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http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143047 Is a rebellion possible in the near future?
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Just reading everything that's going on the Federal Government trying to grab all the power it can, ignoring the Constitution and the states now trying to push back with different laws to oppose the Feds are we getting close to a full fleged rebellion?
The people are more divided now than ever and there just seems to be a lot of hate on both sides it just seems everything is just heading toward some little spark to set it off.
Didn't the current administration say don't let a good crisis go to waste.
Is a rebellion possible in the near future?
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Except for the occaisional unbalanced crazy attacking thye Pentagon, 99.9% pure Blowhard. They're all going to do, but none actually make the overt act.
Since without the government I have no income, I'll remain an American
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I don't think there'd be another state rebellion against the federal government, if that's what you mean. The civil war pretty much proved that the national government is supreme and unbeatable, etc., etc.
Do I think we're likely to see another Oklahoma City Bombing and other anti-government terrorist attack events in the near future? Yes, 100% sure.
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The States would never rebel in a million years. Without all the Federal money they get for all their little pet projects, they'd never get elected to office in the first place.
The State governments are just as bad as the Federal government is...it's just that you don't hear about it as much. It doesn't sell on the national level, which is what the media is all about.
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I just hope people understand that we LEOs are the same as them. We are not the enemy. We also might agree with some of their positions.
People, please register to vote and VOTE. Do this before you decide to break laws and harm others. Get others to vote. We have the power within legal means. We just need to vote.
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By definition, most Americans are "in the middle" so your point is lost on me. And making the blanket statements that they are Libertarians is wrong. It's not a political party, they are informal gatherings with a common basic belief in reeling in government. You'll find very many Republicans, unaffiliated and even Democrats in that boat.
I've been to a Tea Party. I was the ONLY 'liberal', there besides a few media folk. Their platform, or the general ideas behind those who spoke were "libertarian notions", while at the same time most disavowed ALL the current political parties as dis-functional. To wit, I can't say I disagree.
My argument is that it's our own fault. This is a democracy. We get the government we deserve. If our leaders are corrupt, it is only because moronically ignorant voters keep re-electing them.
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I don't know what you mean by "real" but a massive government takeover is still in the works and dangerously close to happening. That's real enough for me.
I mean that without a Public Option, this isn't 'real' reform. Citizens should be able to collectively pool their risk in a non-profit government backed fund, that pays 100% of claims, wherein a valid Dr. prescribes a procedure, medicine, or therapy.
I really don't understand why people are SO protective of the Medical Insurance Sector... These people were in the top 5 earners last year, and the ONLY thing they provide 'you', in order to make 'their' profits is "denied claims". If you think these companies care about you and your health, you're mistaken.
We aren't going to fix what's wrong our system until we provide FREE general screenings, wellness check ups, and vaccinations. Far too many are getting the most expensive care (in the ER) possible, and then not paying their bill. We actually have universal care now, it is just really expensive, and delivered too late to be utilized effectively.
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Then you know full well that they do air more than one opinion.
Oh, I forgot, the ARE "Fair & Balanced", it's in their title, so it must be true...
Except that they admit openly, that they aren't "news" most of the time, but rather commentators who have every right to express their 'opinion(s)', which I agree. But let's not kid ourselves, Fox News 'leans hard right', most of the time, even during 'news' hours.
I watch because I'd rather listen to people who I disagree with, and the arguments they present. It forces me to think.
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For now, they couldn't get all they wanted in one shot, it seldom happens that way. But it isn't a law yet so we don't know what all it will or won't do.
It WILL be Law, but it won't be as effective as it should or could have been.
And this is the genius behind the GOP strategy- demand cutbacks in the bill in the name of bi-partisanship, then crow about how the program didn't fix everything.
We have the inalienable right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness...
Why doesn't that mean that We have a Duty to protect Health which = Life...?
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The problem is that about 3/4th of the population doesn't agree that it is in their best interest, and it a major issue that will effect all of our lives, or deaths, not some minor polling concern.
That number is completely meaningless. Democrats WON the last election, and thus ARE the elected Leadership. They will be ultimately judged by the fruit they produce, or lack thereof.
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That isn't the way remember it, public opinion shifted when people realized that it was taking longer than American Idol and the left propagandized it on a daily basis.
I was quite plugged-in to Americans' feelings about invading Iraq. We WERE overwhelming in favor of the Afghan thing, but the same can NOT be said about removing Saddam.
It was a 50/50 thing at best:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular... January_2003
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True, we don't vote on war efforts but it is part of the military process, people sign up knowing it's a possibility. We didn't sign up for some government bureaucrat to decide what health care we are entitled to.
Okay, so you're okay with a 'profit seeking' company doing so... Why?
What makes you think that if things go badly for you health wise, that they won't boot you to the curb???
Why shouldn't EVERYONE be entitled to quality health care, regardless of how rich or poor they are?
*I am a spinal cord injury patient, paralyzed from the upper chest down. Private health insurance would cost $950 a month, with a $250 deductible, AND it wouldn't cover anything related to my pre-existing condition. Could YOU afford to pay over $1000 a month for a check-up?
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I doubt that they are lost, where else will they go? No, they are just learning about incrementalism. The frog jumps out of the pot if the water is too hot.
I was referencing the President's approval ratings, at the moment.
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You should have read some of the comments on that blog. Where exactly are the tax "cuts"?
Here:
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Why do libs always do this? Can you cite some data instead of throwing out opinion articles and blogs?
There's data there... Contradict the numbers, don't attack the source.
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We were discussing guns, remember? And the Taliban were quite busy while we enjoyed Slick Willie's peace plan. Remember?
Willie got his slicked at work, I remember a lot being made of that.
I don't recall anyone trying to take my guns. Although I will concede that he did sign the 'assault weapons ban' into Law. Which I'm sure could be argued as an assault on the 2nd amendment, then again maybe should be allowed to own tanks and fully automatic .50 cals.
My original point however was that everyone was going nuts buying both ammo and guns, fearing Obama was gonna institute massive changes. They haven't...
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...then again maybe should be allowed to own tanks and fully automatic .50 cals...
We can in AZ, just need the Class III license.
And plenty of cash, of course.
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We can in AZ, just need the Class III license.
Yep, and we can here, too.
God bless the free states. But of course, we'd be freer if we didn't have to pay that NFA tax.
I'm all for the extensive background checks, but get rid of that fee.
