...for having sex without a condom. And he's been denied bail for a charge that apparently is not a crime anywhere outside of Sweden.

And on Glenn Beck's radio show this morning, he stated that those supporting Mr. Assange were "anarchists." He then said that "right-wing anarchists" were "racist mountain men."

I would certainly disagree with the term "right-wing." I wish he would have used "free market" instead. And I don't think too many folks who know me would call me a "racist mountain man." But I know damn well the bastard was talking about me.

And yes, Glenn, it pisses me off. You don't like it when people call you racist, do you? You say so often enough. How the hell do you think I feel about it?

Onward and upward,
airforce

Wait, isn't Mr. Beck supposed to be a right winger?

Hm...lets think here...

Oh wait, he's just another disinfo agent by the government to appeal to the "other side", the "right wing".

This is another example as such.

*Pay close attention to where they are going with this.

Senator Mitch McConnell called Assange a "high-tech terrorist" on NBC's Meet the Press Sunday and said, "if it‘s found that Assange hasn’t violated the law, then the law should be changed."

Over the weekend, an insightful article by Zen Gardner exposed how Wikileaks resembles an establishment creation. The article correctly pointed out that the WikiLeaks storyline was conforming nicely to the elite's problem-reaction-solution method, with the solution of more tyranny for our safety.

WikiLeaks is being used to bring in the agenda on so many levels, but most importantly by setting the precedent of shutting down websites for politically "dangerous" content. Gardner writes:

After all, if information is now the enemy, we must carefully police any and every aspect of this dangerous medium -- all for the safety and protection of 'we the people.'

Oh, we’ll still have the Internet, just like you can still fly. You’ll just have to be on the 'approved' list, screened, stamped, zapped, mugged and molested if you want to get 'on the net.' No biggie. Thanks Julian -- job well done.

]http://beforeitsnews.com/story/297/0..._Internet.html[/b]

Now consider this...one of the best comments I've read on this story.

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Over the weekend, an insightful article by Zen Gardner exposed how Wikileaks resembles an establishment creation. The article correctly pointed out that the WikiLeaks storyline was conforming nicely to the elite's problem-reaction-solution method, with the solution of more tyranny for our safety.

Unfortunately this is what is going on also.
The Sorros connection to Wikileaks cannot be overlooked.

This is the Hagelian Dialectic in motion here.

... Assange cannot be prosecuted for "treason" (not a US citizen) and he cannot be prosecuted for "espionage" --he is a news service in essence, and you would have to prosecute all news services for publishing or relaying any kind of sensitive material leaked to them also. Case closed (again see Judge Napoltano, patriot hero).

They will try to get some kind of control over the internet--and you see who's out in the forefront to do this... the communists in direct league with the progressive/neo-con republican dunces. Actually it is the neocon/progressive dunces that are making the most noise about this right now--because they are the ones who are the most embarrassed, and who have the most to loose.

Also the communist/democrats are trying to also use this to "implode" the US Government--which they will probably be successful in doing... but they will not archive the desired result from this implosion. They will not be able to consolidate power and start pulling the levers of tyranny--they will be crushed and tossed into the woodchippers across this land. This is a grand mistake they are making by trying to limit the internet. Doing this will bring about a not so peaceful revolution--it will intensify the tea party movement into something they do not want.

If the US Government cannot keep their secrets safe--too bad!! It it is totally implausible that one homo-private in the US Army leaked all of this material. This is like telling me that Elvis is still alive and well in Bakersfield California. This little homo is just a patsy, and is going to take a big a fall for someone/people way higher up who are doing all the dirty work.

Additionally... lets look at what the left is trying to do--collapse the corrupt system. They in a sense have the same goal as we do, but they have a completely different solution once the goal is achieved. We/us/Christian patriots are trying to bring down this system and go back to the original intent of our founding fathers, and to the original meaning of the US Constitution. They/them/the communists-democrats/Neocon-progressive types are trying to implode the system and impose a neo-facist/globalist network of socialism and control.

We/us/the good guys only share in half of the enemies goals, and that is to expose the corruption that is eating away at the heart of our government and turn all the cards on the table face-up. This is where (especially I) differ with Assange's goals. I do not want a globalist tyranny as the ultimate outcome. But the achieve what we/the good guys want--we have to bring down a corrupt system (the fed, perpetual war, neocons-progressives, etc.). We have to cast them into the dustbin of irrelevance.

ST

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Okay, pay attention... sit up straight and open your note books.

There is a wonderful book entitled, "By Way Of Deception" by Victor Ofstrofky --with whom I chatted several times to get the movie rights (but that's another story). This book is the "how to" (for everyone here) on the Mossad's methods of operation.

[b]The prime method that people are turned/manipulated is called: MICE (Money, Indiscretion, Corruption, Ego).

With Assange we see at play here a classic MICE operation... and in this sex case thing it is indiscretion (sex).

A) Our own government--outright, or elements controlled by Seotoro or Sorros leaked this semi-sensitive info through a patsy... the "homo-private" (or whatever his rate is) most likely though a variation of MICE and a "false flag" operation (money offered by seemingly a foreign power, business man, etc.). The "homo-private" leaks the info directly where it is intended to go...

B) Julain Assange who operates Wikileaks. This guy is an equal opportunity leaker--and it does not matter really who the material comes from. He is an unwitting player--he is being setup from the get-go. Our government (through "cutouts") intentionally gives Assange this semi-sensitive material. It is not red hot nuclear secrets, or the CIA NOTCH list, or NSA codes--no, it is embarrising material that will create an uncomfortable level of chaos. The "outfit" (the CIA) has a way of psy-profiling people and know Assange likes pretty blonde women...

C) They set-up Assange (using MICE, and see Beck's program today) with a cute blonde Swedish slut who is either directly on the payroll, or is also false flagged by a third party (mostly likely a contractor/cutout) to bang Assange's brains out--and then later claim she was "assaulted" --to discredit him. Yada, yada... Assange is arrested and he later finds out he is going to be deported to....

D) The USA. And when Assange finds this out--he releases the "poison pill" files which will do massive harm and chaos to our government. All the while the PTB stooges in congress (mainly dunce conservatives) will be screaming also for "complete control" over the internet. Seotoro (with complete deniability) goes along with the screams from congress--and the levers of tyranny start to be pulled (with much help from the Neocons/progressive conservatives).


This is classic "circular" operation. With just the bare elements of what Glenn Beck discussed today on his show--it is manifestly apparent that the Swedish slut/s are paid operative on someone's payroll. Nothing about this whole matter is a cooincidence--they are all pieces of a bigger puzzle. Just the revelations about the Swedish sluts make this a no brainer--and then the Swedish politican who pushed for reinstatement of these bogus charges (again more payola) makes this a huge Hagelian circular operation.

This is completely evil.
This is your governement now.

Like I said, if they/them get the desired results--they won't like the outcome at all.

ST

I you guys keep it up you are going to need an Aluminum helmet like mine. Good deduction!
I believe I read elsewhere on this board about the Internet needing protection in a thread.
In the last three days I have heard that some elected criminal thought so.
Just as before 9/11 when you have the patriots for hire (Jones, Beck,Hanity,etc) rolling it like this a presentation is not far behind.
Remember ConSigCor's warnings about the power grid being vurnerable, and how it also controlled the Banks!
"Never waste an Emergency" Emanuell the Mossad.
Keep your eyes open and your powder dry.

A lil off topic but about Beck...

I'd be willing to bet that if you sat down with the man and spoke with him you might see him a bit differently.

I thought the same about him, especially when it became more than apparent during the first show I watched in entirety that he is very against the unorganized militia in this country. He never directly says it, but he is always denouncing any type of resistance or prep that dosn't have to do with an endgame involving the ballot box. That, and I just can't bring myself to trust anyone remotely associated with mainstream media, I quickly wrote him off.

However,

He is responsible for waking many people up, even some in my personal life that I just couldn't reach. After seeing several shows I decided to study him in earnest. I even attended the retoreing honor rally. He just pushes too far for me to label him a puppet and leave it at that. If he's a fed, they've gotta be screaming at him to tone it down a notch. I have yet to see how his public activities, radio program, or Fox show work in the fed's favor. In fact his activities seem to have had the culminating effect of slowly eroding the ignorance that allows the slide of the Fed into despotism and tyranny.

To me the jury is still out on if I could call him an ally or just another journalistic cog for the globalist.

But I do have to give him praise. Many in my family and my community now realize that "something is off with the government", and no longer see me as that "racist mountain man" at worst or disturbed veteran at best.

Now they see me as that guy to go to for food and protection IF things go very badly. I don't necessarily see that as a good thing, I've only got a years worth for one person, and I can only point my rifle in one direction at a time. At least it's a start, and one I couldn't get going even with my own family. Beck is responsible for that.

Not to mention he's right, on just about everything that can be verified. And while we can't verify this wikileaks thing right now, Beck sees this from the same angle most in the movement do.

Check out Beck's website. www.theblaze.com. Make your own call.

+1

Oh, I don't have anything really against Glenn Beck, other than he seems confused about what anarchy is, and the fact that he called me a racist. He does have some good ideas. I'm just a little bit confused about what he hopes to accomplish.

Onward and upward,
airforce

Beck fans.
I don't have anything against Beck personally. but you and I have to remember that he works "not for Beck'. He is an employee, body and maybe soul of the Fox network. That network is owned by :
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So when Beck says something I try to not give him anymore weight than George Bush (either of them)

You can't make this stuff up.

As senior Obama administration officials discuss prosecuting Julian Assange and Joe Lieberman says the New York Times should be investigated for espionage, the U.S. announced it plans to host [b]World Press Freedom Day[/b] .

Man, I feel like I just woke up in the Twilight Zone. Seriously.

Onward and upward,
airforce

Welcome to 1984 animal farm.
All animals are equal,but some are more equal then others.

Safetalker,
Exactly.

Am I automatically to be labeled the enemy as well?

I currently work for the oppressive government in a law enforcement capacity. Conflict of interest. Absolutely. But never doubt exactly where I stand. I do have a reputation for refusing orders I don't agree with, and it has cost me dearly on the professional level. My employment is only a vessel that furthers my efforts toward freedom. Perhaps Beck is in the same boat.

Perhaps...

Both parties are showing their true colors. Now the dems are starting to climb on board the regulate the internet bandwagon. It's just a matter of time before they seize total control over what is allowed on the web. Time to plan for alternatives.

Dem Strategist: The Internet Is No Longer Going To Be Open

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrxUynysqRI

The people currently "backing" Assange with actual operational resources go by variations on the name "Pirate party" and have infiltrated several circles of the international elite.

They have people in banking, international relations, the computer industry (at all levels), and Hollywood (at all levels). They may also have a base of operations in Israel but are NOT supported by Israel's official ruling party. They do apparently have some fairly open supporters in the IDF and other Israeli government agencies. Those I have seen pictures of are white, very white, like that almost inbred South African white look.

They are active at several levels in the UK, and quite likely Ireland but my initial research shows them to more likely to operate out of London.

They have active support in the US obviously mostly in Leftist circles, but as we can see from their fights with the Democrats over what they consider "internet Freedom" they don't follow the Democrat party line.

This whole thing is their operation and they have proven operationally competent in the past. I suspect they would share resources with a few transnational revolutionary groups which have remained more or less independent, like the Zapatistas in Mexico or some of the pacific Islander groups.

If you make contact with any of these people, maintain it, but keep it under wraps as they might prove useful. I understand they had previously been tolerated by at least some factions of the CIA since they were considering Iran to be open season (hence their tolerance from the Mossad at various levels). Generally speaking they have been running with support of "allied" countries other than the US, but increasingly got at odds with the official UK government over various local issues.

The Anarchists are pro-gun and pro-freedom which on the surface of it makes them "not enemies" although for those of us with strong ties to the US military, we cringe and grit our teeth over this whole thing of them engaging in hostile espionage against what has been "our" military.

At the outset of this whole militia movement thing, and the underground cells forming among military and police people, those of us in the military basically set the policy that we would engage in actions which don't threaten national security, and the police guys would not engage in actions which victimize the general public (roughly parallel to the oathkeepers official statements, which our people wrote anyway).

Now this stuff with Assange, well, that threatens national security to a large degree, but I am not calling shots on that either, and then so much wrong has been done in the name of national security that it muddies the waters too.

They consider themselves a counter balance to the existing world power infrastructure. They have a lot of the same values we have, but if we fully and openly align with them, we might be aligning with some people who are outright seditionists and committing wartime treason to some degree, providing aid to enemies of our guys still in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now "leaking" the embassy "wires" which is just basically a subscription news service only open to embassy personnel with various clearances (which are obviously not that hard to get), that's not such a big deal. Information of combat importance in the sandbox is relevant, but all I have seen so far is stuff that is not particularly mission-threateningly groundbreaking.

This is a real delicate issue that we need to tiptoe around. I think some of the info those people might have is useful, and as a whole they are more useful alive than dead, but like with Jim Stachowiak or Christopher Monfort, we might not want to make their fights our fights either way. What we ought to do is sit back watch, listen and learn.

These "net anarchists" are the people most likely to come up with some good functional internet alternatives and defense mechanisms to "big brother" which is definitely not going to be any friend of freedom. Those skills, resources and connections are something we are probably going to be needing.

1) Do you even follow Glenn Beck...do you form your own opinions...or are you just regurgitating something you read somewhere?

2) I don't follow his TV show because I don't have cable, but I catch his radio show as often as I can. If you were to listen to the radio show with any consistency at all, you'd realize how much he's NOT a Republican shill, as he regularly takes Republicans to task.

3) The man is employed in part by Rupert Murdoch, but he could easily lose his Fox gig and still live quite comfortably off his radio program, books, and stage shows:

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Interestingly, Forbes repor...t lucrative of all his ventures.

If not for Glenn Beck, I would still be under the impression that Republicans were the good guys.

As I've said before, I really don't have anything against Glenn Beck. He has some pretty good ideas sometimes, which is a rarity for talking heads on TV. And I really don't mind Rupert Murdoch, either. He's made a fortune by pretty much doing his own thing, and the free market part of me just has to respect that.

Both Rupert Murdoch and Glenn Beck depend on one thing: Ratings. If nobody watched their shows or read their publications, they wouldn't be making any money. The fact is, both of these men have made fortunes because they deliver what their audience wants. We can argue and speculate about just what that is, but their ratings speak for themselves.

Instead of criticizing them, maybe we should be figuring out what they're doing right, and try to emulate them.

Onward and upward,
airforce

+1

Gentlemen,

It seems maybe Beck got off on the wrong foot, when he was at CNN.
I think he continued the fantasy when he first got to Fox.

But if you take his message in complete context. I really think he has been coming around to see things as most of us see them.

Hell there are many of us that don't agree on every issue, but we listen to each other. I may not agree with anarchist view. But I do believe that this country was founded with as little Government as possible. As close to anarchy as we could be and still remain united.


My friends I think we are falling into the trap of never seeing a change in someone. We cry for the sheep to wake up but fail to see when they do.
Beck started off saying how crazy any patriot was. Now he is calling for all patriots to unite. I believe he has called for " Faith, Hope and Charity". If that isn't one of our basic values in the patriot movement.

If not, Then I will eat my hat.

He has a different view of the way to return to the Republic, he preaches Non Violence like King. I and many of you hold a different view. We have prepared for the violence we expect.

Gentlemen and Ladies I pray everyday that his way will succeed and we will never need to use those weapon we train with.

If you are praying the other way, then you are not a fellow patriot of mine.

To pray for war means no matter how much of the old Republic of our founders came back into existence, you would never be satified.

What I have seen in Beck lately is a man who says what he thinks Knowing his days are numbered. Either by being pulled from the air, destroyed by the very media he is part of,or maybe killed by some left wing socialist/ communist.

He will only have a short time to say his piece.

I suggest listen with an open mind, do your own research (as he asks you to do every night), then make up your own mind.

But anyone here who comes into a situation with a made up mind can never adjust to the new reality we will face.

In other words this is a chance to test your ability to adjust as things change, and they will change.

We all preach about freedom, let's do the very thing we claim to love. Be free minded individuals, willing to give all for the liberty, we were given.

Yes given, Any of the wars most of us have fought in, were for other peoples freedom.

Our freedom has not been in jeopardy since WWII.

Until now....

Most of us alive today,will have our chance now to stand for freedom.

Some will be executed by the enemy for our beliefs,

some will stand like Beck till crushed.

Some of us may have to fight.

Many will run and turn on their brothers.

But your chance to fight for your freedom is coming.

Whether you do it like King, or like Washington and the founders.

or like Benedict Arnold.

Your chance is coming. I promise you!!!

Greywolf

THIS is how you wage war against the beast.


Risk of Unintended Consequences, Escalation in WikiLeaks "Cyberwar"

Analysis: WikiLeaks battle: a new amateur face of cyber war?

LONDON (Reuters) – The website attacks launched by supporters of WikiLeaks show 21st-century cyber warfare evolving into a more amateur and anarchic affair than many predicted.

While most countries have plowed much more attention and resources into cyber security in recent years, most of the debate has focused on the threat from militant groups such as al Qaeda or mainstream state on state conflict.

But attempts to silence WikiLeaks after the leaking of some 250,000 classified State Department cables seem to have produced something rather different -- something of a popular rebellion amongst hundreds or thousands of tech-savvy activists.

Read more:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101209/...arfare_amateur

WikiLeaks backers hit MasterCard and Visa in cyberstrike

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL3E6N80HH20101208

Army of hackers targets the Swedish government, Sarah Palin and credit card giants in WikiLeaks 'Operation: Payback'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz17d5BIdhu

WikiLeaks hacktivists announce they are attacking Amazon.com next: RT @Op_Payback: TARGET: WWW.AMAZON.COM LOCKED ON!!! http://read.bi/dLJYFS


WikiLeaks Supporters Hack MasterCard's Website, Force Offline
From Twitter:

'Anonymous' activist group claims to have forced MasterCard's website offline in WikiLeaks-related protest http://bit.ly/hBKWmw

Assange's 'poison pill' file impossible to stop, expert says
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/08/wikileaks.poison.pill/index.html?hpt=C1