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We're Finally Pulling Out Of Iraq #153461
10/31/2011 02:02 PM
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...but, it turns out, we\'re not going very far
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MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. — The Obama administration plans to bolster the American military presence in the Persian Gulf after it withdraws the remaining troops from Iraq this year, according to officials and diplomats. That repositioning could include new combat forces in Kuwait able to respond to a collapse of security in Iraq or a military confrontation with Iran.

The plans, under discussion for months, gained new urgency after President Obama’s announcement this month that the last American soldiers would be brought home from Iraq by the end of December. Ending the eight-year war was a central pledge of his presidential campaign, but American military officers and diplomats, as well as officials of several countries in the region, worry that the withdrawal could leave instability or worse in its wake.

After unsuccessfully pressing both the Obama administration and the Iraqi government to permit as many as 20,000 American troops to remain in Iraq beyond 2011, the Pentagon is now drawing up an alternative.

In addition to negotiations over maintaining a ground combat presence in Kuwait, the United States is considering sending more naval warships through international waters in the region.

With an eye on the threat of a belligerent Iran, the administration is also seeking to expand military ties with the six nations in the Gulf Cooperation Council — Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Oman. While the United States has close bilateral military relationships with each, the administration and the military are trying to foster a new “security architecture” for the Persian Gulf that would integrate air and naval patrols and missile defense...
Read the whole depressing thing, then reflect upon what George Washington said in his Farewell Address. My ESP is notoriously nonexistent, but I predict this is not going to end well.

Onward and upward,
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Re: We're Finally Pulling Out Of Iraq #153462
10/31/2011 02:11 PM
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I think it will end exactly as planned....which isn't good for us.

I noticed the story changed a lot over a month. From bringing them home, to pulling them out and bringing most home to pulling them out of Iraq and into Iran.

That POS Louis Freeh was on FOX the other day pretty much assuring us war with Iran is imminent. He stated there ARE Iranian sleeper cells here in the USA ready to attack us any day now!!!!

Just like there were Iraqi sleeper cells ready to attack.....

Everything from that cesspool in DC and the media is nothing but lies and conditioning.



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Re: We're Finally Pulling Out Of Iraq #153463
10/31/2011 06:28 PM
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I have heard that they are keeping a good amount of the forces "pulling out" (aka not given protected immunity by iraqi gov't, making them accountable) are just going to bases in Kuwait and elsewhere in the Middle East.

The war trumpets are blaring for Iran, but don't forget Pakistan...they are about to be in an all-out civil war. President Karzai of Afghanistan says they will side with Pakistan if we become involved. We have 100,000 troops in Afghanistan. And then there is Syria, undergoing those Libya, Tunisia, Egypt-like protests, all of which we had a hand in covertly or overtly.

They could be planning for Iran, Pakistan, Syria, all, or some...

I dread to think that another 3 wars are on the table besides the multitudes we are involved in now.

Don't forget Yemen, Uganda, Mexico, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq (where we'll still have thousands of troops in our barricaded "embassy"), Somalia, and probably a couple more that will leak out weeks from now.

All of these wars are so brutal but none of them will we nearly as brutal as the one that will happen HERE.

ARE WE NOT AN EMPIRE?


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Re: We're Finally Pulling Out Of Iraq #153464
10/31/2011 10:27 PM
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I was kind of hoping for permanent bases in Iraq but an end to most combat operations. We had permanent bases and relative stability in Germany by 1947 with no major issues of accountability after that, and in 2011, still have most of those permanent bases along with relatively friendly relations, and one small German base in the desert southwest.

I really thought the way to go about this was going to be to just build our own high-cost city out in some open desert part of Iraq and while it would be high cost, it would be distant enough from their existing infrastructure that once it is built, it is more or less out of the way of the locals but gives the US a staging area in that region. The public would cry about the cost of building the city, but once built it would largely be supported by transparent taxes on oil revenue.

Yeah, free dictator removal services are definitely not going to be a significant part of America's future any more. Too costly, too troublesome.


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Re: We're Finally Pulling Out Of Iraq #153465
11/01/2011 04:57 AM
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Money isn't worth anything, so they probably figure they oughta spend it all up while people are still fooled.

Putting billions of dollars into an embassy ran by mercs and the CIA in the heart of their nation, and then calling this construction peaceful, is a flagrant show of disrespect to everybody's intelligence.

Maybe if we did the right thing instead of the expedient thing when it comes to foreign policy, we wouldn't need to spend all this fake money on the mil-ind-complex racket.


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