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IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151097
02/03/2010 10:23 AM
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The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151098
02/03/2010 11:01 AM
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how come they can have 14 inch barrel and we cant have anything less than 18?


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Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151099
02/03/2010 11:54 AM
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The massas always have better shit than the slaves...

Funny, though - in Canukistan the minimum barrel on a shotgun is 14", I think


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Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151100
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I don't know exactly why, but the feds really have a love affair with those 14" barrel 12g Remingtons. They run the guns with regular full size buttstocks so they are still not really all that small. Benelli came out with 14" versions of their shotguns just to compete for the .gov contracts.

Regardless of the law, I pretty much don't want a shotgun with a tube that is much longer or shorter than 20".


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Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151101
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how come they can have 14 inch barrel and we cant have anything less than 18?
For the same reason they can have new machine guns and M4's and we can't.

Actually the 14 inch length has been the standard length for ALL Federal Law Enforcement shotguns for over 20 years. I had my first one issued to me in 1988. It was in addition the the H&K MP-5 I was issued.

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Their 14-inch barrel will be no match for my 26-inch rifle barrel. I ain't skeered.

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Originally posted by Flight-ER-Doc:
The massas always have better shit than the slaves...
Oh, I don't know about that. It seems to me, when ever the IRS/.gov shows up with shotguns on a citizens doorstep, there's always some citizen knocking on their door in return with a private plane... or a car, or a truck... or something a lot bigger than any lil'ol shotgun!

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Even "Nuts" are never any threat to society as long as they are left alone... but there's always got to be someone like the IRS coming along to make them crack.

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Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151104
02/23/2010 04:17 PM
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Hope they don't leave them in the airport bathroom like that BATFE agent did last year.


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Hope they don't leave them in the airport bathroom like that BATFE agent did last year.
Really? Why not? Seems like maybe the guy was subconsciously having a guilt trip about taking guns away from the public in the name of the government, he decided to give one away...


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[b] Hope they don't leave them in the airport bathroom like that BATFE agent did last year.
Really? Why not? Seems like maybe the guy was subconsciously having a guilt trip about taking guns away from the public in the name of the government, he decided to give one away... [/b]
Well hey, this is even better:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-02-17-lost-guns_N.htm

So exactly how many of you "evil scary " militiamen have lost your guns?

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By Thomas Frank, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The nation's Homeland Security officers lost nearly 200 guns in bowling alleys, public restrooms, unlocked cars and other unsecure areas, with some ending up in the hands of felons. The problem, outlined in a new federal report, has prompted disciplinary actions and extra training.
Most of the misplaced weapons — including handguns, shotguns and military rifles — were never found. "Most losses occurred because officers did not properly secure firearms," says the Homeland Security inspector general report.

At least 15 of the guns ended up in the hands of gang members, criminals, drug users and teenagers, inspector general Richard Skinner found. His report documented 289 missing firearms from fiscal year 2006 through 2008, although not all were lost because of negligence. Some were lost in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and others were stolen from safes.

The report is the first accounting of guns lost by Homeland Security's 185,000 workers.

Homeland Security "took immediate action" to correct problems, department spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said Wednesday. Workers are getting extra training and officials are improving tracking and inspection of guns, Kudwa said.

"The department is strongly committed to ensuring that weapons ... are kept secure," Kudwa said.

Although the number of guns lost is only a small fraction of Homeland Security's 190,000 firearms, any lost weapon "is a very serious matter," said Hubert Williams, president of the Police Foundation, a think tank on law-enforcement issues. "It reflects the competence of the officer."

The report does not say if any of the guns were used in crimes.

Homeland Security said employees have been fired and suspended for losing guns. Guns are carried by many Customs, Border Patrol and Immigration agents.

A 2008 report found 76 guns lost by the 4,800 agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in a five-year period ending in 2007.

Spots where Homeland Security workers lost guns from 2006 through 2008:

A fast-food restaurant bathroom
A car idling in a convenience-store lot
A bowling alley
A toolbox in a truck bed
On a car bumper

Source: Homeland Security Department inspector general


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Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151107
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I'm wondering how many of those records were fudged and how many DHS agents assigned to New York somehow lost their guns in Hurricane Katrina, even though they never left NY.


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Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151108
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Dept of Education buying shotguns



www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...=core&_cview=0

Solicitation Number:
EDOOIG-10-000004

Notice Type:
Combined Synopsis/Solicitation


Synopsis:
Added: Mar 08, 2010 10:39 am
The U.S. Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven (27) REMINGTON BRAND MODEL 870 POLICE 12/14P MOD GRWC XS4 KXCS SF. RAMAC #24587 GAUGE: 12 BARREL: 14" - PARKERIZED CHOKE: MODIFIED SIGHTS: GHOST RING REAR WILSON COMBAT; FRONT - XS CONTOUR BEAD SIGHT STOCK: KNOXX REDUCE RECOIL ADJUSTABLE STOCK FORE-END: SPEEDFEED SPORT-SOLID - 14" LOP are designated as the only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol,maintenance, and parts.

The required date of delivery is March 22, 2010.

Interested sources must submit detailed technical capabilities and any other information that demonstrates their ability to meet the requirements above, no later than March 12, 2010 at 12 PM, E.S.T. Any quotes must be submitted electronically to the attention of Holly.Le@ed.gov, Contract Specialist (Contract Operations Group), with a concurrent copy to Sherese.Lewis@ed.gov, Contracting Officer (Contract Operations Group).
The following clauses are applicable to this requirement:

52-212-1 Instruction to Offerors - Commercial Items
52.212-2 Evaluation - Commercial Items
52.212-3 Offeror Representations and Certifications - Commercial Items
52.212-4 Contract Terms and Conditions - Commercial Items
52.212-5 Contract Terms and Conditions Required Implementing Statutes or Executive Orders - Commercial Items

In accordance with 52.212-2, the fill-in applicable to this requirement is below:
52.212-2 Evaluation-Commercial Items.

As prescribed in 12.301(c), the Contracting Officer may insert a provision substantially as follows:
Evaluation-Commercial Items (Jan 1999)

(a) The Government will award a contract resulting from this solicitation to the responsible offeror whose offer conforming to the solicitation will be most advantageous to the Government, price and other factors considered. The following factors shall be used to evaluate offers:
(i) Technical Capability
(ii) Price
In accordance with 52.212-5, the following clauses are applicable to this requirement:
52.225-1 Buy American Act - Supplies (February 2009)
52.232-33, Payment by Electronic Funds Transfer-Central

New equipment only; no remanufactured products. No partial shipments
Offer must be good for 30 calendar days after submission.
Offerors must have current Central Contractor Registration (CCR) at the time offer is submitted. Information can be found at www.ccr.gov.
This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items in accordance with Federal Acquisition Regulation Part 12, Acquisition of Commercial Items. The Government will award a commercial item purchase order to the offeror with the most advantageous offer to the government. All offerors must submit their best price and delivery capabilities.

Place of Delivery:
U.S. Department of Education
Office of Inspector General
c/o: Gary Pawlak, Special Agent
500 West Madison Street - Suite 1414
Chicago, IL 60661


Contracting Office Address:
550 12th Street, SW, 7th Floor
Washington, District of Columbia 20202


Primary Point of Contact.:
Holly Le,
Contract Specialist
Holly.Le@ed.gov
Phone: 202-245-6070
Fax: 202-245-6297


Secondary Point of Contact:
Sherese Perrin Lewis,
Contracting Officer
Sherese.Lewis@ed.gov
Phone: 202-245-6235
Fax: 202-245-6296


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Re: IRS Acquiring Shotguns #151109
03/12/2010 01:44 PM
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You beat me to it, boss. Anyone have any idea why the Department of Education would be buying 27 shotguns?

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SWAT raids on homeschoolers?


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