And it was my congressman, R...n Housing at Ft. Sill, in our own state. No matter how you feel about "illegal" immigration (I'm an open borders kind of guy, while Rep. Bridenstine and just about everyone else is not), this is awfully darn suspicious.

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airforce

Airforce, I tried to P.M. this but there was an error, so I am wondering why you are for open borders? I mean no dis-respect sir, it's more of an inquiring mind wants to know.

I got your PM, but I also got an error message when I tried to reply to it. Our software can be pretty clunky sometimes. So, here's my answer:

The short answer is, because I'm a free market anarchist. I consider the freedom to travel a human right, not some right "granted" to us by a piece of paper.

A longer answer is, if we didn't want these people to come here, we shouldn't be effectively forcing them to come. Our War on Drugs makes it unsafe for them to stay where they're at, our welfare state pays them to come here, and our minimum wage laws force employers to hire them before they hire American teenagers.

A vibrant economy needs low-wage workers. When I was a kid back in the stone age, a lot of my friends got after-school jobs pumping gas and checking the oil for customers at gas stations. Still others got jobs bagging groceries, put the groceries into the cart, and then not only pushing the cart out to the customer's car or truck, but loading the groceries for the customer.

When was the last time you saw somebody do all that for you?

Those jobs are gone forever. So are jobs in textiles, in electronics manufacturing, everywhere. Corporate taxes are too high, minimum wage laws price U.S. manufacturers out of the market, and teenagers can't get jobs.

People say that "illegal" immigrants don't pay taxes. Well, of course they do. Even if they're paid in cash off the books, they still must pay sales taxes and excise taxes on everything they buy, and property taxes in their rent. Cities and states are broke already; take away these taxes, and even more of them will be declaring bankruptcy.

You don't see too many grocery stores, movie theaters, or any other businesses turning away "illegal" aliens, do you? Of course not. They depend on "illegal" aliens, too.

If you want to limit the number of Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Hondurans from crossing our borders, then building 50-foot fences or putting armies on the border isn't going to do it. Stop making laws that force them to come here, and force employers to "illegally" hire them.

And finally, if you disagree with me, don't worry. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person here with this opinion.

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airforce

Who is to blame for all the children crossing our border? According to a new poll, 59% of Americans blame President Obama . Another 65% blame him for the lost IRS emails, and 56% blame him for the mess in Iraq.

And in another poll, most now say that Obama has eclipsed both George Bush and Jimmy Carter as the worst President since WWII.

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airforce

Funny how people ask why they come. Simple make to the us and you will be given free food shelter medical. Even though there are laws that forbid this. Just like the constitution it is only enforced when it is in the best interest of the system.
Welcome to Amerikia.

It's not enforced because it's impossible to enforce. In part because it's physically impossible to enforce, and in part because no one really wants to enforce it. For what it's worth, the Obama administration in five years deported more "illegal" aliens that the Bush administration did in eight. You really can't blame the Obama administration for not enforcing the law. He's doing a better job of it than Clinton or Bush did.

I love how both parties are demanding that "something be done" about immigration. Well, end the War on Drugs, dismantle the welfare state, and abolish minimum wage laws. It's that simple.

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airforce

Here is Rep. Bridenstine with Greta van Susteren , talking about his experience at Ft. Sill. About four minutes.

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So.... We catch these illegal children at/near the border. We process them, and send them (at tax payer expense) to their "sponsor" who may or may not also themselves be illegal????

Is it just me or is this insane?

It sounds like a report you would hear on April 1st...

It should go like this... Catch them at/near the border. Process them. Take detailed finger prints. Deport them home. Send papers with them saying if they want to immigrate.... THESE are the steps. Paper also states that if they are ever caught in the US illegally, they will be banned from even visiting for life!

At T+5 minutes of me getting authorization from a congressman and a signature confirmation from a judge authorizing entry and inspection of the facility that security guard and his boss would be either face down wearing zip ties or face down in a pool of blood (their choice) and me and the Congressman would be checking the place out at our leisure.

Once the kids are here, we are stuck with them, that's that, for better or for worse, but it looks to me like there are some immediate concerns regarding how they are treated in the facility. Such facilities should be as open to outside inspection as any other public facility.

Why are we stuck with them? I was unaware of an actual law (not counting Obama's imperial dictates) stating that there was an open unrestricted border for those under 18).

This makes me sick.

I want my country back!

It is in tons of case law involving unaccompanied minors. There is actually no new law on this, just someone figured how to connect dots on existing law.

This was going on with a lot of European Jews leading up to WW2, Nazis were not strong on interrogating children to determine ethnicity, and my grandmother had been able to travel as a teenager through Nazi Germany, neither were US Authorities or neutral country authorities, so the cheapest way to get someone in a family rescued or out of a conflict zone was to send the kids on their own, and most civilized countries maintain that unaccompanied children go into the foster care /orphanage system. Nobody does organized infanticide and if a country ejects unaccompanied children and refuses care, it is seen as heartless and barbaric. The US State Department would never live it down in the eyes of the Europeans, or any civilized country.

The Irish were known for this in a few immigration waves, buying passage for children to get them out of the UK where their expected lot in life was to beg, someone would scrape passage for them to get on a Steamer, with the hopes that whatever life they had in America was going to be better odds than in Ireland during the potato famine. Quite often a 13-15 year old looking after younger siblings.

Individually, shit comes down on municipal agencies even if someone figures out unaccompanied minors are begging on the street, and if some law enforcement organization were to come down hard on someone helping children like that, the Vatican would roll down on them so hard, it would not be pretty.

Rep. Bridenstine has been offered a "tour" of the unaccompanied children facility at Ft. Sill, with these rules:

1. No pictures.
3. No questions.
2. No talking to the staff.
3. No talking to the children.
4. If you want pictures, HHS will provide them.

You can't make this stuff up.

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airforce

This is too bizarre! They can make these statements with no fear of repercussions... Doesn't congress control anything? Cut the executive branch's funds till demands are met!

Rep. Bridenstine will tour the facility tomorrow. Here is the letter he sent to HHS detailing who he expects to have access to, and direct questions to, at the facility.

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airforce

Rep Bridenstine has now toured the facility , and is satisfied with the "transparency."

He has not responded to any of my entreaties, to just let the children go. We've been destroying Latin American society for forty years in the name of the "War on Drugs," so it seems more than a little hypocritical to accuse these children of threatening OUR sovereignty.

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airforce

We stand on two different opinions here as I am still not an economic anarchist. We are under invasion, pure can simple. An army can wage war with guns or through economics. If you think further about it, this is pure Cloward-Pivens.

In the past few years, the number of illegals coming here represents roughly 25% of our army and exceeds the number of actual combat troops. At 20-30 million illegal aliens in the US, the number exceeds our military and civilian police by more than 20X. If SHTF, which side will these people take?

I neither condone the formation of refugee camps nor setting people free on their own cognances as they criminally trespassed and violated US borders.

These migrants should have been turned around and sent back to Mexico and their countries of origination. I don't care about the 2008 law. Who the heck ran congress at that time? Our immigration laws require identification, clean health records, and financial security to immigrate here. Why should current citizens pay for the economic benefits of those that want to come here illegally? Loss of jobs and lower income due to excess labor is a economic burden without handouts. As an adolescent, I had no trouble performing the jobs that supposedly nobody wants today.

We are a sovereign country with defined borders and immigration laws. Those that come to our country without respect for our laws should be either turned around and sent home immediately or imprisoned. I have no problem using outdoor camps (plus courts) like Sheriff Arpaio's in Phoenix. This should not be a happy place.

I believe in charity but I don't believe in government sponsored welfare or charity. Once you start handing out goodies to some and not all, the rest start asking why not me? You can hear it in the arguments today where a man complains that illegals get free healthcare but his kids don't. Darn slippery slope.

I'm the one who's out of step with everyone else. But if we want other people to respect our sovereignty and our borders, then we probably shouldn't be messing around in the internal affairs of every other country in the hemisphere. But that's just my opinion, and it's a lonely one sometimes.

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airforce

Congressman Briedenstine\'s comments after touring the UAC facility at Fort Sill


I'll refrain from commenting. My blood pressure is high enough as it is.

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airforce

Yep, it is now leaking out from several sources. They got wind that the latest from the Islamo/facists and their secretive Dajjal leadership in the Arabian peninsula is that funding was handed over for a mass operation of "Ebola Martyrs" which would match a program they did with Boko Haram, using infected children to spread desease in targeted areas.

The idea is that the children will infect other children, who will in turn infect parents at home. That destroys a generation of the targeted population.

So, if the immigration is stopped cold, the disease spreads in Mexico where their plutocrats would of course protect themselves but refuse to handle it and let 2/3 of their population die, many of whom would pour over the borders for help, but then get massacred by the military response, causing war with America.

If the kids are picked up and put into secret quarantine, then maybe the disease contained long enough to come up with vaccines or cures. Hence, once it got explained to the congressman, he changed his tune entirely.

This one is scary folks, but not for reasons we have been led to think. This would have to involve investigation on a massive but discreet scale. The game now, is to try and find, contain and eliminate safe-houses in Latin America or the Caribbean where the children are purposefully infected with the virus and probably trained in some way before being turned loose. They may have been trained to lie, make friends, and then use their blood to infect others.

If the Jihadi scientists came up with a form of the disease which remains dormant but infectious for a while, then that's it, and we are seriously fucked.

I see how this is all going to go too. Someone will figure out this shit all came from some obscure branch of the Saudi ruling families, seize their assets, blame them entirely, and then they go running to the Saudi government for help. The Saudi Government flips on us, joins up with Iran, and then hits NYC with a nuclear attack. They lack the accuracy to hit the city, but there was some other indication that they could hit the ocean with a nuke far enough out to sea not to be intercepted, and then the radioactive tidal wave is what hits the city. Even if they can reduce the drowning deaths and such, you are talking radioactive seawater, and the source of the attack ambiguous enough that it would have the conspiracy theorists going for decades while the perpetrators could still deny doing it.

Saudis have never been our friends. And never will.

I do believe that Biowarfare is coming to the US from anti-Americans, whoever they may be. I am not sure that Ebola is the best agent but a possible agent. I don't think that we needed to bring Ebola patients to the US but I was wrong with how quickly they responded to therapy.

I do believe that Ebola will be used around the world as an agent. The projected cure of 2 Americans suggests that Ebola is not the killer that is of the greatest concern. I am more worried about airborne viruses like SARS and the 1917 Spanish Flu. SARS burned itself out via quarantine, otherwise it could have been a pandemic.