colt i will excuse you for your lack of knowledge on this subject..since you do not know me or my situation you are spouting off with out all the info needed..just to give you a peek in to my life here goes(the rest of you can peek too im not shy)i am currently 50 yrs old i have already done 25 yrs in the federal govt paying my own paycheck with my tax money i have done 17 yrs in a army uniform and during that time i picked up a stray newspaper motor route or 2 for some extra cash..since the year 2000 i have lost my home to a sheriff sale(thanks to a loss of govt job)and half my supplies and moved my pregnant wife to WV moving in with her mother..just in the last 10 yrs i have been unemployed 3 yrs homeless 2 times and during one of those times had to sell all my weapons (4 handguns 3 shotguns 1 30-30 1 .22 rifle and 1 SKS) just to keep my family off the street and in a hotel(cram 1 mother in law 1 wife 1 toddler 3 cats and 2 dogs in a hotel room) any ammo i have is what i have bought 10 yrs ago.. which doesnt matter much since i have nothing to put it in anyway..i get jealous when i see gear pics from you guys and having 2-3 rifles that cost 1000-1500 each thinking damn i wish i had a job i could afford to throw away that much on weapons..then i remember i did at one time so i just have to wait for my turn to come around again.. any other complaints you would like to voice?