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TOMORROW - December 21st - the FCC rules and regulations are slated to take effect.

YOUR Internet freedoms will then VANISH!
This could be the very worst "Merry Christmas" present that you have ever received.

I know, not too many people know about this. That is precisely why YOU must fax every single Member of Congress right now----TOMORROW WILL BE TOO LATE!

Barack Obama has a "Christmas surprise" for the American people. It's based upon the FCC's self-imposed December 21 deadline to implement new Internet rules.

Mr. Obama wants to take control of the Internet through FCC regulation. We're talking about YOUR Internet. YOUR ability to contact your friends. YOUR relatives. And YOUR elected representatives in government.

This "stealth" use of new FCC rules and regulations will sneak up on us just before Christmas. TOMORROW! Quite frankly, not too many people know about this; or took the notion serious because, after all, we have the 1st Amendment to the U. S. Constitution to protect us. Right? Wrong!

The FCC is ready to add the Internet to its "portfolio" of regulated industries. The Obama Administration wants to take control of the Internet tomorrow! (even though the regulations won't "officially" go into effect until after the holidays). FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski announced that he has circulated "draft rules" that he says will "preserve the freedom and openness of the Internet." No statement---I call it a bald face lie---reflects the vast gulf between the rhetoric and the reality of Obama Administration policy.

Obama's FCC is ready to steal our Internet freedom by simply declaring it has the "right" to regulate it. Here's the underlying problem for Barack Obama. Internet journalists tend to report the news without coloring it with the brush of "political correctness." They challenge the lies that the Obama Administration puts out that the so-called "mainstream media" simply accept and repeat as the truth.

We must be prepared to do battle with the intrusive FCC federal regulations that will clamp down on our 1st Amendment rights via the Internet. To protect our free speech rights on the Internet, we must fax every single Member of Congress and let them know they must NOT agree to tomorrow's -- December 21st-- regulations! Will you do that for yourself and for the rest of us... today---please? This is so important; let me repeat my request so that you understand the extreme urgency. Because, historically, when government seizes liberty, it's gone forever.

That is precisely why this email is so very, very important. Your response tomorrow, or Wednesday, or sometime after Christmas will absolutely be TOO LATE! These regulations take effect tomorrow, TUESDAY, DECEMBER 21ST!

This is extremely CRITICAL.

YOUR First Amendment rights are at stake within hours!


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Because, historically, when government seizes liberty, it's gone forever.
Rights that are stolen Can Be Restored the same way as They Can Be Protected, By Force of Arms.


"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.
(Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States; With a Preliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and States before the Adoption of the Constitution [Boston, 1833])


I believe that there will be a Second Civil War or Revolution and I also believe that it will happen very soon and restoring our Internet Rights will just be another of our Rights that we will have to Restore after we win the War.

Also those who are responsible for the loss of our Rights will need to be punished for their Crimes Against the Constitution and the People. And we must not have any mercy for our enemies.


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This has been coming for a long time. All totalitarian governments attempt to destroy free speech.

They may very well deny dissenting voices the use of the internet...

So what.

Let them try to shut down hundreds of pirate radio stations operating on their beloved ham bands. Maybe it's time for UPR to rise again.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Let us not go off the deep end. Yet!
IMO this is part of the UN plan to control the Internet that surfaced about 2 years ago.
The UN wanted to move all of the assignment of addresses to them so as to better utilize the addresses.
Problem is that no matter what you call the net it is still just a group of computers that have been interwired.
While this site is called WWW.AWRM.ORG that is unknown to the computers. This is 209.194.116.139 to the network.
Thus there are (000-999)-(000-999)-(000.999)-(000-999)= 996,005,996,001 available addresses for the entire world to use. To add a deciminal to each of these would require a complete replacement of millions of servers, encryption devices, and operating systems at a time when the world is in financial ruin.
In the past two years you have seen millions of people in what used to be third world countries and non-technical industries jumping on the Internet.
When the US told the UN to drop dead the battle began. I suspect that they have reached a compromise for allocating those resources. Possibly by limiting the out of country access by only allowing that service through a paid port provider.
In either case it would be a good time for "Associated groups" to begin to set up dial in access ports for strategic emails and VPN access.

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/fcc-controversial-net-neutrality-rules/

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FCC approves controversial ‘Net Neutrality’ regulations

By Eric W. Dolan
Tuesday, December 21st, 2010 -- 2:07 pm

By a 3-2 vote Tuesday, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) passed so-called "Net Neutrality" rules aimed at prohibiting internet service providers (ISPs) from discriminating between Internet traffic.

Supporters of "Net Neutrality" have been disappointed by the proposed rules, saying they heavily favor the industry they are supposed to regulate.

Democratic Commissioners Mignon Clyburn and Michael Copps both voted with Chairman Julius Genachowski in favor of the new rules, despite saying they believed the Open Internet Order to be too weak.

Republican Commissioners Robert McDowell and Meredith Attwell Baker voted against it.

Sen. Al Franken (D-MN), who has championed "Net Neutrality" in the past, said the FCC's proposed rules would actually "destroy" the principle of "Net Neutrality."

The rules authored by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski would require ISPs to allow their customers to have access all legal online content, applications and services over their wired networks and prohibit unreasonable network discrimination.

But the plan would also allow for a greater fractioning of the Internet and data rationing on mobile and wired networks, according to analysis of the policies. Major network stakeholders like Verizon and AT&T would be able to sell bandwidth in capped tiers, with overage charges for users who download too much information, and certain types of data traffic like peer-to-peer file transfers could be banned altogether.

The FCC would additionally require broadband providers to disclose their network management practices.

If they pass and telecoms are allowed to move forward with their plans, "the Internet as we know it would cease to exist," Sen. Franken concluded in an editorial published by Huffington Post.

"That's why Tuesday is such an important day," he continued. "The FCC will be meeting to discuss those regulations, and we must make sure that its members understand that allowing corporations to control the Internet is simply unacceptable."

In a recent speech, Genachowski specified that the FCC's rules would permit ISPs to charge heavy bandwidth users even more, creating a tiered pricing structure. ISPs would also be able to charge fees to businesses serving large quantities of data.

The new rules would apply to wireless Internet providers as well as wired Internet providers, but wireless Internet providers are expected to receive greater flexibility in their ability to manage web traffic.

Tiered pricing structures are already in place for many communications providers like AT&T and Cricket, which offer wireless broadband services. Verizon said it would implement similar pricing structures in the coming months.

With a recent report by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showing that a majority of Americans age 25-29 live in households that only have cell phone access, the importance of wireless connections is expected to grow.

"We are deeply disappointed that the chairman chose to ignore the overwhelming public support for real 'Net Neutrality,' instead moving forward with industry-written rules that will for the first time in Internet history allow discrimination online," Free Press Managing Director Craig Aaron said in a statement. "This proceeding was a squandered opportunity to enact clear, meaningful rules to safeguard the Internet's level playing field and protect consumers."

Republican Minority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell warned Tuesday that the new "Net Neutrality" rules would be used by President Barack Obama to takeover the Internet.

"The Obama Administration, which has already nationalized health care, the auto industry, insurance companies, banks and student loans, will move forward with what could be a first step in controlling how Americans use the Internet by establishing federal regulations on its use," he said.

Republican Commissioner McDowell had less alarmist disagreements with the new rules.

"Analysts and broadband companies of all sizes have told the FCC that new rules are likely to have the perverse effect of inhibiting capital investment, deterring innovation, raising operating costs, and ultimately increasing consumer price," he wrote in an op-ed piece for the Wall Street Journal. "On this winter solstice, we will witness jaw-dropping interventionist chutzpah as the FCC bypasses branches of our government in the dogged pursuit of needless and harmful regulation."


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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BELTWAY CONFIDENTIAL http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs...rse-fccs-internet-takeover#ixzz18nMbVe3O

Politics from the Nation's Capital
DeMint vows to reverse FCC's 'Internet takeover'



By: Mark Tapscott 12/21/10 2:33 PM
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Sen. Jim DeMint, R-SC, says Federal Communications Commission should be renamed the "Fabricating a Crisis Commission," following a vote by the panel's three Democrats to approve proposed rules that amount to a hostile takeover of the Internet by a government agency acting illegally.

The proposal - misleadingly described by proponents as an attempt to insure "net neutrality" by guaranteeing equal access to the Internet - was introduced a year ago by Julius Genachowski, President Obama's appointee as FCC chairman.

A federal court has ruled that the commission has no authority to regulate the Internet, and a bipartisan group of senators and representives warned Genechowski not to attempt to impose a regulatory regime on the Internet earlier this year.

The move's legality was even questioned by FCC Commissioner Michael Copp, one of the Democrats who voted today with Genachowski, saying he considered voting against the proposal because it lacks a sufficiently defensible legal basis to survive a court challenge promised by major Internet Service Providers like Verizon, Microsoft, and AT & T.

But legal challenges by industry are likely to be much less of a problem for the Genachowski-led takeover than efforts in Congress to stop the FCC in its tracks.

That's clearly what DeMint has in mind, as he said in his statement released today following the FCC action:

“The Obama Administration has ignored evidence that this federal takeover will hang a millstone of regulatory and legal uncertainty around the neck of a vibrant sector of our economy.

"Proceeding on its own liberal whims rather than facts, this FCC has chosen to grant itself broad authority to limit how businesses can bring the internet to consumers in faster and more innovative ways.

“Americans loudly demanded a more limited federal government this November, but the Obama Administration has dedicated itself to expanding centralized government planning. Today, unelected bureaucrats rammed through an internet takeover, even after Congress and courts warned them not to.

“To keep the internet economy thriving, this decision must be reversed. Regulatory reform will be a top priority for Republicans in the next Congress, and I intend to prevent the FCC or any government agency from unilaterally burdening our recovering economy with baseless regulation.

"In order to provide the stability businesses need to grow, I will work with my fellow senators to see passage of my FCC Act, which would ensure that the FCC can only use its rulemaking powers where there is clear evidence of a harmful market failure, as well as the REINS Act, which would add the accountability of a Congressional vote before any government agency’s proposed major regulations may be finalized.”

If the FCC plan somehow manages to survive, it will almost certainly do for First Amendment liberties and the Internet what it did for them in regulating broadcast television and radio. Former CBS News president Fred Friendly's landmark book, "The Good Guys, the Bad Guys and the First Amendment," describes in great detail how the Kennedy and Johnson administrations used the FCC to silence conservative critics.


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attempt to insure "net neutrality" by guaranteeing equal access to the Internet
WTF equal access? what a pile sh$t its easier to access at any user level then figuring out the new freaking remote from my cable company


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Save the internet! Abolish the FCC![/b] A new article by David Harsanyi:

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Because there exists no area of human activity that couldn't benefit from more paternalistic attention . . . Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the Federal Communications Commission to your Web browser.

Congressional Democrats could not find the votes to pass "net neutrality." No problem. Three un-elected officials will impose rules on hundreds of millions of satisfied online consumers. A federal appeals court stops the FCC from employing authority over the Internet. Again, not a problem. Three out of five FCC commissioners can carve out some temporary wiggle room, because as any crusading technocrat knows, the most important thing is getting in the door.

It's not that we don't need the FCC's meddling, it's that we don't need the FCC at all. Rather than expanding the powers — which always seem to grow — of this outdated bureaucracy, Congress should be finding ways to eliminate it.

Why would we want a prehistoric bureaucracy overseeing one of the century's great innovations? As a bottom-up, unregulated and under- taxed market in which technological innovation, free speech and competition thrive — at affordable prices, no less — the Internet poses a crisis of ideology, not commerce, for the FCC. It's about control and relevance. What else can explain the proactive rescue of the Web from capitalistic abuses that reside exclusively in the imagination of a handful of progressive ideologues?

What is the FCC doing? It's complicated and in some ways irrelevant. It claims that regulatory power will ensure that consumers enjoy an "open Internet" (with more broadband providers than ever, is there anything more open than the Internet?). But the FCC can also censor speech. And once the FCC can regulate Internet service providers, those providers will be more compliant and more interested in making censors happy.

The FCC also can hand out favors and hurt competition. And as Lawrence Lessig, a professor at Harvard Law School, wrote in 2008, "Economic growth requires innovation. Trouble is, Washington is practically designed to resist it. Built into the DNA of the most important agencies created to protect innovation is an almost irresistible urge to protect the powerful instead."

Even as Chairman Julius Genachowski claims that he will employ a "light touch," the FCC leaves open the possibility that it will use the Title II docket to classify broadband as a public utility — and, as you know, nothing says progress and modernization like "utility."

The same organization that forced all consumers to buy Ma Bell-made telephones for decades, the same FCC that enforced speech codes via radio "fairness doctrines," the same FCC which took two decades after its invention to OK cellular technology for the marketplace and acted similarly sluggish with cable and satellite innovation has no business online.

[b]It is likely that a new Congress — or perhaps the courts — will undo this regulatory power play. And though "net neutrality" or "open Internet" (no one need to worry, Doublespeak is flourishing) may not survive, it reminds us that the FCC's institutional positions conflict with the vibrancy and freedom of the Internet. Positions that are as archaic as they are detrimental.
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Five buttfucking freemasonic lawyers are NOT going to tell me what I can and cannot see or do.

I don't think they'll entirely shut down the current internet-they'll phase it out, and they'll start with the Patriot Movement-all those domestic terrorists...

Yes there are go arounds ( http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2010/12/making-our-own-internet-update.html ) but if they take down my Free Speech-it's on.

The Tripwire:

http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2009/09/tripwire-from-resister.html


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Currently December 22nd, one day after internet regulations slated to start...relatively how many sites have been affected?


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Currently December 22nd, one day after internet regulations slated to start...relatively how many sites have been affected?
None. And don't expect anything to happen anytime soon. The outrage is that the FCC has assumed the power to do this much. And if they can do this much, they can do worse.

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From your Article

http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2009/09/tripwire-from-resister.html
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* the right to be let alone -- so that we may be free of government intrusion in our lives, liberty, and property (3rd Amendment);
Sorry Friend that is not the 3rd Amendment, I believe it should be but unfortunately it is not.

http://www.usastrike.org/docs/constitutional-amendments.html
Amendment 3
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

I don't know about those five Lawyers but Masons are not Buttfuckers, or at least most of them are not.

By the way I am a Mason and I am not a Buttfucker and neither are my Masonic Friends or at least to the best of my knowledge they are not.


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The outrage here is due to most people not understanding that they do not live in a country. The facts are that we live in a Corporation . We have since the 1700's and will until we open our eyes and set ourselves free.
You have to look at our lives as if we were employees of a Corporation. That is exactly our status and our way of life. I am not sure that after all of these years if we had the choice we would actually want to change it.
Consider it this way.
The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation. The President is the CEO of that corporation (see Dunn and Bradstreet). He has over the country the same duties, responsibilities, and powers as the CEO of Microsoft has over that Corporation.
The Cabinet is the same as the Board of Directors of a corporation.
The FCC is the director of IT in our corporation. All of the States are smaller corporation spin-offs. The states then allow businesses and counties and cities, and towns within their area of operation to become Incorporated under them.
This means that the networks shared by all of the states and their spin-off corporations are using the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Corporation's network called the Internet. Thus the FCC (Director of IT) has the right to make the rules on that network to include who can use it and for what purpose.
This is not my idea of how I would like it to be, this is just how it is.
Don't like it?
Then you have to sever yourself from the Corporation. This means discontinuing your use of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Corporation assets.
Stop mailing letters through the U.S.P.S.'s mail box in front of your house. Stop calling the XYZ County Corporation's 911 when your house catches fire or you become a victim of crime. Stop subscribing to the XYZ County Public works commission's utilities as a (residential) corporate user and pay the full price or dig a well, build a septic field, and get a power generator.
Refuse your Federal/State/County/City retirement check, or unemployment check, or Social security check.
These and bunches more of the niceties you enjoy are the result of your being a corporate citizen of these corporations.
What we speak of on these boards as basic survival is all we as residents on this country have to keep us alive without the help and support from these Corporations.
The decision is yours to make. There are thousands of Sovereign men and women living free of the Corporations as we type this. They made the decision and made the required changes in their lives so that they and their family could survive.
The information is on the Corporation's Internet today, but for how long is up to the Corporate IT.

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Fraud vitiates all contracts, corporation are fictions that create nothing that they do not first take from the individual living soul, corporations are no more real than Santa Claus.

Corporations are a lie sent forth to steal and murder while supposedly authorized to do so by scribbles on a piece of paper.

Robbery is not philanthropy and government can not bestow benefits anymore than a bandit can rob one man and give it to another and call it charity.


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What you say is basically true under common law. However on that dark day when FDR selected treason over admission by our Government of failure we were removed from a lawful existence as a nation.
To better understand you have to recognize that each of us are a split person.
One of us is a Fictitious Entity and the other us is a crap between our boots human. We are easy to tell apart because as you pointed out:
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corporation are fictions that create nothing that they do not first take from the individual living soul
that part of us is a Corporation. On that day so long ago when our Mother's held us in her arms for the first time the nurse returned and borrowed us (the real part) and whisked us off to the next room where the Doctor placed our foot prints on the Official Certificate of Birth. We, and the document, were returned to our mother and she was asked to sign. Not knowing any better she signed where the nurse pointed, the witnessed by line, and the document was sent off to the State capital for Registration and on to the US Dept of Commerce. That document was then used to establish a Corporation with the same name as ours except it was, and still is, all in capital letters.
In many of my entries you have seen me make the words I type in All capitals and bold. That is not Blog Shouting that is because I am pointing out a Fictitious Entity.
The reason they had to create our other was so we could survive with no money. When FDR took all the Gold held by the government and by the people and paid it to the FEDERAL RESERVE Inc as interest on our loan we had no Lawful way to pay our debts, buy our food, or even survive. However when we became corporations we could do this with IOU's (Federal Reserve Notes).
However once we became corporations we lost our common law status. In 1936 the courts became based upon equity and not justice.
If you go to your state's Law repository you will find whole chapters for how they administer the Uniform Commercial Code.
In place of Constitutional rights we were given remedies and recourses.
This is why when we stand up in a Court of law and demand our rights we are told we are in contempt of court. Under the UCC only signatories of the Constitution are entitled to claim those rights.
That was the purpose of my previous entry.
If you decide to opt out of the UCC you must notify everyone who is positioned to administer your compliance with the thousands of Statutes, regulations, Acts, and Ordinances written by the Federal, State, County, and City/Townships. When that is done you will no longer be able to play with their ball on their field. It will get cold, hungry, and lonely very quickly.
When the states all ratified the 14th Amendment and took away your state citizenship and made you a US CITIZEN you lost the humanity you crave and started us on the road to Corporate existence.
When FDR took all means to comply with the 14th Amendment requirement for us to be a debtor for the National Debt we became a slave.
Today the only thing you own, and that is fleeting, is your body. When you buy your car/bike and register it with the state it belongs to them.
Register comes from the Latin Regis which means to abandon to the Sovereign or king.
You after all didn't have any money to pay for it so the State keeps it till you do, but allows you to transfer it to another as soon as the payments are completed. The same with your house and land.
when you decide to marry you apply for a license and then REGISTER your marriage at the court house. I showed above where you REGISTER the birth of your children. Guess who they belong to now.
I am over 64 years of age. If I had this information when I was 20 to 30 I would have been very poor and free. When really is TOO late.

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What you say is basically true
I am over 64 years of age. If I had this information when I was 20 to 30 I would have been very poor and free. When really is [b] TOO
late. [/b]
I work with on occasion Ed Snook who has over 3700 victories over this present corrupt system, the law as written down has nothing to do with any of the victories.

It is simply king of the mountain, who has the force to kick the other guys ass. scribbles on paper are meaningless.

History of how we got to where we are today is important in forming the new sustainable system free from the errors of the past but when it comes to current events of what goes on today, it is purely who has the force to do what is necessary.


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...when it comes to current events of what goes on today, it is purely who has the force to do what is necessary.
Exactly

While I understand what both of you are saying...

Long ago, I stopped giving a damn what ANY corporation, court, or judge, has to say about anything.

Operate by your own rules. Theirs are irrelevant.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861

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