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Retreat Security Myths #101051
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This is an excellent article from Rawles Survivalblog that raises a lot of relevant questions.

You make think to yourself..."Who cares what happens to those survivalists. Think again. The militia will have to face the same problems and overcome them if it intends to wage a war of resistance and liberation.

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Retreat Security Myths,
by Grandy


The following are some of my thoughts about our planning when it comes to preparing retreat defenses. Some will work, others maybe not as well, but I intended it to be motivation for SurvivalBlog readers to start thinking about these issues. This is written mainly from a TEOTWAWKI standpoint and not your typical short term SHTF event. But some of these concepts apply to both situations.

#1: The Location Myth

More often than not, our retreats are in a somewhat secluded location. Rural areas are typically the norm and the further away from built up urban areas the better. But in a TEOTWAWKI situation, the lines between the two will become blurred as people will escape from urban areas and seek out refuge in rural areas. Sometimes it will take a couple of days; others will take weeks and maybe even months. But as supplies start to dwindle in urban areas, you can guarantee people will start looking towards the countryside for additional supplies and places to live. And suddenly your secluded remote area becomes less likely to stay hidden and on the radar so to speak.

Unless one is staying on a deserted island where there is little chance of unwanted visitors, then everyone’s retreat is at risk of being discovered. And in that discovery means interest will be placed. Some may be good, some may be bad, but rest assured, your location will become an area of interest before long no matter where it happens to be. Some less than others, but your secret will never be entirely safe.

So the myth is about the idea that a retreat is completely secluded and will not be found. Everything will be found in due time and explored. As stated before, some will take interest in the location, others will ignore it. OPSEC plays a key in this (and in item #5) about how well your location might be hidden away, but it will never be entirely concealed. And in knowing this, you can plan around the limitations.

Knowing the limitations of location can be a powerful factor in deciding to buy land for a retreat or actually building the structure itself. Things to look for:

How far away from the nearest major city or town is this area?

Are there sufficient avenues of escape as well as avenues of approach?

Is the area likely to be developed in the next 5 years? 10 years? 20 years?

Do you have neighbors and how close are they?

Is this in a known location (i.e. bordering a park, right off a major roadway, within sight of a lake/river shore) and easy to find?

How far off the main lines of “drift” is the location? (Drift is defined as the natural path one would take from point A to point B. Knowing this, will people inadvertently stumble onto your property because you sit in a valley between two mountains?)

And also, how often is your retreat checked before you bug out? Is it in an area where theft can and will occur for valuable (or invaluable as people will steal anything) items and long term food storage? Just because your retreat is away from most populated areas doesn’t mean it cannot be discovered and used without your knowledge. And also squatters might very well be occupying your retreat before you get there. How would you deal with that?

I’ve asked some questions, but the overall point is the fact no location (save our imaginary island in the middle of the ocean) is completely out of the way and can be discovered despite our best efforts. So the myth of a particular location being safer than others is not necessarily true.



#2: The Manpower Assumption

“I have XX amount of bodies in which to plan my defenses.” Okay, good idea in theory, but is that taking into account what you actually have right then and there? For example, you know for a fact you have five families coming to your retreat (let’s just say for argument’s sake it’s a really nice retreat that can sustain all those folks) in the event of TEOTWAWKI. Now are you certain all five families are going to make it? So let’s assume they do for a moment and you plan your defenses. Are you taking into account the sick, lame and injured? The “I have a migraine and cannot perform today” instances? The injuries that can and will happen? Can your defensive plans handle the loss of one or two? Or maybe half in the event of a cold/flu outbreak that affects most of the group?

Now let’s assume only three out of the five families made it and add to your manpower. Are your plans in depth enough to account for the sudden loss of X amount of bodies? Let’s face it, things can and will happen during a TEOTWAWKI situation that prohibits groups from arriving as they should. And knowing this, one should take into account the decrease in manpower that will come. And in preparedness, proper planning is king.

How do you attack these problems? By basing your estimates on knowing who actually will show up. Start at one family and move up to your maximum number. Your defenses should take into account a ten percent rule (ten percent of the manpower will be unavailable for duty due to sick/lame/injured) and still be able to function. In this percentage, round up to the next ten for your real number. (i.e. Sixteen people capable of performing defensive duties and five are out. That’s 31%, so round up to 40%. It’s not an exact science, but should work okay in your situation.)

Plan on removing a selected number of people from the equation and plan your defenses that way instead of going on the assumption everyone will be available for duty as needed. Plus shift work as you will have to post sentries at night. Do your plans take this into account? Nighttime is the enemy and the friend. It is a friend since a lot of folks will not be using higher technology to plan attacks and gives you a time for rest. But it is an enemy as it does provide concealment for attackers and confusion on the part of the defenders. If you are looking at a somewhat well trained adversary (let’s assume they are military trained) and has access to night vision or thermal technology, you are already on the bad side of the equation.

So before you make plans for the maximum number of bodies available for duty, make plans to remove a selected portion of that number just in case. As life happens, so will accidents and bodies not show up like they are supposed to.



#3: The Good Neighbor Myth

“I can depend on my neighbors for help. They are good people.”

One had to be careful when approaching neighbors in a post-TEOTWAWKI situation as they may have become very wary in those times and may have a shoot first identify later mentality. Also, those planning on making contact with neighbors and forming a militia in the aftermath of a TEOTWAWKI situation can be in for a surprise as well. Some folks just won’t go along with the program no matter how well you sell it. They just don’t want to get involved no matter what. So in forming a defensive plan for your retreat and even the local area, several factors need to be taken into consideration.

Don’t plan on outside help. You cannot make defensive arrangements based on the fact X number of families live in the local area and will go along with what you planned for. Sure some will come along, but others will pretty much ignore you and tell you where to get off. We live in a world of opinionated people and some just feel they will be safer on their own rather than in a group. Some neighbors cannot be trusted either. They could have a farm out in the country because they like horses and are your typical sheeple that come around with their hand out. There are several types one should be wary of and it’s best to get to know them beforehand.

Be careful who you bargain/trade with. Even bargaining only goes so far in a post TEOTWAWKI situation. So you are a good neighbor and recognize the fact Family X doesn’t have sufficient arms or ammunition to defend their property. And in knowing more numbers are better than less, you decide to help out. So you give family X a number of Mosin-Nagant rifles and X amount of ammunition in exchange for being your "sentries" on the outer perimeter. However, when someone comes along and offers them the same deal but with better weapons along with partitioning your land, assets and food storage, which one is harder to choose between? Loyalty among neighbors only goes as far as the next meal. Sure you provide neighbors with enough food for a week. They know it’s coming from somewhere and you have it. They want it and what you think are loyal friends suddenly become your adversaries because someone offered them a better deal.

Some will become friends for life, but human nature means some will be jealous of what you have. They envy you because you were prepared and they weren't. They despise you because you have what they don't. They see you in a position of regent because you require certain actions in exchange for whatever your barter is. And suddenly it gets lonely at the top. Just because you are generous enough to give them items to survive doesn't mean they won't turn on you at the drop of a hat. Human nature cannot be changed or predicted.

Be wary of making retreat plans with neighbors in mind until it is absolutely certain they will be the best choice to depend on.

#4: Critical Thinking in Defense

“I don’t need to defend this or that area” or “I have to defend everything” train of thought. Based on manpower (or the lack thereof) one must consider what is critical and needs defending and what can be sacrificed before mounting a counterattack or successful defense. In looking over your defenses, think like the opposition. What areas are critical for my continued survival and have to be defended? What areas are not so critical and need to be defended as manpower dictates? What areas are not important enough and I should plan on covering them as a last resort without stretching my manpower out too thin?

The military calls it the CARVER Matrix. They use it to determine what areas are vulnerable and which ones can be lost without losing mission effectiveness. The acronym stands for Criticality, Accessibility, Recuperability, Vulnerability, Effect and Recognizability. It uses a numbering system that will aid in the highest level of survival to the lowest. So let’s look at a makeshift CARVER Matrix and apply is against a long term survival retreat. I’ll use a water well as an example.

Criticality: Highly critical as survival is dependent on a consistent water source
Accessibility: The wellhead itself is somewhat easily accessed depending on type
Recuperability: The well cannot be replaced easily if it is destroyed
Vulnerability: Highly vulnerable as errant gunfire can damage components
Effect: High impact on mission accomplishment as one cannot go long without water
Recognizability: Not as recognizable as other structures

And in using the CARVER Matrix to determine defensive priorities, we can include the water well and nine other items. These are just ten randomly selected items I grabbed off the top of my head and are not an inclusive list.

And, in sorting the data, we have arranged the defensive priority from highest to the lowest.

Going highest to lowest in terms of survival, the highest number is defended first and the lowest is last. So our well would be first priority and the avenues of approach the last. Again, this is something I threw together and is by no means gospel. But one can see the idea behind the CARVER Matrix and how important it can be in planning defenses of a retreat. These numbers will change as location changes at your retreat as water is far more valuable in the Southwest than say the Southeast. Only you can determine what can be lived with or lived without, but at the same time, look at it from the opposition standpoint. Normally hungry people will ignore a well and go straight for the food. Or ignore the generator and go for your weapons. Is electrical power highly critical to your survival or are you off the grid enough to survive without it? And will that generator run without fuel? So what is more important? The generator or the fuel that runs it?

The spreadsheet I put together is assuming the water and ammo supplies will be inside your housing structure which would be defended. And this is why they are lower on the matrix than the crops in the fields. Fields are highly accessible which makes them a larger priority. Lots of folks plan on defending avenues of approach, but forget about the house behind them. Maintaining a watch on avenues of approach is one thing. Providing defensive forces to cover an avenue of approach is different.

I would say use the CARVER Matrix as a guide when determining your defenses. It’s generic enough for anyone to use, but specific enough for individual needs. But you have to determine what you can and cannot live without before applying it to a retreat setting.



#5: The Hiding in Plain Sight Myth

Which more or less goes with the location myth but in reality is its own portion. However, some plan on being low key enough to avoid detection. But this is a myth as signs of civilization are always apparent to those who look close enough. Take your bug out cabin in the mountains for example. You have your cabin and enough land to grow enough crops to live comfortably, water from a well, game animals in the local area that can be harvested, etc. Nice location, but you want to keep is a secret. So you go to great extents to conceal the fact it’s being “lived in.” But there are always telltales of occupation. Take this for example…

You move into your cabin and the first thing you do is clean the cobwebs from the windows so you can see better. Maybe sweep the porch, grab that plastic bag that blew in from Lord only knows where and put it in your garbage or bury it, update your woodpile and replace the old tarp on top. Other than that, you practice good light and litter discipline, good OPSEC and rarely venture outside unless you have to. But what signs have you left?

Clean windows are a sign of occupation as is a swept porch. Minor debris and whatnot in a yard is to be expected in an unoccupied location. The hole you dug up will leave signs for a couple of weeks until the soil settles back down and the minor remains are washed away. Your newly cut woodpile will leave sawdust and the wood is a different color as it hasn’t been weathered. Plus there is a distinctive smell of freshly cut wood that lingers. The tarp is new and not frayed as an unoccupied location might be. You are also creating a path in the grass and nearby forest pointing to signs of recent activity.

The point is, no matter what we do to try and hide in plain sight, there is nothing we ever do that cannot hide the fact our retreat is occupied. You can limit the amount of activity, but there is nothing that can be done to “hide in plain sight.”



#6: The Technological and Armament Superiority Myth

“I have this doodad that is the best on the market and will always work!” or “My gun is better than your gun because it’s superior!”

Glock lovers unite as this will be the only weapon still firing at D+15 post TEOTWAWKI! Or so the myth goes and the owners will claim. “Yeah, my pistol will last forever because it’s a Glock!” or insert firearm of choice here. Whether it’s a 1911, Glock, Springfield M1A, AKM, tacticool M4gery, Remington 870…weapon type doesn’t matter. Far too often the reasoning is given for buying said firearm(s) because of the longevity of the design and the parts not breaking. Now I will give Gaston Glock his due when he created a seriously durable pistol, but it is not the “end all be all” of the pistol world as some will claim. Same goes for 1911s, Berettas, SIG-Sauers, CZ, Hi-Points or any other pistols that have been or are manufactured today. Some will last longer than others, but let’s face it; nobody has ever made an unbreakable firearm. How does this translate into a retreat environment? Simple, technology and high speed doodads are not going to keep you alive. They will enhance your efforts to survive, but alone they cannot keep you from getting killed by the ranging hordes.

And in turn, it doesn’t matter about the superiority of your pistol/rifle/shotgun design if you fail to defend your retreat properly and/or do not place the emphasis in the right areas. You can have 100,000 rounds of Black Hills match ammo for your Springfield M25 White Feather and it does you little good when your retreat is overrun. The armament superiority myth comes in full force when the discussion of AK vs. AR-15 vs. M1A vs. FAL vs. SKS vs. HK91 vs. Mini-14 comes out. “My gun is better than your gun, my gun’s better than yours!” (And I bet none of you can read that without having the Ken-L-Ration dog food jingle stuck in your head for at least 10 minutes.)

But anyway, people have a comfortable feeling because they have placed their faith in the ability of their firearms. The death dealing, super rifle concept still has limitations and we often get wrapped up in the debate of how great it is to ignore the limitations of the system itself. And ignoring those simple rules of the limitations of the system itself can be disastrous when we need it the most. Overall, firearms are a mechanical device which falls under the following principles:

* It can break
* It will break
* Fixing it will not be easy
* These things will happen when Murphy decides it’s best and this is typically when you need it the most

Not to say firearms are not a vital tool in the defense of a retreat, but the lesson to be learned is “don’t get complacent with your system and ignore the limitations of same.” A good case in point is the military continuing to put iron sights on rifles and not relying completely on scopes. The scopes these days are pretty reliable, but they can (and will) break, fixing them isn’t easy and too often it happens in the middle of a gunfight. A whiz bang, super duper precision rifle capable of MOA accuracy at a thousand meters suddenly becomes pretty limited when that high dollar scope breaks and you didn’t buy iron sights. All firearms have limitations in some form or other.

The same can be said of any technology we use, no matter how primitive it might be. Now I’m not one of those that thinks we should be back to basics on everything, but we often rely on technology to make our retreats run. And in that reliance, we have no backups to the critical systems. Or we lack the knowledge to repair the systems and/or they are too complex to be repaired easily. We end up placing too much faith in technology and not enough in our brainpower and understanding of the systems needed to survive. Sure enough, we may know how to fix things, but can we do without them and go back to basics at our retreat? Do we have the capability to get water when our well breaks? Is our retreat packed away with the spare parts needed to repair our technology if and when it breaks? Do we have secondary and alternate systems in place if and when our items break? Do I need to preposition critical repair items and risk their theft or do I bring them in when I bug out?

In a retreat setting and in a defensive situation, be wary to not be too reliant on technology to survive. When planning defenses and security, take technology out of the equation and see how your plans may change. Technology should enhance your defenses, not replace them.

Overall, I’ve thrown out some questions everyone should be asking themselves when it comes to retreats and retreat security. Having a well stocked and fortified retreat is the warm safety blanket of most preparedness minded individuals. It’s a bedrock principle of the survivalist movement and something we all hope to have one day. But just like our technology and our weapons, a retreat is not without limitations. But in asking yourself some of the questions I’ve posed here today, you can help limit the problems that might arise.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Good read ConSigCor

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Yep, excellent... I hope all read this...


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Here's some more food for thought...

Survival Security Tactics--In All Locations, by Roy K.
By James Wesley, Rawles on May 25, 2011

I see little difference between a SHTF situation and a TEOTWAWKI situation in terms of self defense. The mission is identical; protect our family from predators whether it be for a month or years. Same challenges, same tactics, same end result. I will concede that the longer chaos prevails, then the greater desperation and violence we could expect. But, may I submit that if forced to use lethal force, a bullet doesn't know the difference between a killer, rapist or looter. The end result is the same. No matter where you live.

The variables and subsequent permutations of survival security tactics are endless when such a broad subject is addressed, although the psychology of mob/group behavior is unlikely to alter. For this reason, I've tried to capture the probable situations we might encounter in a very general manner based upon the adverse behavior and intentions of mobs and how we should/could take advantage of such behavior. The tactics herein though, are purely that of a Marine, i.e., do whatever it takes, with whatever we've got, to get the job done.

To rely solely on a retreat's remoteness as the foremost and most critical factor for lengthy survival safety could be a mistake unless, perhaps, the site is so far removed that not even the locals are very familiar with the area. Having said that, location is only the first entry in the survival equation. The second, and equally important entry in the equation, is to place a defensive value of the sites tactical suitability. Bluntly put, if we cannot defend our retreat for a few hours or a day, there is no point in trying to exist in the middle of nowhere and storing food for six months sustenance. Thus, remoteness, of and in itself, is a big plus only so long as it can be defended. Critical natural terrain and site conditions and/or lack of a tactical defense plan can offset the remote advantage.

Most of us live in houses that, as one blogger here once said, are "defensive disasters". He was right! Even though my house is constructed of concrete blocks, I'm a well trained US Marine, know how to use (and own) firearms, it's still not defensible, to a point.

Major factors that would dominate the outcome of any attempted hostile entry to my home are mob psychology, probable scenarios and my defensive and offensive tactics. The type of construction materials used in the construction of my house, while interesting, would not, in my opinion, be a determining factor. I submit that the same holds true for you too. It's obvious that a determined, trained and professionally-led attacking military force, with a siege mentality, would prevail no matter where we live. But that's not a probable scenario, so it's not really worth considering. It's interesting that military planners of major conflict engagements, both offensive and defensive, consider many of the same factors that we, of necessity, must also consider. If on the defensive for example, the Commander will have a well thought-out defensive plan, and will take advantage of any weakness and execute a counter attack. The substantial differences of course, are scale, skill and discipline.

Here are some, but not all, significant tactical survival factors we must consider, not necessarily in the order of their importance:
1. Mob psychology
2. Human assets, number, skill level, mindset and determination
3. Site location, accessibility, visual prominence and neighbors
4. Site terrain, topography, obstacles, field of fire and cover/concealment
5. Situational awareness, surveillance and detection
6. Planning and rehearsal, (such as field exercises)

Dissecting the first tactical survival factor, the mob psychology/mentality. This causes people to succumb to violence, and dangerous, extreme behavior in groups, large or small encourages anonymity. ("It's not my fault, everyone was doing it...") The group encourages individuals to behave in ways they wouldn't in a normal environment. And, they believe they cannot be held responsible for acts that cannot be traced back to them. Such groups are likely to engage in looting "without any consequences" due to political chaos or a law enforcement vacuum in the aftermath of natural or man-made disasters. And, therein lies the crux of mob psychology:"without any consequences". The last thing the group want is resistance or painful consequences of any kind.

In a civil unrest situation hoodlums look for easily accessible, vulnerable "easy-pickings". They'll bypass pockets of resistance. In the [1992] Rodney King Trial Verdict riots in Los Angeles and it's suburbs, the only structures that were spared from active looting by large gangs were some stores owned by armed Korean Americans. Their bold stand discouraged large gangs of hoodlum looters, who have a highly developed sense of self preservation, and they moved on. Wal-Marts and other large chain stores were ransacked. Many homes and businesses were easy marks to loot however with absolutely no consequences or risk to the hoodlums; those were all ransacked.

The looters were discouraged by resistance. Some examples of this can be seen in YouTube videos titled LA Riots-Don't steal from Koreans, and LA Riots-Looters Gone Wild. To be unable or unwilling to defend the family home and allow them access to roam the house is especially dangerous. My conclusion is that I must take advantage of the weaknesses of mob psychology. Also, at the very least I must present what appears to be a determined, armed defense. And, if that doesn't work, then I'll shoot. I have no other option.

Tactical survival factor number two, human assets, number, skill level, mindset and determination. By human assets, number, I mean how many persons are available and prepared to carry a weapon and stand exposed, outside, guarding the house in a professional manner. (Note: This move is entirely dependent on security factor number four) The primary mission is to avoid shooting anyone, but instead, intimidate and warn interlopers your home is well defended, to keep them as far away as possible, and to psychologically encourage them to move on. This cannot be done as effectively from the front door of a house. The threat would not look as ominous to the hoods. Two armed defenders, boldly standing guard, look a great deal more dangerous than one. If instead of leaving, the interlopers advance in a hostile manner and you believe your life and family are threatened, you and they have run out of peaceful options. The use of firearms, mindset, skill and determination is your option.

To be able and competent to shoot another person will require you to mentally practice that option. mindset comes first. This isn’t difficult. Before every practice and show the Blue Angels sit down at a conference table, close their eyes and all together fly their mission mentally. The flight leader gives the command vocally for every evolution they fly. The pilot’s hands move precisely as if they were flying their aircraft. This is how they prepare to ensure an automatic response to the leaders commands in the air. Their brain responds exactly as it will when they’re actually flying later. They’ve pre-set it. It doesn’t know the difference!

Since the brain cannot tell the difference between imagining a nasty confrontation or experiencing a real situation, we can mentally pre-set our brain to cope automatically in a variety of situations, locations and conditions. What this amounts to is using our imagination to resolve unwanted situations before they ever occur. Actively imagine specific possible situations: imagine yourself resolving them and then visualize a positive outcome.

There is another aspect to mental preparation that could easily help you avoid an ugly confrontation. After you’ve pre-set your brain when and how to respond, and to what degree, your demeanor will reflect your quiet confidence. Once you’ve acquired “MINDSET”, a predator will not mistake you for an easy mark. You won’t look like a push over. This may give you a better than even chance to be left alone. This is a far better outcome than being involved in bloodshed. By repetitive visualization again and again in resolving the threat, when, or if, deadly force is ever necessary, you will have programmed your brain to shoot without hesitation and without moral scruples or reservations. You will have already thought about the morality of shooting another and determined that if you must, you must.

Mindset has saved the lives of thousands of military and civilian police forces when seconds count. I was trained in the Marine Corps to commit extreme carnage on other human beings without hesitation. I play the hand I'm dealt, whether I like it or not. I’ll scoot if I can, but if I can’t I’ve already pre-set my brain that if you threaten my life, or my family, I’ll shoot without hesitation or second thought; I will kill you. It’s a done deal. This is my mindset. Without this firm, unwavering commitment, my weapon would be useless scrap iron. I submit the bottom line is this: if you’re not willing to mentally and physically train, yours would be too.

But, what if they're armed? I've already run through that probable scenario and what option I will take. mindset at work. So, I must ask you what is your option if looters challenge your several warnings and are advancing in a hostile manner? They may be armed, unreasonable, untrained and undisciplined. In my opinion, that makes them even more dangerous. Again, what option do you have other than to take care of business and shoot. And, keep shooting until they've left your property. It's not possible to negotiate with evil people and their evil intentions on the spur of chaos. You have something they want and believe they have the necessary force to take it. When you're unwilling or unable to use lethal force, you have nothing to bargain with! And, if you let em' get right up in your face, it's too late. BTW, if you're unwilling to use lethal force when necessary, it's my opinion you shouldn't have any firearms on site. Otherwise, when they ransack your house, you'll also be arming the bad guys.

Tactical survival factor number three: Site location, accessibility and visual prominence just about speaks for itself. Site location safety will have a direct relationship to time. Remote locations have both good and bad points. One factor seems probable; the further from population centers, the fewer groups seeking loot. At least, initially. In the sense that a remote location should not experience difficulties in the early days of chaos simply because other properties that are close to population centers will be more convenient to ransack with less effort and without any consequences. I foresee the destructive spread of these bands to be something like an explosion with the predators gradually spreading further and further away from the population center until the most distant properties require more effort than the potential gain.

The downside to a remote location are: few, if any, basic utility services available (most of which are nice, but not absolutely essential), medical assistance may be distant and difficult to reach safely, neighborhood mutual aid may be uncertain or delayed during chaotic periods. You might also not have more than one capable shooter in residence. Two or more shooters alters the equation entirely; for the good. For long term safety, the more trained shooters, the better.

If, instead of living at a remote location you live in a typical suburban location, and plan to remain there if the SHTF, you gain some and lose some. The most important gain is the number of people, that are trained, armed, able and willing to protect the neighborhood. That alone is a huge force multiplier. Offset, in part, by the greater number of participants in an out of control mob. Nevertheless, they'll behave and react the same as any other mob intent on looting. Mob psychology, any more than human psychology will not change. They'll be after the easy pickings, initially in large shopping malls stealing everything from household appliances to televisions, clothing, jewelry, food; whatever can simply be picked up and carried away, with impunity. When the riots spread to suburbia, the same mob psychology rules of resistance and defense would apply. As you saw in the news video clips, the Koreans were left alone. I mention the Los Angeles riots, which were localized to only a few square miles reinforce mob psychology bent and how the Korean's coped, successfully. The size of the mobs became huge because they erupted in congested, urban neighborhood areas. Shopping malls and suburban residential neighborhoods were all within easy walking distance. The mobs formed very quickly. National Guard and Marines were deployed as soon as it was possible to quell the riots, rape and looting. This was not a widespread SHTF situation. But as history shows, we can expect to be repeated.

A SHTF event is an entirely different animal. In that circumstance a peculiar situation would rapidly develop in my neighborhood. We would, without any pre-planning or lengthy discussion, band together and form a defensive perimeter. In the absence of police, we would take the law into our own hands for self protection and instinctively form a loosely organized, armed group. Call it "Tribal Psychology", if you will. It's my belief that it would be repeated throughout the land and remain in force until the people were convinced the government was back in control. And, not before.

Every neighborhood has a variety of skills that could be put to use to the defensive tribe's advantage. If the chaos were to be prolonged, eventually, some degree of local law and order with penalties for infractions would be discussed, modified and accepted by the residents. Depending on how long the SHTF condition existed, only the fittest and most prepared would survive. For a while.

Tactical survival factor number four, "Site terrain, obstacles, fields of fire and cover and concealment" demand attention, especially in large, remote sites. Terrain, topography and obstacles dominate fields of fire, cover and concealment. If for example, your house is in a dense forest with trees very close, the house may be difficult to see but predators can use the trees as cover and concealment as they approach it. In that instance the trees are definitely not your friend. The foundation of a good defensive position is to keep the opposition as far away as the terrain allows with good fields of defensive fire. Marines call it "a killing ground" because that is exactly what it becomes. Ideally, the site is large enough to clear some trees. If that isn't an option, then guard dogs can be used to give warning. The downside is that barking dogs are always a sign of human habitation. But, I don't see a realistic alternative. As always, I wouldn't attempt to raise a defense from inside a house unless it was specially built to defend. That means you will have to construct some exterior fighting positions for your cover. In suburbia, where terrain would not be a factor, the neighbors' firepower when added to yours will convince interlopers it's not a good idea to press their luck in that neighborhood.

"Terrain" considers the natural features, configuration and topography of your site. Obstacles address man made and natural obstructions or impediments that diminish line of sight or hinder free, easy movement. Does your house or property:

* Back-up to a very steep hill or cliff
* Have a body of water adjacent
* Have any kind of perimeter fence
* Have a steep, but navigable incline in front, back or adjacent
* Have a twisty access road
* Have an easily an access road that is easily found and identifiable with evidence of frequent use
* Have an access road viewable by neighbors
* Have a useful field of fire towards the access road or in any other direction
* Have any exterior close-in blind spots due to obstructions
* Have any cover and/or concealment that an interloper could use
* Abut other occupied properties
* Have game tracks suitable for your use
* Have telephone or electric lines leading to your property
* Have any exterior walls without a window.


If you answered yes or no to any of these then a plan should be made and executed, to either negate it's value to an intruder or capitalize and improve it to your advantage. As you can see, the permutations are endless. Assigning a priority to adjust, remove, improve or construct a terrain feature or obstruction should consider the rule that we must try to keep intruders as far away as is possible with little, or no cover and maximum field of fire. I've mentioned that no house is defensible and not to try too impress intruders or defend from the inside of the house. It's a simple, relatively inexpensive matter to construct fighting positions at strategic points from concrete block with the cells filled with concrete and then camouflage it. We do not fight fair. If we can somehow find a way to channel intruders down a path or to area that has minimum, or no cover, then we got em'. Barbed wire [and even thorny bushes or vines] can be very useful in that regard. With good tactics consistent with your property's terrain and obstacles you have tilted the odds decidedly in your favor. It's good start. If you are uncertain about how to do this then it would be prudent to get some expert advice; since failure is not an option.

Tactical survival factor number five, "Situational awareness, surveillance and detection". If your retreat is out in the boonies, then you'll have to learn and practice covert scouting and surveillance day and night utilizing the game trails and natural pathways on your property and find safe observation sites with concealment and good escape routes. That means you'll have to know every wrinkle and obstacle on your property. But, you know, its fun and interesting discovering how wonderful nature can be on your own piece of land. By instituting a round the clock scouting schedule, if that’s possible, you'll be in a better position to detect intruders, warn them if that’s your choice, and if necessary, fight them knowing what you're up against. Without surveillance and detection you may have given the advantage of surprise to the predators. Private warning signals would be most appropriate utilizing gun shots, bells, police whistles or any other device that could be heard from your scouting perimeter to your retreat house warning of an event that requires their immediate attention. That might mitigate some of the loss of surprise. After giving, or while giving a warning, the scout would have to beat feet, post haste, to shooting positions close to the house. That calls for physical effort. Maybe a lot of effort. No surprise there!

A suburbanite, in a similar case, has the advantage of numbers to spread the load of surveillance, detection and opposition. There seems to no doubt that there will be very little time between detection and invasion, thus visual armed opposition must be immediately available, if not already on standby.

Finally, Tactical survival factor number six, "Planning and rehearsal". The critical aspect in planning is to imagine any and all possible disruptive events that might occur; then conceive a plan to correct the deficiency. A sort of "what if this happens…..what am I gonna do about it"! Gosh, here we go again, back to mindset. By imagining possible problems, thinking the problem over, sooner or later you're going to figure out a way to successfully resolve it. If, or when the problem arises, you already have a solution. I'm a great one for making punch lists, which is a list of "To Do" items, problems that need a fix, actions that should be taken and reminders. Like my anniversary date! I submit that its not easy, but its quite important you start a punch list. Make a separate page for each major item that's important for your safety and survival. Then, start listing potential problem areas that might occur in each scenario. Scratch them off as you complete each one. It's like solving a big problem; which is really just a lot of smaller problems in a paper bag. Reach in the bag and solve the small problems, one at a time. Pretty soon the bag is empty and the big problem no longer exists. It's really that simple. My dad taught me that. When the next nasty problem arises, as it will, you'll not be overwhelmed and glad you know how to solve it.

Rehearsals can be challenging, but fun if you involve the whole family. Even hot, sweaty troops enjoy field exercises. First, define the problem so the whole family understands exactly what it is. Then, tell them your solution and how you want it handled. Now, rehearse and practice the solution in real time. Set goals. Make it a timed rehearsal to see how long it takes to complete. Award points based upon excellence, speed, ingenuity and meeting the necessary requirements. Make them physically and mentally challenging. Take a break. Have a picnic. Rehearse another. Give prizes! The old adage "the harder you work, the luckier you get" applies. A Marine would say "the harder we train in peace, the less blood we shed in war". They're both absolutely true.

In suburbia, I doubt rehearsals would be welcome. I've discussed, in a fashion, how we'd establish a defensive perimeter with three experienced, armed neighbors. It will probably take an incident that the television news show video of mobs and ensuing riots for my neighbors to get serious. It's my belief that my shooter friends unconcern at this time will be balanced by their determination and expertise when SHTF. Semper fi to my brothers.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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More from Rawles. Here is how one neighborhood did it.

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Our Community-Wide SHTF Contingency Plan, by T.M.


We are located in the Southeastern United States. There are nine families in our "block", with the next neighborhood or community more than two miles away. I refer to it as a block because a major highway runs through it. The only dwellings on the major highway are three houses and one country store. The rest are on a "U" shaped secondary road that starts across from the store on the main highway and ends, back on the main Highway, 1 mile east, at a cross road. We are all contained in one square mile within that "U".

I should give you a little information about the location of our small neighborhood: When I use the term "neighborhood", it’s more like a community. Of the nine dwellings, the closest family unit consists of three houses side by side, (3 of the 4 buildings on the main road) and are kin to each other. Every one of the other houses are approximately 1/4 to 1 mile apart, each dwelling having acreage ranging from 10 to 60 acres. All but the store are accessible through the woods to each other. Surrounding our, "community", is approximately 5,000 acres of public forest land with an old but accessible fire tower lookout on a hill that would be a workable sniper position and place to coordinate and raise an alarm. If anyone ever sees a red flag go up, it means someone is approaching from the North, yellow, South, orange, East, and purple, West. Green is the all clear. Radios are being purchased to supplement the initial flag system.

The only way in or out of what we, as a community, decided to call, "the defensive zone", (which I will detail, later) is by one major highway, running East to West and one secondary road, (the "U" shaped road), which comes to a crossroads at the major highway. This major road leads to two major metropolitan cities. The secondary road leads to a couple of smaller cities. I believe this secondary road is going to be a major strategic checkpoint for keeping out the individuals and mobs that were lucky enough to escape the cities mentioned above, from entering and scavenging our defensive zone. The planning started with myself and and the owner of the local country store and campground. His business relies on the hunters coming in from all over the region. So, as he and I discussed, we already foresee a problem from the "regulars" that come in every year to hunt.

After reading an article in SurvivalBlog.com titled, Survival Security Tactics--In All Locations, by Roy K., we discussed organizing a small meeting after store hours to discuss setting up a community wide defensive zone, (if and when the SHTF or TEOTWAWKI), that was going to be not only defensible but prosperous long enough for the country to get back to some form of organization. We already meet at his store on Saturdays for a community watch program. We live so far outof town and and isolated that "Burglary by U-Haul" is already a very real threat. One neighbor had his whole house emptied with a U-Haul backed up to the door. Meanwhile, a roll back trailer was used to pull his entire shed, with 4-wheelers and lawn equipment in it, onto its bed and drive away with it. Another neighbor ¾-mile down the road saw the U-Haul and rollback go by but didn’t think anything of it at the time. Later, the so-called "police investigation" determined that the shed had been dragged onto a roll back and a dual wheel truck had backed up to the door.

We purposely left the children out of the meeting for fear that they would brag to their classmates that we were "playing army" or something to that effect. We pointed a web browser at SurvivalBlog and I started the meeting by reading the entire article aloud. When I was finished, several of the men had taken notes and were asking very relevant questions. What we finally came up with, (after four hours of discussion and re-reading the article), was that we, as a community needed a plan. We decided on ranks, so to speak, and also took up a collection to purchase two way radios for each family and we already have three members with ham radios.

We also decided, based on the article, which house was best defensible by line of sight and distance and how to get everyone to it in case of perimeter collapse. We came up with a plan to "build" a compound zone or safe zone and post guards at each entrance.

One of the hardest things to decide was who we let in, (if anyone) if there is a TEOTWAWKI with a Golden Horde pouring out of the cities. There were some that wanted just their brothers and sisters and their children, to others that wanted their whole extended families and assorted friends to be let in. After a pretty heated discussion about being able to sustain only a certain number of people for a certain amount of time, we decided that if someone’s family came and had something to contribute and were able to feed themselves and their children, (meaning all we would have to provide was security and lodging), would be considered for entrance. Those with nothing, but wanting us to feed, house and protect them because they had not planned ahead would be turned away.

The consensus of the group was that if the family members of those that had to be turned away had a choice to go with them, but that was the bottom line. As it explained in the article, I believe everyone understood that either we all survive together, or we split up and maybe end up dying separately. Since we all decided to start buying and pooling our canned goods and long term storage foods, would we have enough to share. We were careful to take the time to decide where our food sources were to be stored based on perishable versus non-perishables and concealment. We have all started vegetable gardens and instructed to retain any non-hybrid seeds that we can for storage. The subject of seeds from “store bought” produce was raised. It was explained that in many cases the produce that you buy has been hybridized and the seeds saved from these plants will not germinate or have poor yields. I ordered non-hybrid seeds from The Seed Savers Exchange.

Two neighbors and I have deep wells for fresh water supply, as well as chlorine tablets and Clorox. We worked out, (and are still working out the minor details), a water rationing system based on the number of people in each household and special needs.

We touched a little on pets, but mostly on livestock. Four of the families have chickens, two have horses and a milk cow, and I have chickens, quail, turkey, goats and pasture. Also discussed was the possibility that one or all of us may have to take out what we deem threats to our "own little city”, and agreed that if it had to be done to save the lives of our families and friends, it had to be done. In the end we compared what each of us have now and what we need. We have already started the collecting and storing process, and by the beginning of July, we are going to start practicing setting up the perimeters and guards.

What we have done is create our own “safe zone” or independent town. We have our sons (and a few daughters), cutting out a network of trails to and from each other’s houses. The younger ones, 8-11, are under the impression that they are for paintball games and the older boys know what the trails are actually for and are kind of “supervising”. Also, the hunters of the group are mapping the game trails and I have built a pistol and rifle range on my forty acres to get together on Sunday afternoons to practice with our primary, "SHTF" weapons, which consist mainly of .308 hunting rifles (at least one of each in every family) and a few 9mm pistols, and one bolt-action .50 BMG. Several others have AR-15, FN-FAL, and SKS semi-auto rifles

I ordered and received topographical maps in just a few minutes from the USGS. I suggest anyone working on a survival or bug-out plan, get the maps needed for your area or where you intend on bugging out to. They show in detail, elevation, accessible roads, rivers and streams.

The hardest part of the discussion was, if we had any casualties, where were they to be buried. I believe we came to an agreement that they would be laid to rest in an old pre-Civil war graveyard that is almost in the middle of our ”compound”. We decided that if we had to bug-out, everyone was given a laminated map, each with a different route, so that if anyone survived we could rendezvous and regroup.

I suggest that if you and your family have not made a plan, you do so now. Time is running out. If I had not taken the time to read the aforementioned SurvivalBlog article, I would probably still be sitting in from of the television instead of implementing a plan. If nothing else, you will get to know your neighbors a lot better and find the ones that you can trust to be there for you and you for them, when the time comes, and it is coming!

Thanks for the information your blog provides. It is invaluable to those who should, and will practice it. It might just keep you and yours alive.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861

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