exertions into the November days had become more than a press corps-they had become his friends and, some of them, his most devoted admirers. When the bus or the plane rolled or flew through the night, they sang songs of their own composition about Mr. Nixon and the Republicans in chorus with the Kennedy staff and felt that they, too, were marching like soldiers of the Lord to the New Frontier.”

Here we are a full 58-years later and not only has nothing changed, the problem is worse. JFK and his loving press corps buddies are long gone. But when it comes to pushing the left-wing agenda of the moment — in this case gun control — the media has become the modern version of those “reporters” in 1960 who “felt that they, too, were marching like soldiers of the Lord to the New Frontier.”

If that means they have to put down and deny fair coverage to a high school teenager who has had the guts to stand up and oppose not only his peers (no small thing for a teenager in any high school) but the entire leftist media industrial complex — the teenager personifying what JFK might call a “profile in courage” — then they will do it. In New York minute.

If you want to know why so many Americans are cheering on President Trump and his wholesale assault on the Old Order octopus of American liberalism that has its tentacles everywhere in American society, most visibly in the media, the exclusion by Time and CNN of a young gun control opponent named Kyle Kashuv would be a good place to start.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Bataclan Massacre Survivor: Anti-gun Students ‘Disgusting Vile Abusers Of The Dead’

‘It might be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic and disgusting,’ says Eagles of Death Metal singer

Adan Salazar | Infowars.com - March 26, 2018

Eagles of Death Metal singer Jesse Hughes, who survived a mass shooting in Paris, blasted student organizers of the March for our Lives anti-gun protests, saying they “insult the memory of those who were killed” last month.

In an Instragram post Sunday, the Bataclan massacre survivor slammed Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students for “exploiting the death of our fellow students for a few Facebook likes and some media attention.”

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Obviously….The best thing to do to combat chronic abusers and disregarders of the law(like the law against Murder) is to……..pass another Law!…..Genius!!!…… but before we pass this law we’re going to denigrate the memory and curse ourselves by exploiting the death of 16 of our fellow students for a few Facebook likes and some media attention….and look how well civil rights abuses as it concerns firearms helped to protect me and my friends in Paris!!!!! This almost sounds like the plan of like a kid maybe like a high school student….!. Oh wait that’s right…. The Whitney Houston song about letting the children lead the way wasn’t actually had operating paradigm for life…..And when the truth don’t line up with your bullshit narrative just hold your breath and stamp your feet and refused to except it…. then take multiple days off of school playing hooky at the expense of 16 of your classmates blood….!…. it might be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic and disgusting……As the survivor of a mass shooting I can tell you from first-hand experience that all of you protesting and taking days off from school insult the memory of those who were killed and abuse and insult me and every other lover of liberty by your every action…..Long Live Rock’n’Roll….. and may everyone of these disgusting vile abusers of the dead live as long as possible so they can have the maximum amount of time to endure their shame….and be Cursed….

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“Obviously….The best thing to do to combat chronic abusers and disregarders of the law (like the law against Murder) is to……..pass another Law!…..Genius!!!” Hughes wrote on Sunday.

“…but before we pass this law we’re going to denigrate the memory and curse ourselves by exploiting the death of 16 of our fellow students for a few Facebook likes and some media attention….and look how well civil rights abuses as it concerns firearms helped to protect me and my friends in Paris!!!!!” the outspoken vocalist added.

The criticism was posted alongside a meme highlighting how banning guns to stop mass shootings was similar to a male severing his own penis to stop rape.

Hughes wrote the students were “playing hooky at the expense of 16 your classmates blood,” and claimed the “protesting and taking days off from school insult the memory of those who were killed and abuse and insult me and every other lover of liberty.”

“It might be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic and disgusting,” the singer wrote.

Hughes received backlash after he asserted France’s gun control laws did nothing to save any of the victims at the Bataclan theater the night of the massacre.

He was subsequently banned from playing at the Paris theater after speaking out against Muslim security staff at the venue he believed may have been involved in coordinating the deadly attack at his show.

Over 130 people died at the Bataclan theater in Paris on November 13, 2015, when numerous Islamic terrorists launched a coordinated attack at an Eagles of Death Metal concert.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Rockledge High School students stage walkout in support of Second Amendment

By: Melonie Holt

Two weeks after students in Central Florida and around the world walked out of class in solidarity with Parkland survivors, another walkout, this time in favor of gun rights, occurred at Rockledge High School.

Some of the students who participated in the walkout said when the movement to honor the victims and survivors of the shooting in Parkland became political, they felt silenced.

“I’m pro-Second Amendment. I wouldn’t mind deeper background checks, of course, but the Second Amendment will not be infringed upon,” said student Anna Delaney.

Many Rockledge High School students participated in the original walkout two weeks ago—but Delaney and Chloe Deaton decided to organize the Friday rally.

The two said they respect the opinions of those who might disagree with them, but they think their beliefs should be respected too.

“I’m just saying that we should not let our rights be taken because someone else does something wrong,” said Deaton.

Delaney said she supports the idea of unidentified, specially trained faculty being allowed to carry guns on campus.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
Re: Flip side of the coin #161367
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This is interesting...

Read this paragraph.

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About 75 students, according to a head count by school administrators, walked onto the school's track carrying the American flag and signs that said "guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "I support the right to bear arms." The event lasted about 20 minutes and then students returned to class.
Then look at this photo:

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A quick headcount shows a lot more that 75 students in that photo. And I doubt they could have those speeches and make that heart in 20 minutes.

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