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Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149645
06/07/2007 11:30 AM
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An "isolated incident," of course.

This one's got it all. Terrified immigrants who don't speak English, a roughed-up pregnant woman, a man kicked in the groin, another woman with a heart condition, flashbang grenades, and assurances from the cops that this kind of thing happens "not very often." Fortunately no one was killed. Only terrified.

The police never contacted the landlord of the residence to verify. And when they raided the "right" address, the place was empty.

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The other tenants would not give their names for fear of retaliation.
Hispanics make great citizens - they come ready with a fear of the law. Why not let 10s of millions of them in?

And those with ego - the men in particular and you see it when they drive - won't like being in fear.

They will make great cops and follow any orders.


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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149647
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Originally posted by Doktor_Jeep:
Hispanics make great citizens - they come ready with a fear of the law.
It's what they were taught in their home countries--and what we're teaching our own citizens now.

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We are just now learning the lessons of fearing corrupt officials and enforcement officers.

I lived in Brazil; the police there were feared more than the cartel leadership.

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Flashbangs? Wow they went easy on them, they gave scott woodring's place two satchels taped together.

Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149650
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And Another One

New York City:

Cops in New York City are accused of wrongly breaking into a local man's home this month, holding him at gunpoint, then stealing $2,000 from a jacket.

The May 9 incident was a result of a raid in which the police officers were given faulty information, the New York Daily News reported Sunday.

"They didn't tell me what they were looking for or why they were here," said Alisaleh Moshad Ali, 50, the Yemeni immigrant whose house was broken into. "They just told me to get on the floor."

The police later apologized, after finding that they were at the wrong address. However, Ali and his wife, Leslie, 30, have not received any explanation for the $2,000 Ali says went missing from his jacket, which was in a closet.

Police argue Ali left the house for 30 minutes after the incident, leaving someone else the opportunity to steal the money since the door was reportedly broken.

The Daily News reported the police department has been receiving an increased number of complaints involving raids on the wrong homes.


The list just keeps growing.

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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149651
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Near Durango, Colorado:

Law-enforcement officers raided the wrong house and forced a 77-year-old La Plata County woman on oxygen to the ground last week in search of methamphetamine.

The raid occurred about 11 a.m. June 8, as Virginia Herrick was settling in to watch "The Price is Right." She heard a rustling outside her mobile home in Durango West I and looked out to see several men with gas masks and bulletproof vests, she said.

Herrick went to the back door to have a look.

"I thought there was a gas leak or something," she said.

But before reaching the door, La Plata County Sheriff's deputies shouted "search warrant, search warrant" and barged in with guns drawn, she said. They ordered Herrick to the ground and began searching the home.

"They didn't give me a chance to ask for a search warrant or see a search warrant or anything," she said in a phone interview Thursday. "I'm not about to argue with those big old guys, especially when they've got guns and those big old sledgehammers."


They'd been investigating the trailer next door for a month, but still managed to hit the wrong home.

Herrick's son, David Herrick, said investigators surveilled the neighbor's house before the raid, and it was extremely unprofessional to enter the wrong house.

"There is a big difference between 74 and 82," he said, referring to the house numbers.

What's more, Herrick doesn't understand why his 77-year-old mother was handcuffed.

"Why they thought it was necessary to handcuff her and put her on the floor I don't know," he said. "And then they had to ask her what the address was."


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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149652
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The "energizer" commercial comes to mind with these recurring "Keystone Cop" "incidents"......."They keep going & going & going" & etc., et cetera! wink


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At this point I am wondering if the cops are doing this on purpose.


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HA! On purpose? That's a good point DJ.

They may very well be PREPPING us for acceptance of the "storm trooper" mentality. You know, kickin in doors, guns to the heads, yelling, screaming, mis-treatment at the hands of oppressors, possible "accidental" deaths that get forgiven in the name of "it was all a terrible mistake", etc.

God help us if it is, in fact, on purpose. We're in for some deep doo-doo ahead!! frown


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Originally posted by A.Patriot2:
God help us if it is, in fact, on purpose. We're in for some deep doo-doo ahead!! frown
If they are, they're going about it with the typical government inefficiency. Municipalities are being sued, cops are losing their jobs and even going to prison, and "no-knock" raids have virtually come to a halt in Atlanta (where Kathryn Johnston was killed).

This is actually a pretty good argument against all those conspiracy theories I keep hearing about. If they can't even cover up a botched raid, it would be pretty hard to envision them pulling off a giant 9/11 conspiracy. wink

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heh, except for one point. Its like the way the BATF handles paperwork...one or two errors can be covered up, but when there are thousands of them, eventually some will slip into the public eye. Eventually some people will take notice. Unfortunately its probably like the cockroach analogy. For every one we see, there are ten or twenty or one hundered that have gone off under our noses.


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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149657
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Originally posted by Coolhand:
For every one we see, there are ten or twenty or one hundred that have gone off under our noses.
True. I honestly don't know how many of these we are missing. Many victims are simply too afraid of reprisals to complain.

And, I'm sure we're missing some ourselves. If you know of a raid gone bad, let Radley Balko or myself know about it.

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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149658
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This one in Louisiana:

THIBODAUX, La. -- Two Lafourche Parish Sheriff's Office narcotics agents burst into the wrong house during a raid in Galliano earlier this week and now face possible disciplinary action.

Sheriff Craig Webre classified the mistake as "very rare" and said the agents, Lt. Chet Caillouet and Deputy Robert Mason, likely used the wrong two-story house as a reference point.

Hundreds of search warrants are executed each year, Webre said. He said he recalled only two such mistakes in the past 15 years.

"If you're the person on the receiving end, one in 1,000 or one in 100,000 is too much," Webre said.

Mike Lefort said he was lying on his sofa when officers broke his screen door Monday night and announced, "Police! Police! Get down!"

"They were apologetic afterward," said Lefort, 61. "They realized they had made a mistake."

Lefort added his mother, Thelma Lefort, had a tough time overcoming the initial shock of the police entering her home. The 83-year-old's blood pressure rose, her son said.

The Sheriff's Office replaced the wooden screen door with a new one, said Lefort, who added that he is deciding whether to take legal action.

Webre said he plans to insert an extra layer of security to prevent similar mistakes: one person will prepare the warrant and a second person will verify it before it is executed.


No drugs. Just an 83-year-old woman and her son.

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I blame all this on judges who rubber stamp warrants and provide no judicial oversignt. These stock warrants are signed, fired, and forgotten.


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I blame all this on judges who rubber stamp warrants and provide no judicial oversignt. These stock warrants are signed, fired, and forgotten.
Yep. I sometimes wonder why they bother to have a judge "sign" the warrants at all.

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i THINK THEY PHONE THEM IN!! mad


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i THINK THEY PHONE THEM IN!! mad
Many of them, they do. And, yes, I share your anger. If it is a life or death situation, no warrant is required anyway; I see very little reason for telephonic search warrants.

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They use them as a matter of routine in DUI enforcement.They need concent or a warrant to draw blood for BAC evidence.


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Weapons "cache" discovered and reported by snooping maintenance man.

The guns were legal but seized anyway. Child porn charges pending.

I'm convinced that "child pornography" charges are the modern day version of the old "throw down piece." They realized they were in the wrong and "threw down" the child porn charges to make it appear as though there was in fact justification for their actions.

I know child porn is a problem and it's traffickers deserve the most severe penalty possible, but the JBTs way over use it to stir up public opinion against someone they are out to get.


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Originally posted by McMedic:
Weapons "cache" discovered and reported by snooping maintenance man.

The guns were legal but seized anyway. Child porn charges pending.

I'm convinced that "child pornography" charges are the modern day version of the old "throw down piece." They realized they were in the wrong and "threw down" the child porn charges to make it appear as though there was in fact justification for their actions.

I know child porn is a problem and it's traffickers deserve the most severe penalty possible, but the JBTs way over use it to stir up public opinion against someone they are out to get.
McMedic, You hit the nail on the head. That is exactly the way they are using "child porn."


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Cajun, you've got that one pegged! It's the "HOT BUTTON" "RIGHTEOUS" issue that garrantees SERIOUS scrutiny.

And, LIKELY, you're right on the "THEY REALIZED THEY WERE WRONG ..."

Very likely! (You know, it's awfully expensive to get ALL of those high quality firearms...why not just "AQUIRE" them, thru FORFITURE ... hmmmmm?


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The scary thing is, with all the spammers around, it's hard to find a computer that doesn't have child porn on it somewhere.

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The scary thing is, with all the spammers around, it's hard to find a computer that doesn't have child porn on it somewhere.
Makes you wonder if the JBTs aren't doing a little preemptive "seeding." Disseminate that crap to any and everyone and it's there when they need it. A pre-placed "safety net" if you will.


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There are a lot of old tricks out there to put images on a computer that won't show up on a browser.

Java .jar files can contain images and even if the image is not used it can be renamed to .zip and unpacked by anyone and pictures extracted. This is why those java programs that require you to allow the applet to download a .jar file locally (some do that), should only come from a trusted source.

The "height=0 width=0" HTML tag is another one. That used to be done with HTML email programs years ago when you wanted to see of someone opens an email you send to them. It works more on a CGI script approach that drives a counter, like those hit counters you see on web pages. On the other end they can tell if you actually opened the email or not, and you never see a picture but that picture can be cached in the computer, like every image you see. Spammers use this technique to see if the email they are spamming is active or not. This is why opening spam mail is like opening a flood gate.

Another possible trick, though I have not seen done actively, is to use the alpha portion of a .png or similar image file format where each BIT of the image has an additional element to it that can form the array for an entire different image. Kind of like "invisible ink".


By the way, do not leave any firearms out for maintenence men to see. People get off on calling the state, it makes them feel important to rat on somebody. Especially where guns are involved and the person who finds them is among the indoctrinated who thinks that everybody who has them is a terrorist. If there is no room in the cache then just leave out the bolt-actions.


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Sounds like everyone should have a thermite charge on top of their Hard Drive even if they don't think they have anything to hide, just in case.


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Better idea. Rigg the front part of the house and when they kick in the door, let them wear the whole front side of the house. They'll get the picture real quick!!


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What really pisses me off, is that if someone fought back to save their own lives, that person would later be put to death for being a "cop killer".

The mentality they eventually want us all to have is this...
They want it so that one day, cops can randomly knock on a persons door, demand they hand over their teenage girl for forced "entertainment" and "morale boosting", and have a submissive population that would be willing to do so.

Anyone who resists, would be widely ridiculed as "un-patriotic" and "against the troops!" and an evil "Subversive"...

One time I mentioned a botched raid to someone before, and how horrible it was what they did to the occupants of the home. And of course, the person said "Well you werent there, you cant judge them for what they did. You dont know if it was necessary "

OF course, if the guy had SHOT THEM all to death, thinking they were criminals, that same consideration wouldnt be given....

The mindset they want, is they want a population that sees itself as slaves, that sees government police, soldiers, and agents as a kind of demi-god, and anyone who resists as "evil", "ungodly","anti-social" insurgents and "Terrorists"


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Three days after her name appeared in a Chicago Sun Times report about police harassment of residents in her public housing facility, a narcotics team raided the home of 63-year-old grandmother Carol Wallace.

Carol Wallace, a 63-year-old grandmother, has no criminal record and said she has never had any run-ins with the police in her 10 years at the Dearborn Homes public housing complex. She accused the police of trying to silence her.

"They did this just to harass me," Wallace said. "My nerves are shot, and I'm afraid. I feel like I've been violated."

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Wallace said about six of the officers dumped clothes from a dresser and closet on her bed and floor and rifled through her medications. Police also told a friend at the apartment that visitors weren't allowed, she said.


It may have been another case of a wrong-door raid, rather than retaliation. The description of the suspect in the warrant seems to fit one of Wallace's neighbors.

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I think high on my priorty list would be to whip the maintenance man's ass.

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U know they WILL label anyone who defends themselves against BLUE Nazi's as "cop-killers".

Two realities we NEED to remember.
ONE: Cops are "Blue Knights" to the citizenry, therefore permanent hero types

TWO: Fellow cops kill [so-called] cop killers no matter what the reason their comrade was killed.

It's pretty much us against them now. That IS REALITY on any given day, infraction, etc. frown


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you have it right AP2, cops figure that they have the right to kill citizens by mistake or because they felt threatened by that cell phone he was holding, but defend your self from a trigger happy cop and they will try to make you pay... They do not want you to go to trial... you just might get off.. mad


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The scary thing is, with all the spammers around, it's hard to find a computer that doesn't have child porn on it somewhere.
Makes you wonder if the JBTs aren't doing a little preemptive "seeding." Disseminate that crap to any and everyone and it's there when they need it. A pre-placed "safety net" if you will.
The internet started as a DARPA project and porn is the number one industry on the net. I am sure they can seed what ever they want.


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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149678
08/01/2007 08:09 PM
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From Jasper, Texas:

According to the amended lawsuit, the officers had obtained a search warrant on Sept. 28, 2006 to enter a residence at 126 Circle Drive in Brookeland. The Hunts reside in a mobile home located at 940 Church Street in Brookeland.

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The lawsuit alleges that Hunter, Tomplain, Noyola, Poindexter, Erimias, Coulter, Payne and Hall "broke in the door and trashed the house. They kicked in two doors, tore up three lamps and tore down the gate coming into the house.

Officers confronted the Hunts at the rear door of the home and ordered them down at gunpoint, according to the lawsuit.

"All the defendants left the house after they terrorized both plaintiffs and trashed the premises when defendant Hunter belatedly told everybody that they were in the wrong house," the lawsuit states.

Officials could not comment on the lawsuit.


Note too that this happened in September of last year, and wasn't reported. Were it not for the lawsuit, we'd never have known this had happened. How many other people have had this happened to them, but were too frightened or scared to go the media, were ignored by the local media, or couldn't find a lawyer to bring a lawsuit?

Onward and upward,
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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149679
08/11/2007 08:18 AM
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Here's another one we missed the first time around.

“The lady (SWAT officer) says ‘Mother F-----, I said get down or I’ll blow your f------ brains out,’” Roach said. “We were just blown away. We didn’t know what was happening, it happened so fast.”

Court documents showed police were acting on a tip from an informant that crack cocaine was being sold from Roach’s address at the time, 1773 Wilson Avenue.

A search warrant listing that address was executed and, afterward, Roach said a SWAT team pointed guns at his family, including six children ages one to 16. Then police discovered the informant had given the wrong information.


The raid happened in December 2004. It's in the news because the family's lawsuit was just thrown out of court on qualified immunity grounds.

“It is fundamentally under Kentucky law that the power to exercise an honest discretion necessarily includes a power to make an honest mistake in judgement,” the judgment read.

Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney William O’Brien said the judgment exonerates the city from any liability and that it’s a balancing act of society’s needs.


So what incentive is there to not take shortcuts, and make sure the informant knows what he's talking about next time?

Folks, we need your help. We honestly don't know how many of these "isolated incidents" we're missing, because we don't hear about them. If you hear of one of these incidents in your area, please email me at billyroberts@pccompsoft.net with as much information as you can, including any local news stories (if any).

We are making headway on this, but we need to keep the pressure on.

Onward and upward,
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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149680
09/02/2007 08:16 AM
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Two more to report. First, in Temecula, California:

While Williams said he could not discuss specifics, he did confirm that a raid conducted by the Street Enforcement Team last week ---- which ended up at the wrong Temecula house ---- is part of the administrative investigation.

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Williams said he believes the team was supposed to be raiding a parolee's home Aug. 24 when they inadvertently hit the wrong door.

Officers ended up at the home of David and Lillian Scott, just off Rancho California Road.

Lillian Scott said she and her husband were in the living room discussing family plans, their 15-year-old daughter was in the garage with two friends and their 16-year-old son was in another room feeding the Scotts' 5-month-old baby.

That all changed at 9:35 p.m. she said, when Temecula police officers ---- four or five, she's not sure ----- carrying rifles charged though the unlocked front screen door and ordered the couple to the floor.

"Two of them came over and put handcuffs on the two of us," Lillian Scott said. "We asked what we had done wrong and didn't get an answer."

Elsewhere in the house other officers handcuffed their daughter and her two friends.

"(The officers) told them to get down on the f---ing floor," she said.

Her 16-year-old son, who was feeding the baby, was also ordered to the floor and handcuffed, Scott said.

From the other room, Scott heard her infant crying.

"I asked if my baby was OK and the officer told me if I moved he was going to put a bullet in my head," Scott said.


The officers apparently figured out they'd hit the wrong home when they'd cleared the second floor, then realized they were only supposed to be in a one-story home, something you'd think they might have verified before tearing down the front door. Here, at least, the city has been apologetic, and is talking about making a settlement offer to the family.

The second comes from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania:

The door had to be repaired this morning after police reportedly rammed it during a raid on Norma Saunders South Philadelphia home Friday night. Her bedrooms were ransacked, drawers overturned and kitchen cupboards emptied onto the floor. According to a search warrant, police were looking for drugs and weapons.

Away for a family reunion at the time, Saunders returned when her alarm company called. When she returned she found the security system was ripped from the wall.

Norma tells Action News, "When I came home my neighbors ran up to me and said, 'Norma they had the wrong house. We tried to tell them they had the wrong house.'"

"This has never been a drug house. We've never had a problem with this home at all. So this I knew this had to be a major mistake," said Reverend Tobin Young.

Neighbors say police simultaneously raided another house on the block and placed several people in handcuffs.

68-year-old Saunders, a great-grandparent and retired veterans hospital nurse with heart problems, contends she has no dealings with drugs, nor does her 50-year-old son who works security at Abington Hospital while pursuing a college degree in computer science.


At least they weren't home to experience the violence in person. And the War on Drugs continues...

Onward and upward,
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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149681
09/02/2007 06:38 PM
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The officers apparently figured out they'd hit the wrong home when they'd cleared the second floor, then realized they were only supposed to be in a one-story home, something you'd think they might have verified before tearing down the front door. Here, at least, the city has been apologetic, and is talking about making a settlement offer to the family.
if they are that stupid then I can worry less.

I wonder if this family sits around the radio and TV for the O'HannityBuagh dosage and clamors for more police state?

Or was up to that point.

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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149682
09/03/2007 02:27 PM
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How much more of this bull$hit are people going to take? What they need to do is go to the head cops house and do the same thing to him. Cuss him and his wife like a dog, slap her around, take him outside and beat the living hell out of him and go home after they ransack his house! I can't believe this crap???????????? Oh, and just for an encore, leave his car upside down in the front yard!!


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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149683
09/03/2007 02:59 PM
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Hope the settlement is in like 8-12 figures.

The stress, the stress....


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Re: Another Botched Raid - Incident Report #149684
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Hope the settlement is in like 8-12 figures.

The stress, the stress....
Except that the LEOs are exempt from personal responsiblity because they typically work for a an incorporated municipality, and thus who ultimately foots the bill for malicious or incompetent police activity?

We the People!


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