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http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=32;t=000654;p=1#000003

But without the cover photo.

That Cover really ticks me off.

That's a squared away Marine Corps eight-point though.

Yet another anti-Militia hit piece. And the media wonders why my unit never wants to talk to them.

Here, they had a well organized unit that not only was willing to talk to them, but actually let them attend their training event and even take photos of their members! Yet what did they do? They did a pathetic job of trying to connect some neo-nazi douchebags and Tim Mcveigh (big surprise) to the Militia.

The message is clear; do the media a favor and they screw you over. Give them a story and they give you a bad reputation you never deserved in the first place.

ODF, I hope you guys videotaped your interviews with them and will be putting them on youtube real soon.

The author basically says to the readers, "These guys might not seem so bad, but don't let that fool you. I'm sure there are plenty of evil militias out there."

I just found this "Letter from the Editor".

True patriotism is not owned by any party or person. Nor is there a one-size-fits-all definition that would please all those who consider themselves patriots. We each define the idea — and act on it — in our own way. But there are some definitions that cross the line, that pervert patriotism and take it to a place that is hateful and dangerous. Barry Goldwater famously declared in his acceptance speech at the 1964 Republican Convention that "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." Fine. But some forms of extremism in defense of a misguided sense of liberty can be poisonous. And such noxious extremism can come from left or right — or anywhere.

In this week's powerful and disturbing cover story, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative correspondent Barton Gellman explores the world of extreme antigovernment alienation, from the training protocols of America's militias all the way to the deranged plans of a neo-Nazi who sought to plant a dirty bomb in Washington. In recent years, rhetoric on the left and the right of the political spectrum has grown more incendiary, but both sides still aim to achieve their ends with ballots, not bullets. The story portrays those who believe that government is more than just the problem; they believe it is the enemy. The most extreme militants do not believe in change through peaceful means and think it is only a matter of time before they will have to take up arms against the federal government.
(See a Q&A on the American right's radicalism.)

Barton spent the past six months working on this, his first TIME cover story, and traveled to California, Ohio, North Carolina, New York and Washington. "I grew up target shooting and have family in the Army," he notes, "so the guns didn't scare me. What scared me is the way some antigovernment groups are training to use them — and the matter-of-factness of some of their members when they speak of bloodshed." The striking photograph on the cover and those inside were taken by a young photographer named Ty Cacek, who accompanied Barton to an Ohio Defense Force training site in Zanesville, Ohio. Ty is just 19, but his vision has a maturity that belies his age. The entire project was overseen by national editor and Washington bureau chief Michael Duffy.

Both the government and the media are desperate for a new OKC to whine about.

They are scared shitless of the coming backdraft.

You all would not believe the number of requests I get from the media to do a "fair and balanced" interview. I've even been offered "payment" to act as a "consultant" for a new movie that is supposedly being produced about the militia movement.

The media can kiss my ass. We no longer need them to get our message out to the public. They need us to spread theirs. And, it ain't gonna happen.

A top FBI counterterrorism official says the bureau's "biggest concern" is "the individual who has done the training, has the capability but is disenchanted with the group's action — or in many cases, inaction — and decides he's going to act alone." A high-ranking DHS official added that "it's almost impossible to find that needle in a haystack," even if the FBI has an informant in the group. James Cavanaugh, who recently retired from a senior post at the ATF and took part in some of the bloodiest confrontations with the radical right in the 1990s, says the creation of monsters in their midst is the greatest danger posed by organized groups.

The ceaseless talk of federal aggression — and regular training to repel it — "becomes a hysteria where you constantly, constantly practice and nothing happens," he says. "Now most of them wouldn't go out offensively, O.K.? But generally why they're dangerous is that some people can't stand that rhetoric and just wait for it to happen. And they go off the rails, à la McVeigh."

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Cavanaugh: spoken like a true monster!

As usual, the article has to end with a reference to little Timmy the Tool, who for the record, did not work alone:

Timothy McVeigh worked for the FBI, and the OKC Bombing was a false flag event specifically engineered by DOJ in order to malign the BoR Article 2 Militia.

Did anyone really expect that Time and CNN would print the truth?

Damn straight

I believe that is actually the truth.

After the bombing of the Federal Building in OKC a TV Reporter was interviewing a FBI Agent and the Agent said to the Reporter in response to a question about Militia involvement ”I hope to God that the Militia was not involved because if they were we are in trouble” Now I am not 100% sure he said the exact words “We Are In Trouble” but from what he said and the manner he said it sure seemed that he was really afraid of what would happen if the the FBI had to fight the Militia. I also believe that he was not officially authorized to speak for the FBI. So I think in that case he actually told the unscripted truth.

Even if this were not true it is reasonable to figure that some people in Federal Law Enforcement and or High Ranking Military Officers and others in the Administration fully understand the implications of what would happen if even 3% of the American Gun Owners decided to use their weapons to fight for freedom.

Yes they do FEAR US.

And they always start with the fair and balanced reporting comment. I'm not laughing!!! This hit piece is clearly intended to sabotage the militias ability to win the hearts and minds of the local folks.

Aside from a bias media, fear is the enemy hear. It was a dumb move to even give the interview in the first place.

Leo out

10/4/10 issue on the stands , I missed the hard copy .............

Well , seems me and 762 are on the same page on this issue . He uses 3% I have explained it down to 1% of guns owners taking a stand and the out come is not pretty , Thats 10,000 per state with a bee in their bonnet ................

The don't understand us, so they fear us. And because they fear us, they seek to destroy us.

Secret World, LOL, we're open to the public! we've done many different trainings not all of which involves guns or gun training. CPR, ,first aid, fast water group crossings in the event of a flood and people are stranded on the other side of a swollen stream and can't cross safely on their own, we can do that because we've trained and many other training scenarios that suggest we're not all about preparing for end times or what ever.

Show up for 24 months straight and really see how we train, why we train, and for who we train. "Family, Friends, and Neighbors"
Then judge us!

Without retaining full editorial control over every letter written it is impossible to prevent what has occurred in this article.

Militia need to stop talking to the national media altogether. How many times do we need to be bitch slapped by inaccurate spin and connection to past false flag events like OKC?

By talking to them you agree to play their game in the arena they built, where they make the rules and truth is relative and fleeting.

Don't talk to the media. Period.

Operation Mockingbird info at totally compromised Wikipedia.

They can officially kiss mine as well: I'm starting preproduction on a Freedom Guide movie-it's going to be a compilation of voices througout the movement, whatever they contribute... that's good. Fiction, how-to, documentary, testimonial, music, whatever.

I'm looking for content. I'm also looking for people with quality equipment and skills to do a few things as well-perhaps if you've already got something and would like to help produce it or even if you got something in at least DV quality send me something at j-croft@graffiti.net

J. Croft

TIME is a tabloid and everyone knows it.

I hear that next month they'll have "Bat Boy" on the cover.

This article had what I suspect is the opposite of it's intended effect on me- See, I actually know one of the people (mis)quoted in it. I contacted him, and I think I may go check out the NEODF's training. Might even join, if I like what they do.

Hell, I found this place as a result of reading the article!