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The Ohio National Guard and those 2nd Amendment Supporters #156992
02/10/2014 04:25 PM
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During a mock disaster exercise last month, Second Amendment supporters with "anti-government opinions" were portrayed as " domestic terrorists ."

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Documents from an Ohio National Guard (ONG) training drill conducted last January reveal the details of a mock disaster where Second Amendment supporters with “anti-government” opinions were portrayed as domestic terrorists.

The ONG 52nd Civil Support Team training scenario involved a plot from local school district employees to use biological weapons in order to advance their beliefs about “protecting Gun Rights and Second Amendment rights.”

Portsmouth Chief of Police Bill Raisin told NBC 3 WSAZ-TV in Huntington, West Virginia that the drill accurately represented “the reality of the world we live in,” adding that such training “helps us all be prepared.”


Internal ONG documents provided to Media Trackers after repeated delays provide further context to what WSAZ-TV reported last winter.

In the disaster-preparedness scenario, two Portsmouth Junior High School employees poisoned school lunches with mustard gas, acting on orders from white-nationalist leader William Pierce.

The ONG team discovered biological weapons being produced in the school, requiring activation of containment and decontamination procedures.

Participants in the disaster drill located documents expressing the school employees’ “anti-government” sentiments, as well as a note identifying Pierce as the fictional right-wing terrorists’ leader.

ONG’s 52nd Civil Support Unit participated in a similar drill involving left-wing terrorists with Athens County first responders last year; public officials apologized for that training the next day in response to complaints from local environmentalist groups.

No apology to Ohioans who supported limited government and the Second Amendment appears to be forthcoming.

Scioto County Emergency Management Agency director Kim Carver refused to comment, telling Media Trackers she was “not going to get into an Ohio Army National Guard issue that you have with them.”

Ohio National Guard Communications Director James Sims II suggested Media Trackers was “inferring” from the ONG document’s contents as opposed to “what’s actually in the report.”

After excerpts of the report were read to him, Sims said it was “not relevant” to understand why conservatives may feel unduly targeted by ONG’s training scenario.

“Okay, I’m gonna stop ya there. I’m going to quit this conversation,” Sims concluded. “You have a good day.”

Buckeye Firearms Association spokesman Chad Baus told Media Trackers that “it is a scary day indeed when law enforcement are being trained that Second Amendment advocates are the enemy.”

“The revelation of this information is appalling to me, and to all citizens of Ohio who are true conservatives and patriots, who don’t have guns for any other reason than that the Second Amendment gives them that right,” Portage County TEA Party Executive Director Tom Zawistowski said in a separate Media Trackers interview.

Media Trackers reached out to Portsmouth-area state legislators Representative Terry Johnson and Senator Joe Uecker for comment about the drill, which took place within their respective districts. Neither replied to phone calls or emails in time for publication.

ONG’s January 2013 training exercise is one of many instances where government officials have identified those with limited-government or pro-Second Amendment opinions as potential terror threats.

In 2009, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security warned law enforcement agencies that a predicted rise in“right-wing extremism” would be fueled by “proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans” and “the election of the first African American president.”

Throughout modern history, groups and individuals associated with left-wing causes have proven far more likely to commit acts of domestic terror.

In 2012, members of the anarcho-socialist Occupy Cleveland movement were arrested and prosecuted for attempting to destroy the Brecksville-Northfield High Level Bridge with explosives, to commemorate International Workers’ Day.

Last year, leftist groups Earth First and the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) claimed responsibility for the sabotage and property destruction of businesses in Washington and Van Wert counties.
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Re: The Ohio National Guard and those 2nd Amendment Supporters #156993
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Have we determined who wrote those policy manuals yet? I seem to remember some dipshit Major at one of the war colleges who wrote up some scenario where the Tea Party takes over some county in Georgia or something like that, but every once in a while some troll shows up here or at my YT channel talking like they are running off the same old script. Like the fucker is going down a checklist or something.

I lost track of some of that because I thought the Army was not taking those dipshits seriously either, but apparently they are. Is that shit coming from Pitcavage? He was out of Ohio State, but I thought he was semi-retired now just screwing around with his tabletop squad leader games.


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If they want gun owners as their enemy, they have chosen well. 100 million of them. Kind of a ballsy move. Well, more of a dumb move then ballsy.

If we stick together on a united front and stand our ground. We win and they die, period. It is abundantly clear to me that they cannot count. Or perhaps they believe we do not possess the nerve or the will. Again, out of 100 million. We possess both and far above 3%. Its your move dumbass.


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Re: The Ohio National Guard and those 2nd Amendment Supporters #156995
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You know, I can actually sympathize with the National Guard here. On the one hand, yeah, maybe they are trying to get the troops accustomed to seeing us as the bad guys.

But, on the other hand, when they run a simulation like this, somebody has to be the bad guy, and it really doesn't matter who. And I'd be willing to bet if they made the bad guys a group of reptilian shape-shifting extraterrestrials from the Perseids, somebody would complain. I wonder, are we being a little too sensitive?

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If they need someone to demonize, I vote for progressive liberals as the terrorists. At least it would closer to the truth.


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Well, yeah, but they don't want to anger their own base. They probably figure the gun guys won't vote for them anyway. wink

And, actually, they did use some liberals, a couple years ago.

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...ONG’s 52nd Civil Support Unit participated in a similar drill involving left-wing terrorists with Athens County first responders last year; public officials apologized for that training the next day in response to complaints from local environmentalist groups....
Of course, they later apologized for that little faux pas. I have a feeling we'll be waiting a long time before anyone apologizes to us.

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To answer your question, are we being to sensitive? No, we are not. We are way past that now my friend. I am willing to kill them with all kinds of sensitivity. Whatever it takes to get the effing job done.

Let us be clear here. We are not playing games and joking around. If we are, I need to lighten up.


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You're probably right. Heck, you are right. But I'm just getting sick to death of everyone trying to portray themselves as some kind of victim of something. It's getting to the point where everybody is afraid to say anything, for fear of hurting somebody's feelings.

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Re: The Ohio National Guard and those 2nd Amendment Supporters #157000
02/11/2014 12:44 PM
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How many guardsmen would tip of the patriots and join them if it got bad? Around here the guard are heart and soul patriots caring nothing for the commie in chief.


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Kind of like the nazis doing a "round up the Jews" training drill in 1935... "Just a mock simulation... Totally fictional... Stop being paranoid!"

Have the done a drill on what to do when a Marxist gets elected and starts subverting the constitution and disregarding laws at will?

What would the liberals say about that?


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Eh, training is training I guess. Back in the 1990s I was part of an Army OPFOR group that was specifically training one of the armored brigades on how to kill police during mass arrests and gun confiscation.

The main difference of course was that wiping out a police force was just fine as long as it was Serbs in Kosovo, but I remember how the NATO standard rule of engagement and law of war briefings went.

A "neutral" military or paramilitary force did not have permission to engage to prevent gun confiscation, but gun confiscation was one of the recognized indicators that human rights violations were coming up. Once there was gun confiscation, then mass arrests of obvious non-combatants would follow (like rounding up kids in a school).

The green light indicator in the scenarios which changed the status of the police from lawful force to "uniform of the enemy doctrine" and actually not even under much legal protection was summary executions in the street. I remember because I was playing the role of Serbian cop on lookout duty when the "commander' executed someone on the street below. As soon as that took place (I was unaware) then all hell broke loose from the armored vehicles and wiped us out within 30 seconds. I had thought the scenario was going to play out for a few days with a "siege", but I was told that as soon as the "human rights violation" was verified by observers, the military force had the right to wipe us out, go to chow, and head back to the barracks before dark. None of that stand around and observe and discuss shit.

It looks to me like maybe the NG unit in Ohio was experimenting with a further playout of the other side of that same type of scenario.


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So it would make sense that the foremost group to engage a military force in any "martial law" scenario would have been the gunowners who had felt the first wave of arrests and searches, and their children rounded up at the school for detention, relocation, and reintegration with some outside care agency.

The scenario is also not nearly as unrealistic as you might think. Imagine state level gun control and gun confiscations taking place. The US Army being mobilized, but publicly trying hard to claim neutrality while every side in the brewing conflict is asking them to intervene.

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