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U.S. Invasion of Libya Set for October

Aaron Dykes
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June 15, 2011


Infowars.com has received alarming reports from within the ranks of military stationed at Ft. Hood, Texas confirming plans to initiate a full-scale U.S.-led ground invasion in Libya and deploy troops by October.

The source stated that additional Special Forces are headed to Libya in July, with the 1st Calvary Division (heavy armor) and III Corps deploying in late October and early November. Initial numbers are estimated at 12,000 active forces and another 15,000 in support, totaling nearly 30,000 troops.

This information was confirmed by numerous calls and e-mails from other military personnel, some indicating large troop deployment as early as September. Among these supporting sources is a British S.A.S. officer confirming that U.S. Army Rangers are already in Libya. The chatter differs in the details, but the overall convergence is clear– that a full-on war is emerging this fall as Gaddafi continues to evade attempts to remove him from power.

A caller identified as “Specialist H” working for mortuary affairs under USCENTCOM revealed that there have already been American casualties inside Libya. He confirmed that at least 2 soldiers and 3 civilians have died from combat bullet wounds, something the media has yet to report, and needs to investigate and address.

Geo-political expert Dr. Webster Tarpley also told the Alex Jones Show today that wider war is being planned for Libya, while the count of simultaneous U.S. wars has reached five conflicts– including Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya and Yemen. The potential for an even greater spread of regional conflict could well provoke a World War III scenario, drawing in tenuous nations like Syria, Lebanon, Iran or even Saudi Arabia, according to Tarpley.

For his part, President Obama has brushed off demands to answer to Congress for continuing military action beyond the 60 day limit set under the war powers act. The engagement he first claimed would be over in mere days, Obama then dubbed a “kinetic action” rather than a war. Further, Obama has justified his commitment of American forces under a United Nations mandate, unconcerned by his own admission with the will of Congress. Now, with significant overlap in reports, we can confirm an apparent decision by Obama to support wider war and a longer-term involvement in Libya.

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"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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US Warships Moved To Syrian Coast



Military intervention nears even as Obama administration prepares to launch full ground war in Libya


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, June 16, 2011

Even as the Obama administration prepares to launch a full ground war in Libya while expanding its drone attacks inside Yemen and Pakistan, US warships are being moved towards the Mediterrenean coast of Syria, precisely in line with forecasts that the Bilderberg Group intended to launch a massive new war in the Middle East, with Syria being its prime target.

In addition to information received by Infowars from military sources at Ft. Hood who tell us that troops are being readied for a full-scale U.S.-led ground invasion of Libya by October, the Obama administration is simultaneously considering opening up yet another front, by moving the USS Bataan amphibian air carrier strike vessel, along with 2,000 marines, 6 war planes, and 15 attack helicopters to a location just off the Syrian coast.

“This huge concentration of naval missile interceptor units looks like preparations by Washington for the contingency of Iran, Syria and Hizballah letting loose with surface missiles against US and Israeli targets in the event of US military intervention to stop the anti-opposition slaughter underway in Syria,” reports DebkaFile.

Another indication that the US is planning an intervention in Syria is the fact that Hizballah has moved its rockets from northern Lebanon to areas in the center of the country, acting on a warning from Iranian intelligence to move the weaponry “out of range of a possible American operation in Syria”.

Veteran reporter Jim Tucker’s warning, provided to him by his routinely accurate inside sources, that the powerful Bilderberg Group was planning a gargantuan new war in the Middle East to outstrip anything taking place in Libya, is now moving forward.

On Monday, journalist Adrian Salbuchi also told Russia Today that Bilderberg’s “hidden agenda” towards Syria would make itself visible after the conclusion of the elitist confab in St. Moritz, Switzerland, a forecast already coming to fruition.

Syrian rights organizations say that around 1,300 civilians have been killed since the start of the uprising in March against President Bashar Assad. Around 300 soldiers and police have also been killed. Thousands of Syrians fled the town of Maarat al-Numaan yesterday as government troops and tanks moved north.

The US military-industrial complex has been very choosy about who it targets for regime change under the umbrella of “humanitarian intervention”. Despite the fact that protesters in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia have been the victims of similarly brutal government crackdowns, the US has turned a blind eye.

Quite how the Obama administration believes the United States can afford to prosecute yet another war while it is still engaged in two major occupations and a number of other regional conflicts, and as top ratings agencies warn the country is about to lose its triple A credit status due to insurmountable debt problems, is a mystery.

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Insider Leaks Reveal Full Bilderberg Agenda On War and Alternative Media

http://www.prisonplanet.com/insider...agenda-on-war-and-alternative-media.html


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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US building secret CIA base in Gulf to counter Al-Qaeda



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"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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The last article is pure propaganda, these idiots don't even try any more.


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BREAKING NEWS: The Pentagon to Send US Troops to Israel. Iran is the Unspoken Target
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January 2, 2012. Jerusalem. In one of the most blacked-out stories in America right now, the US military is preparing to send thousands of US troops, along with US Naval anti-missile ships and accompanying support personnel, to Israel.

It took forever to find a second source for confirmation of this story and both relatively mainstream media outlets are in Israel. With one source saying the military deployment and corresponding exercises are to occur in January, the source providing most of the details suggests it will occur later this spring. Calling it not just an “exercise”, but a “deployment”, the Jerusalem Post quotes US Lt.-Gen Frank Gorenc, Commander of the US Third Air Force based in Germany. The US Commander visited Israel two weeks ago to confirm details for “the deployment of several thousand American soldiers to Israel.” In an effort to respond to recent Iranian threats and counter-threats, Israel announced the largest ever missile defense exercise in its history. Now, it’s reported that the US military, including the US Navy, will be stationed throughout Israel, also taking part.

While American troops will be stationed in Israel for an unspecified amount of time, Israeli military personnel will be added to EUCOM in Germany. EUCOM stands for United States European Command.

In preparation for anticipated Iranian missile attacks upon Israel, the US is reportedly bringing its THAAD, Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, and ship-based Aegis ballistic missile systems to Israel. The US forces will join Israeli missile defense systems like the Patriot and Arrow. The deployment comes with “the ultimate goal of establishing joint task forces in the event of a large-scale conflict in the Middle East”.

The Jerusalem Post reports that US Lt.-Gen Frank Gorenc was in Israel meeting with his Israeli counterpart, Brig.-Gen Doron Gavish, commander of the Air Defense Division. While there, the US General visited one of Israel’s three ‘Iron Dome’ anti-missile outposts. The Israeli Air Force has announced plans to deploy a fourth Iron Dome system in the coming months. Additional spending increases in the Jewish state will guarantee the manufacture and deployment of three more Iron Dome systems by the end of 2012. The Israelis are hoping to eventually have at least a dozen of the anti-missile systems deployed along its northern and southern borders.

In a show of escalated tensions in the region, Iran test fired two long range missiles today. One, called the Qadar, is a powerful sea-to-shore missile. The other was an advanced surface-to-surface missile called the Nour. According to Iranian state news, the Nour is an ‘advanced radar-evading, target-seeking, guided and controlled missile’. Additionally, the Iranian military reportedly test-fired numerous other short, medium and long-range missiles. Yesterday, Iranian authorities reported that they test-fired the medium-range, surface-to-air, radar-evading Mehrab missile. Today is supposed to be the final day of Iranian naval drills in the Straits of Hormuz.

Iran recently made global headlines when it threatened to blockade the Straits of Hormuz if Europe and the US went ahead with their boycott of Iranian oil and the country’s central bank. One-quarter of the world’s oil passes through that waterway every day. President Obama has announced that a closure of the Straits was unacceptable and vowed to take whatever measures are necessary to keep the vital shipping lane open.

In response to the Iranian missile tests this weekend, French authorities were the first to respond, calling it a, “very bad signal to the international community."We want to underline that the development by Iran of a missile program is a source of great concern to the international community,"the French Foreign Ministry said in a written statement. Israeli officials suggested the flamboyant Iranian military drills this weekend were a sign that international sanctions on the country were taking a heavy toll and that any additional boycotts, on its banks or oil industry, would be crippling.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said the large missile tests showed, “the dire straits of Iran in light of the tightening sanctions around her, including the considerations in the last few days regarding the sanctions of exporting petroleum as well as the possibility of sanctions against the Iranian Central Bank." While the chances of Iran going through with its threat of closing the Strait of Hormuz are slim, the deployment of thousands of US troops and naval ships to Israel shows the US isn’t taking any chances.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Great. We won't drill for oil in Alaska because we might disturb a few caribou. And we won't allow them to build another pipeline from Canada because... uh, well, just because. But we'll go to war to keep oil flowing through the Gulf of Hormuz.

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[b]BREAKING NEWS: The Pentagon to Send US Troops to Israel. Iran is the Unspoken Target
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While American troops will be stationed in Israel for an unspecified amount of time, Israeli military personnel will be added to EUCOM in Germany. EUCOM stands for United States European Command.

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Well, now it all makes sense!

Prince Barry pulled the U.S. troops out of Iraq (leaving only about 20K contractors), and now they will be in Israel.

What really concerns me though, is the level of control which the Israelis exert over the U.S. military.

I never dreamed I would see the day that Israeli troops are quartered in Germany!


I would gladly lay aside the use of arms and settle matters by negotiation, but unless the whole will, the matter ends, and I take up my battle rifle, and thank God that He has put it within my grasp.

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THE WAR ON IRAN: The Deployment of Thousands of US Troops to Israel, The Integration of US-Israeli Command Structures


Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research
January 5, 2011

The Islamic Republic of Iran has been threatened with military action by the US and its allies for the last eight years.

Iran has been involved in war games in the Persian Gulf. The US Navy is deployed. Iran’s naval exercises which commenced on December 24th were conducted in an area which is patrolled by the US Fifth Fleet, based in Bahrain.

Meanwhile, a new round of economic sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran has been unleashed, largely targeting Iran’s Central Bank, leading to a dramatic plunge of Iran’s currency.

Reacting to US threats, Iran declared that it would consider blocking the shipment of oil through the Strait of Hormuz:

“Roughly 40 percent of the world’s oil tanker shipments transit the strait daily, carrying 15.5 million barrels of Saudi, Iraqi, Iranian, Kuwaiti, Bahraini, Qatari and United Arab Emirates crude oil, leading the United States Energy Information Administration to label the Strait of Hormuz “the world’s most important oil chokepoint.” (John C.K. Daly, War Imminent in Strait of Hormuz? $200 a Barrel Oil?Global Research, January 3, 2012)

The Globalization of War and the Demise of the American Republic

There is a symbiotic relationship between War and the Economic Crisis.

The planning of the Iran war is being carried out at the crossroads of a worldwide economic depression, which is conducive to widening social inequalities, mass unemployment and the impoverishment of large sectors of the world population.

Crushing social movements on the domestic front –including all forms of resistance to America’s military agenda and its neoliberal economic policies– is an integral part of the United States’ hegemonic role Worldwide.

Does Constitutional Government in the eyes of the Obama Administration constitute an encroachment to “The Globalization of War”?

History tells us that an Empire cannot be built on the political foundations of a Republic.

In this regard, it should come as no surprise that the new Iran sanctions regime adopted by the US Congress became law on New Year’s Eve, December 31st, on the same day Obama signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA 2012), which suspends civil liberties and allows for the “Indefinite Detention of Americans”. (See Michel Chossudovsky, The Inauguration of Police State USA 2012. Obama Signs the “National Defense Authorization Act “, Global Research, January 1, 2012)

The Obama administration is intent upon crushing both social dissent as well as antiwar protest. The American Republic is incompatible with America’s “long war”. What is required is the instatement of a “democratic dictatorship”, a de facto military rule in civilian cloths.

Thousands of Troops to Israel

Advanced war preparations are ongoing. Barely mentioned by the Western media, although confirmed by Israeli press reports, the Pentagon is preparing to send several thousand US troops to Israel.

In the context of ongoing war preparations, these troops are slated to participate in joint US-Israeli military maneuvers in Spring 2012, described by the Jerusalem Post as “the largest-ever missile defense exercise in [Israel's] history.” (emphasis added)

Last week [11-18 December], Lt.-Gen. Frank Gorenc, commander of the US’s Third Air Force based in Germany, visited Israel to finalize plans for the upcoming drill, expected to see the deployment of several thousand American soldiers in Israel. (US commander visits Israel to finalize missile… Jerusalem Post December 21, 2011 emphasis added)

These war games involve the testing of Israel’s air defense system, which is now fully integrated into the US global missile detection system, following the installation (December 2008) of a new sophisticated X-band early warning radar system. (See www.defense.gov/news/, December 30, 2011, .See also Sen. Joseph Azzolina, Protecting Israel from Iran’s missiles, Bayshore News, December 26, 2008).

The US global missile detection system includes satellites, Aegis ships in the Mediterranean, Persian Gulf and Red Sea as well as land-based Patriot radars and interceptors. In the context of planning the US-Israel Spring war games:

“The US will also bring its THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) and shipbased Aegis ballistic missile defense systems to Israel to simulate the interception of missile salvos against Israel.

The American systems will work in conjunction with Israel’s missile defense systems – the Arrow, Patriot and Iron Dome.

Gorenc came to Israel for talks with Brig.-Gen. Doron Gavish, commander of the Air Force’s Air Defense Division.

He toured one of the Iron Dome batteries in the South and the Israel Test Bed lab in Holon where the IAF holds its interception simulation exercises.

The IAF is planning to deploy a fourth battery of the Iron Dome counter-rocket system in the coming months and is mulling the possibility of stationing it in Haifa to protect oil refineries located there.

The Defense Ministry has allocated a budget to manufacture an additional three Iron Dome batteries by the end of 2012. IAF operational requirements call for the deployment of about a dozen batteries along Israel’s northern and southern borders.

The IAF is also moving forward with plans to deploy Rafael’s David’s Sling missile defense system, which is designed to defend against medium-range rockets and cruise missiles. Rafael recently completed a series of successful navigation and flight tests of the David’s Sling’s interceptor and plans to hold the first interception test by mid-2012. US commander visits Israel to finalize missile… Jerusalem Post December 21, 2011)

Integrated US-NATO-Israel Command Structures

Pursuant to these joint US-Israel games, there are indications that the US is also planning to increase the number of American troops stationed in Israel.

Moreover, these military exercises planned for next Spring are accompanied by a fundamental shift in US-NATO-Israel command structures.

What is now unfolding at Washington’s behest is an integration of US-Israel military command structures.

Washington is not a reluctant partner, as some observers have suggested, “with the Obama administration attempting to distance itself” from an Israeli sponsored war on Iran. Quite the opposite!

Given the integration of Israel’s air defense system into that of the US, Israel cannot, under any circumstances, wage a war on Iran without the US.Moreover, since mid-2005, following the signing of a protacol between NATO and Tel Aviv, Israel has beocme a de facto member of the Atlantic Alliance.

The Pentagon calls the shots. The planned deployment of US troops in Israel is part and parcel of a US sponsored war.

In the context of the Spring 2012 military drills, the United States military will establish Command Posts in Israel. In turn, Israel’s IDF will establish Command Posts at United States European Command headquarters (EUCOM), in Stuttgart, Germany. (Ibid).

The ultimate objective of these command posts is to establish “joint [US-Israeli] task forces in the event of a large-scale conflict in the Middle East”, (Ibid). In other words, these task forces will be involved in planning the deployment of troops and weapons systems directed against Iran, with Israel playing an important role as a launchpad for military action.

What these developments suggest is that the war on Iran –which has been on the drawing board of the Pentagon since 2003– will involve the direct participation of Israel under a unified US military command.

The people of Israel are the unspoken victims of America’s global military agenda as well their own government’s war plans directed against Iran.

They are led to believe that Iran possesses nuclear weapons when in fact Israel possesses an advanced nuclear arsenal, which is directed against Iran.

The people of Israel as well as Western public opinion, more generally, are also led to believe that Iran’s president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants “to Wipe Israel off the Map”, when in fact this statement was concocted by the Western media, as a means of demonizing the Iranian head of state as well as presenting Iran as a threat to the security of Israel:

“Across the world, a dangerous rumor has spread that could have catastrophic implications. According to legend, Iran’s President has threatened to destroy Israel, or, to quote the misquote, “Israel must be wiped off the map”. Contrary to popular belief, this statement was never made”

(See Arash Norouzi, Israel: “Wiped off The Map”. The Rumor of the Century, Fabricated by the US Media to Justify An All out War on Iran, Global Research, January 20, 2007)

Who wants to “wipe Israel off the Map”? Tehran or Washington? Ahmadinejad or Obama?

In actual fact, the Obama administration as well as the Netanyahu government indelibly constitute a threat to the people of Israel.

Tehran has since 2005 warned that it will retaliate if attacked, in the form of ballistic missile strikes directed against Israel as well as against US military facilities in the Persian Gulf, which would immediately lead us into a scenario of military escalation.

This war would engulf a region extending from the Mediterranean to the heartland of Central Asia. It would have devastating consequences, resulting in a massive loss of life.

It would precipitate humanity into a World War III scenario.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Saudis, Gulf states on war alert for early US-Iran clash


DEBKAfile
January 5, 2011

The armies of Saudi Arabia and fellow Gulf Cooperation Council states stood ready Thursday Jan. 5, for Washington to stand up to Iranian threats and send an aircraft carrier or several warships through the Strait of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf. Riyadh has been leaning hard on the Obama administration not to let Tehran get away with its warning to react with “full force” if the USS Stennis aircraft carrier tried to reenter the Gulf or Iran’s pretensions to control the traffic transiting the world’s most important oil route.

Wednesday night, the Iranian parliament began drafting a bill prohibiting foreign warships from entering the Gulf without Tehran’s permission.

DEBKAfile’s Washington sources report that Saudi Arabia has warned the Obama administration that Iranian leaders mean what they say; their leaders are bent on provoking a military clash with the United States at a time and place of their choosing, rather than leaving the initiative to Washington. To this end, Iranian officials are ratcheting up their belligerence day after day.

Notwithstanding their military inferiority, the Iranians believe they can snatch a measure of success from a military confrontation, just as the Lebanese Hizballah did in the 2006 war against Israel. In any case, they expect any clash to be limited – at least at first. The two sides will begin by feeling for the opposite side’s weaknesses while endeavoring to hold the line against a full-blown war.

America’s failure to rise to Iran’s challenge will confirm its rulers in the conviction that the US is a paper tiger and encourage them to press their advantage for new gains.

The assessment of British military experts Thursday, Jan. 5, was that the question now is: Who will blink first? Will the US follow through on the Pentagon’s assertion that the deployment of US military assets in the Persian Gulf will continue as it has for decades? Or will Iran act on its warnings and block those waters to the entry of American warships?

President Barack Obama can’t afford to cave in to Iran, especially while campaigning for reelection in Nov. 2012; Tehran, for its part, has made too many threats to easily back down.

The entire region is now on tenterhooks for the next move, with US, Iranian and Gulf armies on the highest war alert. American and Iranian war planners both accept that their advantage lies in surprising the enemy – without, however, catapulting the Persian Gulf into a full-dress war.

US Navy publications as of Wednesday, Jan. 4 showed a sign of the times: One ran a series of photos of F-18 Super Hornet fighter-bombers standing on the runways of the USS Stennis aircraft carrier ready for takeoff at any moment. Another depicted for the first time ever row upon row of huge bombs in the carrier’s hold to show the Iranians what they are taking on.

In the view of DEBKAfile’s military sources, the fact that the US has deployed only one large aircraft carrier in the region does not signify any reluctance on Washington’s part to preserve the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf. There is no longer a need to rush more carriers to a flashpoint in these strategic waters. The US maintains five huge air bases in the Gulf region – two, the Ali Al Salem and Ahmed Al Jaber bases, in Kuwait; the Al Dhafra base in the UAE; and the largest air bases outside the US – Al Adid in Qatar and the Thumrait in Oman.

The concentration of aircraft carriers at any given location is no longer treated as the marker of an imminent US military operation.


"The time for war has not yet come, but it will come and that soon, and when it does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Gen. T.J. Jackson, March 1861
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Did you notice that he never said what side these other Arab nations military was on alert to help?

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Well, when this shit does hit the fan, we'll be looking at $5 to $6-a-gallon gas, pronto.
Then, things will get real interesting here in CONUS. Maybe we're gonna get our civil war sooner than we think.

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Oh heck, let me change that......probably $6 to $7 dollar gas.

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US overthrew Iran’s democracy 1953-1979, armed Iraq to invade 1980-1988, now lies for more war


Carl Herman
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January 8, 2012

The focus of this article is to explore the vicious and unlawful history of US intervention in Iran’s government. It’s from my brief: War with Iraq and Afghanistan, rhetoric for war with Iran:

In 1953, the United States CIA led by one of President Theodore Roosevelt’s grandsons, initiated a coup in Iran (Operation Ajax)[8] to remove the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. The Iranian government was understandably dissatisfied with the terms of its contract with the Anglo-Persian Oil Company that allowed British interests to claim 85% of the oil profit from Iran.[9] Iran voted to nationalize the oil industry in 1951 after the British declined to renegotiate the terms. The US-led coup was successful, and the royal monarch, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi,[10] became virtual dictator. Fearing popular reprisal, Pahlavi’s government was supported by the CIA in creating the Iranian SAVAK, a vicious secret police for the Shah’s dictatorial government.[11] We can only assume that the oil revenue sharing agreement with the Shah was acceptable to the US and UK.

Under the Eisenhower administration, the US cooperated with the Shah’s government for the development of Iranian nuclear energy through the “Atoms for Peace” program.[12] President Ford agreed to US full cooperation to help Iran build about two dozen nuclear energy plants. When the Iranian people overthrew the Shah’s government in 1979, the US stopped cooperating. The US backed Iraq in their invasion of Iran in 1980 and throughout the war until 1988, seeking a more US-friendly Iranian government. The US provided Saddam Hussein with the chemical and biological weapons the W. Bush administration later used as justification for invading Iraq.[13] Since 1979, the US has worked to prevent Iran having a nuclear energy program, even under the legal provisions of the NPT, and reneged on a multi-billion dollar contract to deliver nuclear fuel to Iran without refunding Iran’s money.[14]

The previous three paragraphs are plain vanilla history in conservatively-known content. Neither our government’s political leaders from either party or our major media give the US public the context of history to evaluate the Bush/Obama administrations’ statements advocating war with Iran. Their use of the term “nuclear program” is misleading. We could also call it fraud, as it deliberately misinforms.[15] Objectively, the US actions are in violation of NPT and the UN Charter in threatening war.[16] Our mainstream media does not communicate these facts to the public.

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, Seymour Hersh, has reported since 2005 that government insiders have disclosed to him that the CIA is presently engaged in covert operations similar to 1953 to overthrow the Iranian government.[17] Hersh, claiming inside White House sources, reported one idea from Vice President Dick Cheney was for the US Navy to build four or five boats that looked like Iranian Naval PT boats, man and arm them with US Navy Seals, then have the Navy Seals attack a US Navy ship off Iran’s coast. The incident would be filmed and used as propaganda to enflame US public opinion for war with Iran.[18] Hersh is the reporter who insiders trusted to report the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up in the Vietnam War, and the Abu Ghraib Torture Scandal in the current Iraq war. Scott Ritter, US former weapons inspector and officer for US Marine Intelligence calls any covert planning and actions by their correct legal name: Acts of War. Ritter states the obvious: the US would never allow Iran to take these actions without calling them Acts of War.[19]

Recently and disturbingly, was the US Air Force admission that they “mistakenly” transported six live nuclear warheads attached to ready-to-launch cruise missiles to the US military base that is the jump-off for US supplies to Middle East Operations. This could be a veiled threat of nuclear war against Iran rather than explained by the long chain of continuous “mistakes” required for such an event to occur.[20] Nuclear weapons are protected by detailed protocol and lethal force; they go nowhere by mistake and had a 50 year perfect record for their handling.

We properly wonder why the Bush/Obama administrations are using Iran’s “nuclear program” as rhetoric linking Iran with atomic weapons, and the call for US war against Iran. In academic analysis, “why” is a subjective question that cannot be answered in full objective confidence. All we can do is discuss related facts to build broad-scale constructions of circumstances, and then construct hypotheses that match those facts. The hypothesis I invite you to embrace as containing all the facts is that current false propaganda is repetitive of recent history of US unlawful interest to control Iran’s resources.

As I wrote in the context of US war history:

The two “reasons” for war with Iran are as false as the “reasons” for war with Iraq. Beware a false flag attack by the US or Israel to blame on Iran as pretext for another “defensive” war:

Iran’s president never physically threatened Israel.
All of Iran’s nuclear material is fully accounted for peaceful and legal use for energy and medicine.

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endnotes (with common encyclopedic links for additional general backgrounds):

[8] Future of Freedom. Hornberger, J.G. An Anti-democracy Foreign Policy: Iran. Jan. 31, 2005:http://www.fff.org/comment/com0501i.asp , Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax .

[9] Democracy Now: http://www.democracynow.org/2003/8/25/50_years_after_the_cias_first , Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Iranian_Oil_Company .

[10] New York Times. Risen, J. April 16, 2000. The CIA in Iran:http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html , Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi .

[11] Federation of American Scientists. Pike J. Ministry of Security: SAVAK. Jan. 16, 2000:http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iran/savak/index.html ,Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK.

[12] World Nuclear University. President Eisenhower’s speech to the UN General Assembly. Dec. 8, 1953: http://world-nuclear-university.org/html/atoms_for_peace/ , Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran .

[13] Iran Chamber Society. King, J. Arming Iraq: A Chronology of US Involvement. March, 2003:http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php , Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_iraq_war .

[14] Antiwar. Prather, G. ElBaradei Isn’t Perfect. Dec. 27, 2005: http://www.antiwar.com/prather/?articleid=8308 , and background: Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran#After_the_1979_Revolution .

[15] Legal Dictionary: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud , Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud .

[16] Foley, B. “Limiting War by Process: Congress, the UN and Iran. Jurist Legal News and Research. May 25, 2006. http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2006/05/limiting-war-by-process-congress-un.php .

[17] Hersh, S. Preparing the Battlefield: The Bush Administration Steps up its Secret Moves Against Iran. July 7, 2008: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh and interviews on Preparing the Battlefield: http://www.911blogger.com/node/16388 ,http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=1812 .

[18] Prison Planet. Watson, S. Media blackout on Cheney Iran false flag story. Aug. 2, 2008:http://www.prisonplanet.com/media-blackout-on-cheney-iran-false-flag-story.html .

[19] Truthdig.com. Ritter, S. Acts of war. July 29, 2008:http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080729_acts_of_war/ .

[20] Analyses: Project Camelot. Carter, J. What Really Happened at Minot AFB. :http://www.projectcamelot.org/jack_carter.html , Information Liberation. Lindorff, D. The Air Force Report on the Minot-Barksdale Nuclear Missile Flight. Nov. 2, 2007:http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=24191 , and Rense. Twietmeyer, T. Missteps in the Bunker: Damage Control? Sept. 25, 2007: http://www.rense.com/general78/dmge.htm ..


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American, British, Israeli and Iranian Warships Sailing Towards Confrontation

Posted on January 7, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog

Tensions Between U.S., Israeli, British and Iranian Warships

The U.S. and Israel are conducting their largest-ever joint warfare exercises near Iran. And see this.

England is sending its most advanced ship – the HMS Daring – to the region.

Only days after finishing its last wargames in the Strait of Hormuz, Iran has announced another set of wargames in February.

What Could Go Wrong?

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Would someone please tell me of ANY period where someone has not been shooting at someone else in that region's waters at any point in the last 75 years?


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Third Aircraft Carrier Group Coming To Iran


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January 30, 2012

For months now we have been following US naval developments and deployments in the Arabian Sea, which serve one purpose and one purpose only – to demonstrate US military strength in the Straits of Hormuz region and to keep Iranian ‘offensive passions’ subdued. Yet never has the US had a total of three aircraft carrier groups in the vicinity, always topping out at 2 in the Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet, most recently these being the CVN-70 Vinson and CVN 72 Lincoln, with a third boat present merely until a rotation in or out of the theater of operations was complete. That is about to change, and with it the prevailing price of Brent, which we are confident is about to take a new step wise price higher as the US makes it all too clear what the endgame is, because as Naval Today reports, the “US navy to deploy third carrier group to Persian Gulf”, probably the CVN-77 George H.W. Bush which departed Norfolk two weeks ago according to the most recent naval update, or any other Norfolk-stationed aircraft carrier: there is a wide selection to chose from.

From Naval Today:

US Navy to Deploy Third Carrier Group to Persian Gulf

Third Aircraft Carrier Group Coming To Iran US Navy to Deploy Third Carrier Group to Persian Gulf

The carrier group based in Norfolk, VA will also include a guided missile cruiser and three guided missile destroyers, reports Interfax.

USS Abraham Lincoln had already entered the Persian Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz on Jan 22. She is escorted by a guided missile cruiser and two destroyers (USN), one British and one French warships.

Meanwhile, another US Navy’s carrier strike carrier group headed by USS Carl Vinson is stationed eastward the Strait of Hormuz, in northern part of the Arabian Sea washing southwest coast of Iran.



At present, the US has 15,000-men force deployed in Kuwait, expeditionary marine battalion, and amphibious landing group.
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A World On The Verge Of War?



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Here is a summary of where the world stands: -

- Unable to reach a compromise over the weekend, South Africa is now in an all out labor strike, with the police again firing rubber bullets at miners with lethal escalation guaranteed

- Back from vacation, the once again penniless citizens of Spain, Greece, and Portugal have resumed protesting austerity

- US embassies attacked, in many cases with numerous casualties, in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Sudan, Lebanon, India, Balgadesh, Indonesia, and others.

- Japan “appropriating” China-contested islands provoking a firestorm of retaliation including demands for “war with Japan”

- The Japanese ambassador to China dying mysteriously

- Netanyahu telling Meet the Press Iran will have a nuke in six-seven months and must be stopped beforehand

- Warships from more than 25 countries, including the United States, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, launching a military exercise in the Straits of Hormuz

- A third US aircraft – the CVN-74 Stennis – carrier is en route to Iran with an ETA of about 10 days

- And finally, a potential catalyst to light this whole mess on fire, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard announcing that its troops are now on the ground in Syria.

From Reuters:

Members of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) are providing non-military assistance in Syria and Iran may get involved militarily if its closest ally comes under attack, commander-in-chief Mohammad Ali Jafari said on Sunday.

Jafari’s statement is the first official acknowledgement that Iran has a military presence on the ground in Syria where an 18-month-old uprising has left tens of thousands dead.

Western countries and Syrian opposition groups have long suspected Iran has troops in Syria. Iran has denied this.

“A number of members of the Qods force are present in Syria but this does not constitute a military presence,” Iranian news agency ISNA quoted Jafari as saying at a news conference.

Qods is an IRGC unit set up to export Iran’s ideology. It has been accused of plotting attacks inside Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

Jafari did not indicate how many IRGC members were in Syria but said they were providing “intellectual and advisory help”.

The Islamic Republic has backed Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad since the crisis began and regards his rule as a key part of its axis of resistance against Israel and Sunni Arab states.

Jafari also said Iran would change its policy and offer military backing if Syria came under attack.

“I say specifically that if Syria came under military attack, Iran would also give military support but it … totally depends on the circumstances,” he said.

Next up: satellite photos somewhere “confirming” beyond a reasonable doubt that weapons of mass destruction are being prepared for usage, and a preemptive war is the only way to not only preserve peace, but to be awarded the Nobel prize in said activity.

What is perfectly obvious to anyone but the most jaded and biased, is that the West will use any opportunity of conflict escalation which in turn will send crude, and gas, prices soaring, to commence the launch of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve release, arguably at just the right time to push down gas prices, which as we showed on Friday have never been higher on this day in history. “Right time”, because any SPR release will have the short-term benefit of boosting Obama’s re-election chances even more, even if it means surging gas prices after the election.

The reality of course is that the bulk of upside pressure on commodity (crude and gas included) prices is as a result of the Fed and ECB’s recent monetization expansion and liquidity tsunami, which does the usual: soothes the symptoms for a few weeks, crushes volatility and creates the impression that all is well…. if only to lead to yet another far more grave outcome. And since there is now officially no limit much debt the Fed will monetize, there is so no limit on how high commodity prices will go.

So while in reality any war, supposedly one which is “regional” and “contained” will merely be a smokescreen to the central banks officially taking over ownership of the insolvent developed world, the likelihood is that a war will neither be “regional” nor “contained” as both countries that make up the axis of a future hard-backed currency, China and Russia, have already made it quite clear that any intervention by the US in regions they themselves consider strategic, such as the Senkaku Islands, Syria and/or Iran, will result in retaliation.

And retaliation by one or more rising superpowers to another fading superpower, will inevitably lead to yet another World War.

Needless to say, nobody could possibly foresee war as the outcome to the global depression ver 2.0: certainly not the Princeton historian who will be, more than anyone else, responsible for it.


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Let's see....
- Israel goes to war with Iran.
- Russia goes to war with Israel, occupies Syria.
- Egypt shuts down Suez Canal.
- Iran shuts down Strait of Hormuz.
- America gets kicked out of every Central Asian and Middle Eastern nation except Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
- UN does nothing.
- China and goes to war with Japan.
- North Korea jumps in to help China.
- South Korea goes to war with North Korea.
- America comes to the aid of Japan and South Korea.
- UN still does nothing.
- Venezuela stops exporting oil to America and America-friendly nations.
- Jordanian, Saudi, UAE, and Kuwaiti governments are overthrown by radical Islamo-facists. All westerners and non-Muslims stranded are sodomized, then beheaded on television.
- China annihilates Tibetan population. Completely resettles the area with Han Chinese.
- China goes to war with India.
- Pakistan goes to war with India.
- China devastates America's Pacific fleet.
- China captures Taiwan, slaughters majority of population, than brings in Han Chinese settlers to re-populate the island.
- China starts an island-hopping campaign, taking many of the same islands that Japan took in WWII.
- UN continues to do nothing.
- Governments of Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, and El Salvador are overthrown by drug cartels. Period of total lawlessness begins in central America.
- Millions of Central American refugees begin jumping theUS/Mexico border, further straining USA's economic stability.
- Drug cartels take over border check points, massacring hundreds of US Border Patrol agents.
- Border war begins in America. Border towns become war zones. Border Patrol, National Guard, local law enforcement, and Militia units fight the drug cartels. Militia units are the most effective due to a lack of PC and red tape.
- Federal government declares Militia units "out of control" and "even more dangerous" than the drug cartels.
- UN sends South American troops led by Venezuelans to "pacify" the American southwest.
- China takes over Hawaiian Islands.
- UN sends Bangladeshi troops to help China "pacify" Hawaii.
- Russia takes over Alaska.
- UN sends Canadian troops to help Russia "pacify" Alaska. Rebellious Militiamen and Inuits are targeted.
- Alaska-Russia oil pipeline built in record time.


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Obama loses reelection, Romney now President orders a full Nuke Strike against China for attacking the Pacific Fleet and occupying Hawaii.

Romney gives Russia an ultimatum pull out of Alaska or get Nuked.

Or Militia in Montana and other Western States where some of our Nukes are Deployed, take control of the Nukes making these States the Newest Nuclear Super Power.

The Nuclear Armed Militia order the Russians to leave Alaska or else.

Militia attack without mercy the South American UN Troops and torture every captured Blue Helmet to death.

Militia from the Northern States invade Canada in response to Canadian UN Troops fighting against the Alaskan Militia.

Freedom Loving Canadians from the Western Provinces join with American Militia and declare independence from the rest of Canada.

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Keep your shit loaded. This is some crazy bullshit going on right now.

It's like they want the collapse to occur.


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Keep your shit loaded. This is some crazy bullshit going on right now.

It's like they want the collapse to occur.
If they wanted the collapse to occur, things are tenuous enough now they could collapse it all at any time.

They are sure trying to start something though. I'm not sure what the motivation and short term goals are. The longterm goal is clear.

I'm pretty convinced that Zero knew about the embassies before that happened. Hiterly, not so much. She was totally taken by surprise.

There is sure a lot going on right now.

So much, that we should be cautious they are not using it all as some sort of diversion to carry out their real goals here in the United States.

In the event of war in the ME, I think you can kiss a lot more of our freedom goodbye. Not only that but it would be almost impossible to stop it and any expectation of popular support for any rebellion would evaporate rapidly.

I can't help but think that Zero is somehow involved in this muzzie sisterhood uprising and that our ships in the Persian Gulf are there to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran.

Apparently it is not enough that good is bad and bad is good, that everything is upside down, now we are doing a 180 on this nation's historical foreign policy interests.

We're being destroyed from within and the sheeple can't even be bothered to pay attn.



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U.S. officials: Securing Syria's chemical weapons could take thousands of troops


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The United States and its allies are discussing a worst-case scenario that could require tens of thousands of ground troops to go into Syria to secure chemical and biological weapons sites following the fall of President Bashar Assad's government, according to U.S. and diplomatic officials.

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Wasn't that kinda along the line of what bush was pushing, when the us went to iraq. Weapons of mass desruction only to find out. opps they no hear,if they were they would be found to be given to iraq by the us.
Like the old saying goes all wars are started by a false flag act.


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What I'm curious about is if/when the US gov will unleash their true power...

What I mean are the end products of decades of research with trillions of dollars invested. In other words those crazy stories about US controlled "flying saucers" or rather triangles if the source material is anywhere near right. Too much video, too many anecdotes for there NOT to be some kind of superweaponry.

OR if that's misinformation, even something more mundane like a small force of X-37 unmanned mini-shuttles; one was in orbit for over a year. It would be well within our capabilities to load such a craft with guided kinetic "rods" that are rocket propelled. Coming in at 20-40 thousand MPH they'd produce on impact the energy of a nuclear warhead. Even that level of hidden technology makes carrier fleets and mass formations of armor as obsolete as the Greek Phalanx versus a machine gun.

Perhaps THAT is why the for-public-consumption nuclear triad has been so unilaterally whittled down, why the Cold War military has been expended in the ME in America's version of the Great Game trying to master Central Asia and thereby Eurasia and the rest of the planet.

Knowing what their cards truly are will help shape our responses better. Of course a lot of what remains and all the automatons and surveillance tech that's being fielded is deployed against us along with about ten Brigade Combat Teams.

Foreign troops? There's more than enough donut eating cops that gladly bash women repeatedly onto the concrete already, I'm pretty sure the enemy has some reason to be confident about the loyalty of their forces and dupes.


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The US military is spread pretty thin as it is. I just don't see how we can handle all of this.


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The US military is spread pretty thin as it is. I just don't see how we can handle all of this.
Agreed. Because of this I think we'll be knocked out of the war early on, then sit the rest of it out, with our military only engaging in defensive operations here in CONUS.

If we're smart we'll declare neutrality early on, like Switzerland in WWII. But then again, "our" government hasn't been making the best of decisions lately, and I see no reason why they would suddenly alter that trend.

Of course, there will be more than enough US-based mercenary outfits operating overseas. With all these Americans actively fighting in WWIII, it will be difficult to maintain our neutrality. I imagine Israel, India, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, and Japan will be hiring American mercs like crazy.


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It could definitly be interesting if all of this were to kick off. Here in the states with all of the different militia/survival/prepardness groups that is an x factor.Namly because this is our country.
Hopfuly there are stills some good comanders in the military that have common sence to do the right thing. Fall back and regroup.


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What the United States will do depends on who is President, but one thing that needs to be taken into consideration is the fact that we have a lot of extremely large sticks and as long as we have those sticks there is not much that Countries like China can do unless they are willing to take the chance that we will use our Big Sticks and smash their F**cking heads into pulp. And this goes even more for Two Bit Countries like Iran.

Now as to Russia that is a big problem, and what they would do all depends on their leader's mental stability if they are willing to use their Big Sticks against the United States, knowing that we would then use ours against them.


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Re: WWW III #152981
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Former State Dept. Veteran Drops Bombshell: WWIII Starts Sept. 25

Read more: http://www2.thestockmarketwatch.com...wwiii-starts-sept-25/34348#ixzz2735zGtfb

Speaking with Infowars’ Alex Jones, former Assistant Deputy Secretary of State Dr. Steve Pieczenik says Israel plans to attack Iran before the U.S. elections of Nov. 6., and, that an attack on Iran will assuredly kickoff WWIII, according to him.

Moreover, Pieczenik, a man whose career inspired the character Jack Ryan of the Tom Clancy book series, says the ‘October Surprise’ will not take place in October. Instead, the big surprise will come earlier, in late September.

Dr. Pieczenik says the specific date of the strike on Iran is Sept. 25th or 26th, Yom Kippur—the Jewish holiday, which commences in the year 2012 at sundown on the 25th, and ends at nightfall, the following day.

“It [an Israeli attack on Iran] could be earlier than October, because we have Yom Kippur. And I predicted on your radio show, and I predicted to our national security people, privately, that Benjamin Bibi Netanyahu would start something on Rosh Hashanah,” says Pieczenick.

“This [prediction] was over a year ago, and I said it on your radio show. He was as predictable as a clock, and the Israelis will be very predictable, on Yom Kippur,” he adds.

Pieczenik says it’s clear to him that Israeli prime minister Bibi Netanyahu has already planned to attack Iran and has been desperately trying to enlist the U.S. to back him up. But, with or without U.S. direct help, Pieczenik is certain that Israel will attack Iran.

Moreover, he says Netanyahu is an extremest, who will “lie” for his personal and selfish cause, a conclusion also drawn by many Israelis who protest his regime.

“Everything Bibi is saying to the Americans and the American Jews is an absolute, unmitigated lie,” Pieczenik, a Jew, himself, says forcefully,

“What we have here is a collusion between Saudi Arabia, neocon Jews of America and Israel, against a president, who, whether I like or dislike, and may have lied about Osama Bin Laden,” he adds, “he [President Obama] is the son . . . a son of a CIA operative, the grandson of a CIA operative, who understands very well what the issues of intelligence are.”

With help from his neocon friends, Netanyahu threatens the entire world with the suicidal notion that Iran must be attacked, and the Israeli prime minister must be stopped, even if it means assassination, according to Pieczenik

“In a couple of weeks, they [Israel, Saudi and neocons] will try to initiate another war, unless their ex-Mossad operatives and their ex-Shin Bet will take out Netanyahu, and do to Netanyahu what happened to Rabin,” exclaims Pieczenik. “They know what I’m talking about. Otherwise he will bring down Israel, the world, and there will be a third world war.”

He also says, “What we are, is [sic] at the brink of war, that is being precipitated by two major countries. That is, Israel, particularly Bibi Netanyahu, who knows his country is failing economically, socially, politically.” And the other country is “Saudi Arabia.”

Pieczenik says the Israelis, Saudis and neocons were behind the 9-11 attacks, an accusation also made some years ago by many researchers of the incident. Once considered a crazy idea forwarded by some ‘conspiracy theorists’, who seek to see a conspiracy in every major world event, the conspiracy theorists have been mostly vilified, though no reinvestigation of the 9-11 incident has been seriously proposed by any member of Congress.

Today, the ‘conspiracy theory’, or ‘inside job’ theory, appears to be much, much closer to ‘fact’ than the account of that day was published through the official Congressional report of 9-11, giving rise to a strong possibility of a Mossad, Saudi and neocon conspiracy to carryout a false-flag attack on the United States and blame the crime on Osama bin Laden, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Given evidence of Mossad’s checkered past and involvement with the attack of the USS Liberty on Jun. 8, 1967, killing 34 American soldiers, Pieczenik comments won’t be received as a big surprise to many Americans.

I want Netanyahu to “begin telling the truth, that the involvement of Israel was, in 9-11” says Pieczenik. “Over 134 Mossad operatives were picked up on 9-11. The FBI picked them up [and] debriefed them. They were clearly involved with the Pakistani ISI and Saudi Arabian intelligence” on 9-11.

And, as far as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Steven: he was murdered by the Israeli, Saudi Arabia and Zionist neocons cabal, according to Pieczenik.

“The killing of the ambassador is to precipitate war, so that Israel can finally get into Iran and try to destroy Iran,” he says. “It will be the beginning of the end of Israel. It’s Armageddon for Israel,” if it attacks Iran.

“The Pentagon source informed me the distance between the Libyan embassy, where the ambassador was, and where the rioters were, was so large, and two days of delay in response . . ., simply that they [the killers of Stevens and three other embassy employees] were professionals ready to take out our ambassador,” he adds, and with the “approval from Saudi Arabia.”

Adding to Saudi Arabia’s involvement of the two-plane demolition job in NY City, the crash of another alleged plane into the Pentagon, and the alleged downing of another plane into the woodlands of Pennsylvania, he says, “Saudi Arabia and Israel are twins. . . . There’s no way you can separate Israel from Saudi Arabia, or Saudi Arabia from Israel. They go back all the way to 9-11.”

Then the subject of the killing of alleged mastermind of 9-11, Osama bin Laden. According to Pieczenik, the account of Navy Seal Admiral William McRaven and President Obama regarding bin Laden’s death in Pakistan is another unmitigated “lie.”

“Then we get to the issue of Osama Bin Laden, which Obama said incorrectly and lied to the public that Osama Bin Laden was killed by Seal Team 6,” states Pieczenik. “Admiral McRaven had lied, repeatedly—unfortunately, a decent admiral, but for whatever reason he repeatedly insisted on saying Seal Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden.”

Pieczenik says Bin Laden had already been dead, and McRaven had known that.

And the names that came out of 9-11 unofficial investigation are, what Pieczenik calls, the “neocon chicken hawks” of “Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams and Michael Chertoff.”

He adds, “Chernoff, the Chernoff Group, which is nothing more than a cover for the CIA and FBI, run by Charles Allen, a former CIA operative.”

Moreover, U.S. intelligence was behind the uprising in Libya, the assassination of Libyan president Muammar al-Gaddafi, and the murder of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, according to Pieczenik.

“Why this particular ambassador,” Pieczenik asks, rhetorically. “I think it’s very important for your audience to understand . . . Stevens was an ‘Arabist’. . . ”

He goes on to explain to the Infowars listeners that so-called Arabists are experts of Arabic culture, language and Arab history. But, these State Dept. professionals also could pose a threat to Israel’s ongoing propaganda war in a long-standing effort to elicit sympathy for the Jewish state.

Israel is no friend of America, according to Pieczenik.

He says, “From a geopolitical point of view, Israel is a strategic liability and has been a strategic liability for over 20 years. Since 1968, we have had no for Israel other than the fact it covered us under the Soviet Union on the eastern, southern and northern flank.”

Read more: http://www2.thestockmarketwatch.com...wwiii-starts-sept-25/34348#ixzz2735zGtfb


I would gladly lay aside the use of arms and settle matters by negotiation, but unless the whole will, the matter ends, and I take up my battle rifle, and thank God that He has put it within my grasp.

Audit Fort Knox!
Re: WWW III #152982
09/28/2012 07:34 PM
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Dr. Pieczenik says the specific date of the strike on Iran is Sept. 25th or 26th, Yom Kippur—the Jewish holiday, which commences in the year 2012 at sundown on the 25th, and ends at nightfall, the following day.
It is now the 29th and no strike on Iran.

Another expert who is incorrect.

Just like being blindfolded and shooting at a target if you fire enough rounds you will eventually hit the target dead center, and as I see it all these people who say they know in reality don't know crap.

The only one who knows is Yahwah and he is not talking at least not to us or anyone we know.

Now I will wait to find out what will happen with the election.

I have a feeling that if Obama loses we will be in some very deep crap and there may be a Race War as some of Obama's retarded supporters start killing white people and when us white people fight back it will end up with a race war and then a State of Emergency and then Obama will suspend the results of the Election so he can stay in power and that will be the start of the Second Civil War or at least a lot of states will Secede.


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Re: WWW III #152983
09/29/2012 12:17 AM
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Perhaps what we are looking at is pre-election, support the team, Fear Porn (Propaganda).
Keep the sheeple running in circles so they won't notice what we are doing.
They extended the tab out to 2013 so the checks won't stop before the elections. They did not however raise the debt ceiling.

Re: WWW III #152984
09/29/2012 08:54 PM
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More full of shit end of the world predictions.

You are either a survivalist or you aren't. If you have your shit together then it really does not matter a whole lot, since being prepped is being prepped, then you can go on with your lifestyle.


Life liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten them.

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Re: WWW III #152985
09/30/2012 06:06 PM
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More full of shit end of the world predictions.

You are either a survivalist or you aren't. If you have your shit together then it really does not matter a whole lot, since being prepped is being prepped, then you can go on with your lifestyle.
I am pleased that the war did not start, and I tend toward seeing these "predictions" as inter-dictions.

After all, we have been at war for many years now, and thankfully, we still have the ability to peacefully express our opinions, and render "predictions," or warnings, as the case may be.

Since I claim to be a Believer in the Way, I will continue actively pursuing peaceful solutions.


I would gladly lay aside the use of arms and settle matters by negotiation, but unless the whole will, the matter ends, and I take up my battle rifle, and thank God that He has put it within my grasp.

Audit Fort Knox!
Re: WWW III #152986
09/30/2012 10:09 PM
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Personally, I am into getting involved as little as possible in foreign policy at this point. Some relatives of mine got ripped off badly when trying to do business with our "allies" in Pakistan and in reality should have been warned not to do business there instead of being encouraged to "invest in the alliance". Yeah, I would personally like to kick the shit out of whoever it was at the state department who facilitated the looting of my inheritance, but more than that, the E-Jihad got personal.

I realize that it is perhaps a minority opinion here, but the hatred that the Islamics practice toward Europeans in general and Christians in particular is well documented, that's without even getting into the issues of piracy against Americans going way back to the 1700s.

Nobody in my side of anything has any intention of acting as a "fifth column" on behalf of any Jihad on behalf of a foreign power, but that does not mean we are going to go the Hollingsworth posse route of denouncing every group out there to the feds if they don't conform to Pentagon propaganda policy standards.


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Re: WWW III #152987
10/01/2012 06:22 AM
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Meanwhile, the beast advances...

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-enemy-of-american-people-nuremberg.html

http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/whole-foods-accused-of-fraud-about-gmos.html

http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/hack-electronic-voting-machine-for-only.html

http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/pentagon-seeks-new-generation-of-more.html

http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/ecofascists-kidnap-anti-agenda-21.html

http://www.franklincountyvapatriots.com/2012/09/27/elite-to-save-the-world-even-if-it-kills-us/

http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/09/economic-blues-going-black.html

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/09/27/the_entebbe_option?page=0,1

That's just the top page of news items off Freedom Guide.

It is government policy to wage economic, social, political and cultural war against the American People-divide, impoverish and dumb us down. Sooner or later the end game's going to be here and if they have their way that end will be We the American People-the last obstacle to the enemy attaining complete victory.

So yeah, distract us with external threats, the threat of internal threats, fifth columns, and never-ending predictions of THE END! Distract us as more cameras go up, more powers are codified, more ammo is scooped up, another false flag op is readied for launch, and... and they've BEEN ready for the balloon to go up on open fighting in America. Which they want because then they can go all out and openly shoot at We the American People.

Now, you could try to comply but if you ever bought a gun with any kind of purchase record or registry w/ that ffl form, or you so much as got a NRA membership or browsed at Fox News then you're one of those Patriots that needs to at least go into a re-education camp.

The millions of impoverished who were never offered another choice, don't know better than be welfare leeches, hood rats, trailer trash working the system? Maybe a job in the gov, maybe a work camp.

The soon to be extinct middle class will be crushed. That's the plan and likely there's a fema camp for those that manage to make it there and not be starved or killed or maybe even eaten because independently controlled agriculture has most certainly been a target.

If WWIII is kicked off-and it's orchestrated-the priority will be to work in the destruction of the United States of America. Our America. Now, the enemy, the US Government has been digging bunkers and stockpiling them and God knows what else for decades so come what may they'll arise and rebuild... on their terms.

Islam, La Raza, all the ails of urban blacks-all that is part of dissolving and destroying Our America. That and the pussification of Mainstream America. I doubt most gun owners would fight a flash mob or some Mexican gangstas or a van full of fundamentalist muslims coming their way because they're afraid the state will not respond kindly to their presumption of self defense.

They need to be worried. Remember those roided up cops slamming granny and arresting her on camera for her revolver during Katrina? Not by accident. A message was deliberately sent and come The Day I think more than a few of the new generation of preppers are going to surprise themselves by how quickly they turn in their 3000 ARs with so much crap on them that look like scale models of the International Space Station. Surprised how quick they turn those overpriced carbines in because they didn't take the time to militia up, train in team tactics and most of all BREAK THE MENTAL CONDITIONING OF BEING LAW-ABIDING U.S. CITIZENS.

The beast is the enemy. Period. No amount of politicking or prepping will save us. Our only hope for survival is revolution.


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