Knock Knock. Who’s There? Bilderberg. Bilderberg Who?


Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
June 1, 2012


Detractors routinely contend that the annual elite Bilderberg meetings are nothing more than an outdated irrelevant get together of aging has-beens whose power on the international stage has long since withered.

Take one look at the attendees at this year’s confab in Chantilly, however, and it immediately becomes clear that this is the absolute polar opposite of the truth.

Debating policy at this year’s meeting will be Eric Schmidt, Executive Chairman of Google, Craig J. Mundie, Chief Research and Strategy Officer at Microsoft Corporation, and Reid Hoffman, Co-founder and Executive Chairman of LinkedIn. Another notable attendee is Peter Thiel, head of Clarium Capital, who provided the financial muscle for online ventures like Facebook and Paypal, as well as LinkedIn and Friendster.

There you have luminaries involved with some of the biggest online and social media companies on the globe, all in attendance together at a secret weekend getaway.

That alone should be enough to focus the attention of the mainstream media.

Alas, apparently, no, that is not enough to perk their collective interest, because Bieber walked into a door.

OK then, let’s factor in that also in attendance are the Vice President of the European Commission, the Director General of the World Trade Organization, the President of The World Bank, and the Vice Chairman of the World Economic Forum.

No. still not doing it for the world’s media. Bieber’s got a concussion.

OK, how about the White House National Security Advisor, the Commander of USCYBERCOM and the Director of the National Security Agency?

Perhaps representatives from every major US think tank? You like to have them on your news output every single day right mainstream media? You know, the guys from the Hudson Institute, the Brookings Institution, the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, the Council on Foreign Relations, the American Enterprise Institute, the Hoover Institution – all at Bilderberg.

Turn on the TV and there is 24 hour news coverage of the ongoing economic crisis. Imagine if senior representatives from every major bank in the world were meeting in the same place along with the heads of finance from several major countries in the Western world. Oh wait, they are, at Bilderberg.

Bilderberg has senior figures from the National Bank of Canada, the Spanish Caixabank, the Deutsche Bank of Germany, the Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG and the UniCredit Bank of Austria, and the Banco Internacional do Funchal of Brazil.

They have the Chairman of Barclays bank, the Chairman of HSBC, the Chairman of Goldman Sachs, the CEO of TD Bank Financial Group, and the Vice Chairman of Citigroup.

Deep breath…

They have the Irish Minister of Finance, the Polish Minister of Finance, the Finnish Minister of Finance, The Turkish Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs, a former US Secretary of the Treasury, four of the world’s most distinguished economics professors, and top economics journalists from the Financial Times, The Economist and The Wall Street Journal.

Throw in a smattering of royalty from the Netherlands and Belgium, and a few high ranking politicians and heads of state from Austria, China, Great Britain, Ireland, Russia, Italy, Canada, Spain, and Germany, the Head of Foreign Affairs on the Syrian National Council. Add two former US presidential candidates, a governor and a Senator and you’re still only really scratching the surface of the who’s who of Bilderberg attendees.

It is clearly asinine to suggest that this group of people hold no power and do not have any sway on the international stage. Their influence is irrefutable. Anyone who makes this argument and then tells you you are delusional is beyond stupid.

Where are you mainstream media? Why are you ignoring this and choosing instead to report on the mindless activities of Justin Beiber?


Bilderberg Meetings
Chantilly, Virginia, USA, 31 May-3 June 2012

Final List of Participants

Chairman
FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman and CEO, AXA Group



DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank AG
GBR Agius, Marcus Chairman, Barclays plc
USA Ajami, Fouad Senior Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University
USA Alexander, Keith B. Commander, US Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency
INT Almunia, Joaquín Vice-President - Commissioner for Competition, European Commission
USA Altman, Roger C. Chairman, Evercore Partners
PRT Amado, Luís Chairman, Banco Internacional do Funchal (BANIF)
NOR Andresen, Johan H. Owner and CEO, FERD
FIN Apunen, Matti Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
TUR Babacan, Ali Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs
PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto President and CEO, Impresa; Former Prime Minister
FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
FRA Béchu, Christophe Senator, and Chairman, General Council of Maine-et-Loire
BEL Belgium, H.R.H. Prince Philippe of
TUR Berberoğlu, Enis Editor-in-Chief, Hürriyet Newspaper
ITA Bernabè, Franco Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia
GBR Boles, Nick Member of Parliament
SWE Bonnier, Jonas President and CEO, Bonnier AB
NOR Brandtzæg, Svein Richard President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt
SWE Carlsson, Gunilla Minister for International Development Cooperation
CAN Carney, Mark J. Governor, Bank of Canada
ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis CEO, PRISA; Chairman, El País
AUT Cernko, Willibald CEO, UniCredit Bank Austria AG
FRA Chalendar, Pierre André de Chairman and CEO, Saint-Gobain
DNK Christiansen, Jeppe CEO, Maj Invest
RUS Chubais, Anatoly B. CEO, OJSC RUSNANO
CAN Clark, W. Edmund Group President and CEO, TD Bank Group
GBR Clarke, Kenneth Member of Parliament, Lord Chancellor and Secretary of Justice
USA Collins, Timothy C. CEO and Senior Managing Director, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC
ITA Conti, Fulvio CEO and General Manager, Enel S.p.A.
USA Daniels, Jr., Mitchell E. Governor of Indiana
USA DeMuth, Christopher Distinguished Fellow, Hudson Institute
USA Donilon, Thomas E. National Security Advisor, The White House
GBR Dudley, Robert Group Chief Executive, BP plc
ITA Elkann, John Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, Airbus
USA Evans, J. Michael Vice Chairman, Global Head of Growth Markets, Goldman Sachs & Co.
AUT Faymann, Werner Federal Chancellor
DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
USA Ferguson, Niall Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University
GBR Flint, Douglas J. Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc
CHN Fu, Ying Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs
IRL Gallagher, Paul Former Attorney General; Senior Counsel
USA Gephardt, Richard A. President and CEO, Gephardt Group
GRC Giannitsis, Anastasios Former Minister of Interior; Professor of Development and International Economics, University of Athens
USA Goolsbee, Austan D. Professor of Economics, University of Chicago Booth School of Business
USA Graham, Donald E. Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company
ITA Gruber, Lilli Journalist - Anchorwoman, La 7 TV
INT Gucht, Karel de Commissioner for Trade, European Commission
NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
USA Harris, Britt CIO, Teacher Retirement System of Texas
USA Hoffman, Reid Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
CHN Huang, Yiping Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University
USA Huntsman, Jr., Jon M. Chairman, Huntsman Cancer Foundation
DEU Ischinger, Wolfgang Chairman, Munich Security Conference; Global Head Government Relations, Allianz SE
RUS Ivanov, Igor S. Associate member, Russian Academy of Science; President, Russian International Affairs Council
FRA Izraelewicz, Erik CEO, Le Monde
USA Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard
USA Johnson, James A. Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC
USA Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. Senior Managing Director, Lazard
USA Karp, Alexander CEO, Palantir Technologies
USA Karsner, Alexander Executive Chairman, Manifest Energy, Inc
FRA Karvar, Anousheh Inspector, Inter-ministerial Audit and Evaluation Office for Social, Health, Employment and Labor Policies
RUS Kasparov, Garry Chairman, United Civil Front (of Russia)
GBR Kerr, John Independent Member, House of Lords
USA Kerry, John Senator for Massachusetts
TUR Keyman, E. Fuat Director, Istanbul Policy Center and Professor of International Relations, Sabanci University
USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
TUR Koç, Mustafa Chairman, Koç Holding A.Ş.
DEU Koch, Roland CEO, Bilfinger Berger SE
INT Kodmani, Bassma Member of the Executive Bureau and Head of Foreign Affairs, Syrian National Council
USA Kravis, Henry R. Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute
INT Kroes, Neelie Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda
USA Krupp, Fred President, Environmental Defense Fund
INT Lamy, Pascal Director-General, World Trade Organization
ITA Letta, Enrico Deputy Leader, Democratic Party (PD)
ISR Levite, Ariel E. Nonresident Senior Associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
USA Li, Cheng Director of Research and Senior Fellow, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution
USA Lipsky, John Distinguished Visiting Scholar, Johns Hopkins University
USA Liveris, Andrew N. President, Chairman and CEO, The Dow Chemical Company
DEU Löscher, Peter President and CEO, Siemens AG
USA Lynn, William J. Chairman and CEO, DRS Technologies, Inc.
GBR Mandelson, Peter Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel
USA Mathews, Jessica T. President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
DEN Mchangama, Jacob Director of Legal Affairs, Center for Political Studies (CEPOS)
CAN McKenna, Frank Deputy Chair, TD Bank Group
USA Mehlman, Kenneth B. Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
FRA Montbrial, Thierry de President, French Institute for International Relations
PRT Moreira da Silva, Jorge First Vice-President, Partido Social Democrata (PSD)
USA Mundie, Craig J. Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation
DEU Nass, Matthias Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit
NLD Netherlands, H.M. the Queen of the
ESP Nin Génova, Juan María Deputy Chairman and CEO, Caixabank
IRL Noonan, Michael Minister for Finance
USA Noonan, Peggy Author, Columnist, The Wall Street Journal
FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc
USA Orszag, Peter R. Vice Chairman, Citigroup
GRC Papalexopoulos, Dimitri Managing Director, Titan Cement Co.
NLD Pechtold, Alexander Parliamentary Leader, Democrats '66 (D66)
USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
NLD Polman, Paul CEO, Unilever PLC
CAN Prichard, J. Robert S. Chair, Torys LLP
ISR Rabinovich, Itamar Global Distinguished Professor, New York University
GBR Rachman, Gideon Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator, The Financial Times
USA Rattner, Steven Chairman, Willett Advisors LLC
CAN Redford, Alison M. Premier of Alberta
CAN Reisman, Heather M. CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
DEU Reitzle, Wolfgang CEO & President, Linde AG
USA Rogoff, Kenneth S. Professor of Economics, Harvard University
USA Rose, Charlie Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose
USA Ross, Dennis B. Counselor, Washington Institute for Near East Policy
POL Rostowski, Jacek Minister of Finance
USA Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
NLD Rutte, Mark Prime Minister
ESP Sáenz de Santamaría Antón, Soraya Vice President and Minister for the Presidency
NLD Scheffer, Paul Professor of European Studies, Tilburg University
USA Schmidt, Eric E. Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
FRA Senard, Jean-Dominique CEO, Michelin Group
USA Shambaugh, David Director, China Policy Program, George Washington University
INT Sheeran, Josette Vice Chairman, World Economic Forum
FIN Siilasmaa, Risto Chairman of the Board of Directors, Nokia Corporation
USA Speyer, Jerry I. Chairman and Co-CEO, Tishman Speyer
CHE Supino, Pietro Chairman and Publisher, Tamedia AG
IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Clarium Capital / Thiel Capital
TUR Timuray, Serpil CEO, Vodafone Turkey
DEU Trittin, Jürgen Parliamentary Leader, Alliance 90/The Greens
GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President, Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy
FIN Urpilainen, Jutta Minister of Finance
CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Chairman, Novartis AG
INT Vimont, Pierre Executive Secretary General, European External Action Service
GBR Voser, Peter CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB
USA Warsh, Kevin Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University
GBR Wolf, Martin H. Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times
USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company
CAN Wright, Nigel S. Chief of Staff, Office of the Prime Minister
USA Yergin, Daniel Chairman, IHS Cambridge Energy Research Associates
INT Zoellick, Robert B. President, The World Bank Group




Rapporteurs
GBR Bredow, Vendeline von Business Correspondent, The Economist
GBR Wooldridge, Adrian D. Foreign Correspondent, The Economist

Insider: Bilderberg Members Share Ron Paul Death Wish


Heated conversation about Congressman dying in plane crash takes place in hotel lobby

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, June 1, 2012

During a heated conversation in the lobby of the Westfields Marriott hotel yesterday, Bilderberg members expressed their desire to see Ron Paul die in a plane crash, according to veteran journalist Jim Tucker’s inside source.


The close up shot was necessary to eliminate background noise. A full interview with Jim Tucker (AmericanFreePress.net) will be posted later.

The shocking exchange took place just after Bilderberg attendees started arriving yesterday morning as they were driven through crowds of hundreds of Paul-supporting demonstrators.

Wasting no time to shoot their mouths off, one Bilderberg member expressed his desire to, “Get Ron Paul and all of his supporters on an airplane with a Muslim suicide pilot and take ‘em down,” according to Tucker’s source, which has been proven routinely accurate with Bilderberg information in the past.

“That was the harshest comment made but there were a lot of mean-spirited comments made as the Bilderberg boys gathered in the lobby of the hotel,” added Tucker.

Tucker explained that the Bilderbergers are becoming increasingly irate at the resistance amongst patriotic Americans to their program, with protest figures rising at each annual confab.

“The program planned by Bilderberg has been set back for years and every year it gets worse and every year they get more depressed and every year they get more outraged – we’re winning, they’re losing,” said Tucker.

Bilderberg is furious that Paul is working to stop the full ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty, which as we documented yesterday is being discussed at this year’s conference. The treaty would hand the United Nations control over all U.S. oceans and force ships to pay a tariff directly to the global body.

This is not the first time Bilderberg members have expressed their desire to see the Texan Congressman and staunch constitutionalist meet his maker.

Back in December 2007, best-selling author and Bilderberg sleuth Daniel Estulin told the Alex Jones Show that the U.S. intelligence establishment was considering assassinating Paul as a means of derailing the Ron Paul Revolution, which later gave rise to the Tea Party and spawned a generation of anti-big government grass roots activists.

Likewise, I am sure....

Aside from all of the frightening implications of this years gathering, notice that the only "islamic" presence is Turkey. I was in Turkey last year and they are rapidly becoming more and more anti-western (no real news there). But note that our normal suspects like the Saudis, Emiraties and Jordanians do not appear to be part of this particular NWO. Strategically, Turkey is a gateway to bridge world "gaps" to the Far East.
To quote loosely from another post on AWRM we have GOT to be on full alert now as things appear to be spinning out of control very rapidly.
May God Bless Us all with Wisdom and Courage, and thanks for all of the timely information and advice you all provide people like me.

i feel like im in a police state here at the meetings

What would we do if they did murder Ron Paul?

Would we and other Patiots just sit on our arses or would the Enemy pay a terrible price for what they did?

Maybe it is time for Patriots to let it be know that we will no longer tolerate the Murder of our Brother Patriots, especially a Patriot of the Stature of Sen Ron Paul.

Patriots need to make some major decisions on what we will do when the enemy begins the real attacks and we should have made these decisions several years ago and we are now at the point where to delay much longer will cost the lives of many Patriots.

As Breacher has repeatedly pointed out, we have no street credibility.

I'll leave anything else I might say at that.

Credibility.
Every single day there are Americans out there in this great land earning thier chops with direct action or simply protesting in the streets. They are making it known that they will no longer accept this corrupt system in which a ruling class of corporate masters and their political dogs turn this country into a fascist police state.
When I first started going to marches and different events and doing different things I thought I was doing something for my people, for all Americans.
What I eventually came to was this... I was doing it for myself so that I could be brave, for it is a most terrible feeling to fear our government. Before I became active in the anti-fascist movement I was afraid of the government and that made me angry and with that came the thoughts that I had to do something, what I don't know, but wanting to do something and not know what to do made me feel useless and that made me angry too.
So initially I start stocking up and networking. Then I became paranoid because I was still living in fear.
It was very difficult for me to put myself out there the first time I publically protested. but after I did it I knew I had credibility.
People are funny, mostly its the civilians, once they have learned that you are active they seem to pay more attention when you are telling them... oh say, Whenever I hear a speech by some politician or oligarch I am always trying to figure out what the trick is... or say, hell it doens't matter, people will listen a little more and not put it off as a conspiracy.
Most Americans are sitll in denial, they don't want to believe what is happening and where we are headed. I think a lot of people woke up at the same time with this Occupy movement, they were mad and hit the streets.
The five stages of awakening is an interesting concept. It is like the 5 stages of grief after a loved ones death, but I am off ona tangent.

After a while it became easy because I am not afraid anymore. The truth is you can go out in public and say anything you want to say as long as you don't threaten to hurt anyone or yourself or threaten to destroy property. And then if you get arrested, so what.

When I got out of the Corps I attended Western Kentucky University. Being a man I was not going to live in a dorm with the kids so I rented small houses or apartments within walking distance of the campus.
It was in these neighborhoods that I found groups of people that I had always heard about but had never really interracted with. The tree huggers/hippies, the dopers, the frat/sorority houses. My first set of neighbors were militant lesbian libertarians.
Who Knew! Certainly not me, growing up on the Kentucky/Tennessee state line and joining the Corps as soon as I could left me ignorant about people in general.
Rites of passage are now rare in America. For it is a shame that a great majority of American males have not made the transition to manhood.
Credibility. Rite of Passage. Seems like there might be a connection there.
So I met all these different kinds of people while I was in school and in the summers I met other people while I was out earning my tuition money. I learned that we all have this common belief that America is not headed in the right direction. Everyone felt that the system was beyond repair and something has to be done.

As the GI bill helped it was certainly not enough to pay my way. I worked tobacco and on towboats, anything to pay the bill, some hard work with tough men and some easy work with all the rest.
I learned few things from the older men that I worked with. It is that if you want to have credibility, you have to damn well do what you say you are going to do. As a green grunt I learned that I had no right to complain about anything untill I had passed a few tests, a few rites of passage. Same as being a green deckhand on a towboat, untill you have lived it your words alone will not affirm your claims of competence or credibility. We are all in this together.

Holden, those are some great words and I copied and attributed them to you here: http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/06/credibility.html

We are what we do.

What are you doing?

Not wasting my time carrying signs with painted on little yellow daisies.

What am I doing?
Thank you for asking.
I am a member of Liasion Company.

We are currently working to link communication between various entities, i.e. Militia Units, Occupy, Tea Party, Deep Green Resistance, Prepper groups, Black Bloc, CSA farms, Oath Keepers, Rolling Thunder, etc...

We are working toward linking some of the various groups that are working in thier specific geographical locations.

Me, what I do specifically is something like this... I might go up to an anti-war rally in Lexington, Ky on the UK campus or one in Louisville on U of L campus, or attend a political rally in Frankfort, mayhaps I will findmyself at a turkey shoot here in Barren County, Ky, anywhere there is a group of people meeting. I then seek out the leadership or the next best choice and talk to them about what I am doing. I might stop in at Knob Creek in the spring or fall and talk to a few of the leaders there. I attend 3 Gun shoots at Park Mammoth Resort and I might find someone to talk to there.

United We Stand Divided We Fall

Thats about it, nothing illegal and all on the up and up for I am honest with the people that I am talking to.

What are you doing J Croft?

The marxists love it when we attempt to retake our nation using their tactics.

See, we applied the Bill of Rights and let them express themselves.

They destroy the Constitution and couldn't give a damn about what we think or say. Neither does the MSM which they control.

They do get some pretty good laughs out of it though, I am sure.

So pack some heat slung on your shoulder Jarhead.
Or just show up and just be a face in the crowd. Just because we don't agree on the details does not mean that we should be divided in our aim to stop the fascists.

Jarhead, There is nothing to retake. It alredy belongs to us all. We just have to start acting like it.

And you are right, the Power does not care what we think or what we say. That, in the main is the issue.

But you can damn well believe that they care what we do because if they didn't they would not have 30-40K enforcers attend the last political conventions that were held before the 2008 presidental election.

United We Stand Divided We Fall

Just making the point.

I agree that it is good for you do the work of trying to unite us.

It is simply my lifelong experience that tells me protests and such are of little use. I suppose it gives some a reason to think they are making a difference. Perhaps it is one step closer to realizing their tactics are flawed.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no way we should even consider linking up in any way whatsoever with the Commie Occupy movement.

I don't know enough about Deep Green Resistance, Black Bloc, CSA farms and Rolling Thunder to have an opinion, but as to the Occupy movement I do know enough to state that they are as much the Enemy as is the current Administration, the only difference is that they are not currently in a position of power while the Administration is in Power.

If the Occupy bastards were even to gain Power they would be as bad or even worse then the Obama Administration, and as far as I am concerned that is a fact.

If you have any doubts as to the validity of my statement just check out the following site.

http://www.massresistance.org/

And that is not the only evidence I have read that supports my opinion of the Occupy movement.

I also believe that if we are stupid enough to fight alongside the Occupy scum and we win which we will, we will not live in peace for very long since we will then have to fight the Occupy scum for control of our Nation since their plans for the future of the United States are totally different then our plans.

The Occupy scum want a Socialist “Share The Wealth” utopia, while Patriots, meaning people like us want to Restore the Constitutional Republic which the Founding Fathers gave us.

We need to be very very careful who we make alliances with, and I would not trust the Occupy people as far as I can toss a Belgian Horse or M1 Battle Tank.

As far as stopping the fascists my opinion is that replacing Hitler and Nazi Germany with Stalin and The Soviet Union would not be much of an improvement and I believe it would be even worse.

As far as I am concerned the Occupy movement can go F themselves, and I am not going to have anything to do with them.

Sniper, I do understand your concerns. But there is no bubble to be burst here. I accept the way it is now in America and where it is headed.

Only in accepting it can I realize my relationship to it and my role and what I think I can do to contribute to our goal of having a government that truly bases its actions on the will of Americans instead of the will of corporate entities as it does so now.

It is an all or nothing stand. United We Stand or Divided We will fall deeper into this tyranny of the corporate controlled police state.

As you well know there is a massive disinformation apparatus at work against those of us that seek the truth about the State of or the current climate of, or the will of Americans.

Why should we, those of us who can see the truth of it, Why should we rely on the media outlets of the disinformation apparatus for information on other Americans and what they are thinking?

There is a reason words like producers and programming are used when talking about news information. There are no such things as reality tv or an on the spot live interview. Everything is produced, planned and designed to program an opinion within the reciepient to that said news information whether it be readon the net or in a paper or seen on tv.

For example, 40 years ago there were over 250 companies that owned the media outlets, i.e. tv stations, radio, newspapers, etc.

There are now 5 multinational corporations that controll ALL media outlets, including the net. And as I am sure you already know the corporations and our government are now one.

The truth is this, If you do not get out there where Americans are gathering for redress and open your own eyes and your own ears then you do not know what the truth is about any particular situation, march, protest, etc. that is reported by the 5 multinational corporations that controll ALL news content.

Do you believe that there is a liberal bias in the media?

Do you believe that the 5 multinational corporations that controll All media outlets have a liberal bias?

Do you believe that if a lie is told often enough it will become the truth?

So, last November I had some time and I drove to New York city. I spend one at Zucotti park and around the Wall street area.

Here is what I saw. Americans gathered, dreadlocked hippies from California, high and tights from NC, a large slice of Ron Pauls Army, blue hairs from Ohio, Tea Party folks from Tennessee, It was a representation of Americans from all backgrounds.

What did I see on television that night in my hotel room? I saw very narrow and extremely biased reporting on the Americans that were there.

As it has been for a long time in America we have social programs. Yes, the V.A. system, Social Security, Food Stamps, Welfare, Hud, and a whole pleothra of other like programs were all Socialist inspired programs. Where would we really be without them? I don't know.

America has not had Free Market Capitalism for a long time, it is a system of economic freedoms and controlls as you know. In that I will say that the disinformation apparatus would have us believe that this is something new coming in from on the left, but it is not, it is already here and not important, just a distraction as is the programming that we are bombarded with about abortion, birth controll, who decides to marry who, what fool said this and what fool said that.

U.S. Bilderberg Attendees Violating Federal Law, Activists Say


Alex Newman
New American
June 3, 2012

As a shadowy collection of the world’s power brokers gathers in Chantilly, Virginia, for the elite Bilderberg conference this weekend under unprecedented media scrutiny, activists from across the political spectrum are arguing that U.S. citizens attending the controversial confab are potentially committing a felony by violating the Logan Act. And while the chances of charges being brought anytime soon are probably slim, anti-Bilderberg protesters admit, more than a few critics of the meeting are still loudly calling for federal prosecutions to bring any and all perpetrators to justice.

The yearly gathering includes media magnates, titans of industry, top bankers, influential politicians, royalty and nobility, prominent academics, military and “intelligence” chieftains, and many other members of the so-called “global elite.” And the 2012 conference is no different. According to a guest list released by the group — which analysts who study Bilderberg say typically omits certain key participants — there are about 50 Americans in attendance, all of them extraordinarily influential. Other participants hailed mostly from Europe, though even a high-ranking official from the Communist dictatorship ruling China was in attendance this year.

The legal problem raised by critics is that federal law specifically bars any U.S. citizen without government permission from working with foreign officials on matters of policy. Passed under the John Adams administration in 1799, the Logan Act was amended as recently as the 1990s and, despite almost never being used, remains on the books today. And that, Bilderberg opponents say, means that Americans meeting with foreign officials at the secretive gathering should be investigated and eventually prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

The Logan Act states, in part: “Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

Numerous bloggers and activists have suggested that, based just on what is known already from public statements, simply attending a Bilderberg meeting should constitute sufficient grounds for immediate arrest and investigation of Americans. At least one activist and commentator, Brian D. Hill, has already notified police of the potential violation at what he described to law enforcement as the “criminal gathering” in Virginia. It was not immediately clear whether authorities looked into the matter.

“This is illegal,” popular radio-host Alex Jones, famous for using a bullhorn to lambaste elite attendees from afar, was quoted as saying by the U.K. Guardian newspaper as he led chanting “Occupy Bilderberg” protesters outside the gathering. “Government officials meeting and discussing policy with private interests in secret, or representatives of other governments, is a violation of the Logan Act.”

Protesters gathered outside the Westfields Marriot hotel where the Bilderberg meeting is underway also demanded prosecutions, calling on police to arrest the participants for everything from violations of the Logan Act to involvement in war crimes, mass murder, conspiracy, and more. Other activists carried signs urging law enforcement officials to take action against what critics consistently refer to as a gathering of “criminals.”

“All of them are in violation of the law and should be arrested immediately,” noted liberty-minded analyst Kurt Nimmo in a piece declaring that the meeting was itself illegal. “Considering their other crimes — war, mass murder, the theft of trillions and other assorted monumental scams and felonies — violating the Logan Act pales in comparison. It would be nice, though, if one or two of the cops now surrounding the Marriott in Chantilly marched into the meeting and arrested a few of the traitors.”

In online forums, blog posts, and the comment sections of news articles all across the internet, commentators outraged about alleged Logan Act violations and the secret meeting more broadly also demanded that American attendees be arrested. Some even pondered what would happen if a brave public official decided to risk an attempt at actually enforcing the law.

“Considering the Logan Act is still on the books, the participation of government officials at Bilderberg is blatantly illegal,” noted a commenter on an online forum of dedicated Rep. Ron Paul supporters, wondering what would happen if Virginia Gov. Robert McDonnell decided to arrest the participants. “We have the complete list of attendants, so, in a just world, it would not be difficult to prosecute these criminals.”

Last year, Rep. Paul himself called for an investigation and noted that U.S. officials participating in the yearly gathering — specifically Texas Gov. Rick Perry — were quite possibly breaking the law. “This information about him going over there and violating the Logan Act and getting involved, I’m just impressed that that’s in the ordinary media — I think that’s encouraging, too,” Paul said during an interview on talk radio, noting that Gov. Perry’s attendance was “a sign that he’s involved in the international conspiracy.”

But while the potential Logan Act violations were generally overlooked in most of the U.S. press, foreign reporters and news outlets did mention it — especially in, bizarrely enough, Russia. “The Bilderberg Conference may have been largely ignored by the media in decades past, but with this year’s gathering garnering perhaps the most attention in recent memory, the actions of elected US officials this time could end up being enough to bring charges against them,” reported the Kremlin-funded RT broadcaster.

Even Pravda ran an online column attacking the meeting and the alleged law breaking going on there. “The Bilderbergs are people who say they are helping humanity so they can make a buck, but are as arrogant as Lucifer and no more sympathetic than he is towards mankind,” wrote Xavier Lerma, claiming that the “Communists took over” America decades ago. “Why is the Bilderberg meeting a big deal. Well, for one thing it is illegal under the Logan Act which makes their New World Order illegal.”

There were more than a few Americans directly tied to government in attendance at this year’s gathering. Among them: NSA chief General Keith Alexander; Thomas Donilon, Obama’s National Security Adviser; former U.S. National Security Adviser and “New World Order” promoter Henry Kissinger; failed GOP Presidential hopeful and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman; Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.); World Bank boss Robert Zoellick; Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Co-Chair and former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin; and many others.

Outside of government – at least officially – were other important U.S. players in global affairs. Banking, media, industry, tax-exempt foundations, internet, and many other fields were represented. Some of the American attendees included Michael Evans, the vice chairman of Goldman Sachs; Reid Hoffman, the co-founder and executive chairman of the social-networking site LinkedIn; Environmental Defense Fund President Fred Krupp; Dow Chemical chief Andrew Liveris; Carnegie Endowment boss Jessica Mathews; Washington Post CEO Donald Graham, Craig Mundie, Chief Research and Strategy Officer for Microsoft; Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan; Citigroup Vice Chairman Peter Orszag; Arch neo-conservative Richard Perle with the American Enterprise Institute; media icon Charlie Rose; Eric Schmidt, the executive chairman of Google; and many more.

Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels also appeared at the gathering briefly, leading Bilderberg commentators to speculate that he may have been vetted or groomed for future positions of influence, including possibly the Vice President slot on a Mitt Romney GOP ticket. Daniels apparently left early and returned to Indiana on Friday, local media reported. Posters on Twitter also cited the Logan Act while blasting his attendance.

“The Conference will deal mainly with political, economic and societal issues like Transatlantic Relations, Evolution of the Political Landscape in Europe and the US, Austerity and Growth in Developed Economies, Cyber Security, Energy Challenges, the Future of Democracy, Russia, China and the Middle East,” claimed an official press release by the controversial group, founded more than 50 years ago by Nazi SS member Prince Bernhard of Holland and others. “The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion…. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued.”

At least two anti-Bilderberg protesters have been arrested for alleged “jaywalking” and “disorderly conduct.” But with Attorney General Eric Holder and his Justice Department already under fire for allegedly lying under oath, obstructing congressional investigations, unlawfully defying subpoenas, shipping American guns to Mexican cartels, and laundering drug money, activists are not optimistic about the chances of Bilderberg attendees being charged with a federal offense anytime soon.

Current Intel Report-

Posted by Walfred L.E. on October 5, 2011 at 7:00pm

Intelligence Report:

Operation OCCUPY Wall St. is a false opposition movement generated by the NWO under the direct control of George Soros.The individuals involved don't know why they are there.They will soon find out(if they knew who they were helping they would go home).Now that the
"protest(s)"have started they will spread to other cities and increase in size and scope. Once it is clear that they are not going to stop,new faces will arrive on the scene.These will be a collection of Union thugs/Black Panthers/Street gangsters and NATO Spl.operations Units.The violence will begin soon after their arrival and by Mid-Nov there could be Nation wide damage to property and possibly Martial L@w.

Local and state L.E.O.'s moved in shortly after my post to circumvent the plan for Nation wide
violence/Chaos...

Now they are trying to breath new life into "OCCUPY" and make it appear to be a productive "grass roots" movement of the people(under NWO control).

I'm all for "We the People" standing together!But,we must be very careful.It's close!Real close!....

OCCUPY = NWO COINTEL PRO

Operation OCCUPY Wall St. is a false opposition movement generated by the NWO under the direct control of George Soros.

Walfred, you posted it but who wrote it?

Or maybee you could find something like this that the disinformation apparatus has put out for our consumption....

(Reuters) - George Soros isn't a financial backer of the Wall Street protests, despite speculation by critics including radio host Rush Limbaugh that the billionaire investor has helped fuel the anti-capitalist movement.

Limbaugh summed up the chatter when he told his listeners last week, "George Soros money is behind this."

Soros spokesman Michael Vachon said that Soros has not "funded the protests directly or indirectly." He added: "Assertions to the contrary are an attempt by those who oppose the protesters to cast doubt on the authenticity of the movement."

Soros has donated at least $3.5 million to an organization called the Tides Center in recent years, earmarking the funds for specific purposes. Tides has given grants to Adbusters, an anti-capitalist group in Canada whose inventive marketing campaign sparked the first demonstrations last month.

Vachon said Open Society specified what its donations could be used for. He said they were not general purpose funds to be used at the discretion of Tides -- for example for grants to Adbusters. "Our grants to Tides were for other purposes."

Tides declined to comment.

According to IRS disclosure documents from 2007-2009, the latest data available, Soros' Open Society gave grants of $3.5 million to Tides, a San Francisco-based group that acts almost like a clearing house for other donors, directing their contributions to liberal non-profit groups. Among others the Tides Center has partnered with are the Ford Foundation and the Gates Foundation.

IRS disclosure documents and reports from Tides also show that Tides gave Adbusters grants of $185,000 from 2001-2010, including nearly $26,000 between 2007-2009.

The Vancouver-based Adbusters publishes a magazine with a circulation of 120,000 and is known for its spoofs of popular advertisements. It says it wants to "change the way corporations wield power" and its goal is "to topple existing power structures."

Adbusters co-founder Kalle Lasn said the group is 95 percent funded by subscribers paying for the magazine.

"George Soros's ideas are quite good, many of them. I wish he would give Adbusters some money, we sorely need it," he said. "He's never given us a penny."

Adbusters may have sparked Occupy Wall Street but it is by no means in control of the disparate movement, with the protests now in their fourth week and spreading to cities across America. President Barack Obama, BlackRock Chief Executive Laurence Fink and Soros himself are among those who have expressed sympathy for the protesters' frustration with high unemployment.

SHARED FRUSTRATION

"I can understand their sentiment," Soros told reporters last week at the United Nations about the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations, which are expected to spur solidarity marches globally on Saturday. He declined to comment further.

Soros, 81, is No. 7 on the Forbes 400 list with a fortune of $22 billion, which has ballooned in recent years as he deftly responded to financial market turmoil. He has pledged to give away all his wealth, half of it while he earns it and the rest when he dies.

Like the protesters, Soros is no fan of the 2008 bank bailouts and subsequent government purchase of the toxic sub-prime mortgage assets they amassed in the property bubble.

The protesters say the Wall Street bank bailouts in 2008 left banks enjoying huge profits while average Americans suffered under high unemployment and job insecurity with little help from Washington. They contend that the richest 1 percent of Americans have amassed vast fortunes while being taxed at a lower rate than most people.

Soros in 2009 wrote in an editorial that the purchase of toxic bank assets would, "provide artificial life support for the banks at considerable expense to the taxpayer."

He urged the Obama administration to take bolder action, either by recapitalizing or nationalizing the banks and forcing them to lend at attractive rates. His advice went unheeded.

The Hungarian-American was an early supporter of the 2008 election campaign of Barack Obama, who will seek a second term as president in the November, 2012, election. He has long backed liberal causes - the Open Society Institute, the foreign policy think tank Council on Foreign Relations and Human Rights Watch.

SLOW START

Adbusters, which publishes a magazine and runs such campaigns as "Digital Detox Week" and "Buy Nothing Day," came up with the Occupy Wall Street idea after Arab Spring protests toppled governments in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia, said Lasn, the 69-year-old co-founder of the group.

"It came out of these brainstorming sessions we have at Adbusters," Lasn told Reuters, adding they began promoting it online on July 13. "We were inspired by what happened in Tunisia and Egypt and we had this feeling that America was ripe for a Tahrir moment."

"We felt there was a real rage building up in America, and we thought that we would like to create a spark which would give expression for this rage."

Other support for Occupy Wall Street has come from online funding website Kickstarter, where more than $75,000 has been pledged, deliveries of food and from cash dropped in a bucket at the park. Liberal film maker Michael Moore has also pledged to donate money.

The protests began in earnest on September 17, triggered by an Adbusters campaign featuring a provocative poster showing a ballerina dancing atop the famous bronze bull in New York's financial district as a crowd of protesters wearing gas masks approach behind her.

Dressed in anarchist black, the battle-ready mob is shrouded in a fog suggestive of tear gas or fires burning. Some are wearing gas masks, others wielding sticks. The poster's message seems to be a heady combination of sexuality, violence, excitement and adventure.

Former carpenter Robert Daros, 23, saw that poster in a cafe in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Having lost his work as a carpenter after Florida's speculative construction boom collapsed in a heap of sub-prime mortgage foreclosures, he quit his job as a bartender and traveled to New York City with just a sleeping bag and the hope of joining the protest movement.

Daros was one of the first people to arrive on Wall Street for the so-called occupation on September 17, when protesters marched and tried to camp on Wall Street only to be driven off by police to Zuccotti Park - two acres of concrete without a blade of grass near the rising One World Trade Center.

"When I was a carpenter, I lost my job because the financier of my project was arrested for corporate fraud," said Daros, who was wearing a red arm band to show he was helping out in the medic section of the Occupy Wall Street camp.

Since its obscure beginnings, the campaign has drawn global media attention in places as far-flung as Iran and China. The Times of London, however, was not alone when it called the protests "Passionate but Pointless."

Adbusters' co-founder Lasn dismisses that, reeling off specific demands: a tax on the richest 1 percent, a tax on currency trades and a tax on all financial transactions.

"Down the road, there will be crystal clear demands coming out of this movement," he said. "But this first phase of the movement is messy and leaderless and demandless."

"I think it was perfect the way it happened."

(Recasts with comment from Soros aide, adds new details to clarify. The original version can be found here)

(Additional reporting by Cezary Podkul in New York and Cameron French in Toronto, writing by Mark Egan, editing by Claudia Parsons)

OR MAYBEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS....

Reuters's Dizzying Changes to Its Soros-Occupy Wall Street Story
Share Print article Share on emailEmail article Comments (13) Adam Clark Estes 7,787 Views Oct 13, 2011 Because of a "technical glitch" and an editor's mistake, Reuters published a story that alleged that George Soros was the secret backer of the Occupy Wall Street protests because he gave money to a group that gave money to a group that was an early publicizer of the protests. It was roundly mocked in media circles today, especially after the story went from carrying the headline "Who's Behind the Wall Street Protests" to "Soros: Not a Funder of Wall Street Protests." Now it's back to the original again. We asked Reuters what happened and their version of the play-by-play is a little bit confusing, so bear with us.

The first version went up at 11:09 a.m., and was captured by The New York Observer, and did not include comment from Soros's spokesman. Headline: Who's behind the Wall St. protests?" Well, media reporters flipped out, and Reuters' own Felix Salmon penned a column lambasting his employer for publishing a story with "no real substance to it at all."


At 5:25 p.m., Reuters updated the story with comment from Soros's spokesman--it's pictured below. Headline: "Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests." The URLs match, but there's no editor's note appended about the update. And the story reads completely differently.


Then at 6:45 p.m., the original headline reappeared above an updated story with comments from Soros's spokesperson. Again, it's the same URL, however, the original lede is back, and it takes until the third graf before you realize that Soros is now denying the connection.


The story's editor, Claudia Parsons, took partial blame for the stuttering, dizzying nature of the updates. "All I can say is there was a technical glitch with story numbers on our internal system," Parsons told The Atlantic Wire. "That may have been a problem which is why you saw the other one. That was my mistake. I may have put the wrong number on there," she said referring to Reuters' content management system.

Reuters's editor for ethics and standards Alix M. Freedman indicated that updates like this one are quite common at the newswire. "We update stories all the time when we get more information," said Parsons. "As soon as the spokesmen for Soros provided us with more information we provided an update."

Freedman added that the updated story had been sent over the wires and uploaded to the website, but the original version would still be available online. At the time of this posting, we weren't able to find the original version or an editor's note, however Freedman alerted us that their online team was "having a technical problem, which it is working to fix now." (Update: Reuters now has two separate working links for the story. The updated version can be found here with this note on the bottom: "Recasts with comment from Soros aide, adds new details to clarify. The original version can be found here.")

As for the debate over the original story, Reuters welcomes it. "We encourage free and open debate in the media world and inside Reuters itself," Parsons said. We also asked if there was any debate about the original reporting being too thin before it was published. "Not that was brought to my attention," said Freedman. "I'm not aware of any."

Want to add to this story? Let us know in comments or send an email to the author at aestes@theatlantic.com. You can share ideas for stories on the Open Wire.
Adam Clark Estes


If one wanted to learn more about Soros then perhaps they might read some of the following books.

Financial Turmoil in Europe and the United States: Essays (PublicAffairs,2012). ISBN 1-61039-161-0
The Soros Lectures at the Central European University (PublicAffairs, 2010) ISBN 1-58648-885-7
The New Paradigm for Financial Markets: The Credit Crisis of 2008 and What it Means (PublicAffairs, 2008). ISBN 1-58648-683-7
The Age of Fallibility: Consequences of the War on Terror (PublicAffairs, 2006) ISBN 1-58648-359-5
The Bubble of American Supremacy: Correcting the Misuse of American Power (PublicAffairs, 2003) ISBN 1-58648-217-3 (paperback; PublicAffairs, 2004; ISBN 1-58648-292-0)
George Soros on Globalization (PublicAffairs, 2002) ISBN 1-58648-125-8 (paperback; PublicAffairs, 2005; ISBN 1-5264-8278-5)
Open Society: Reforming Global Capitalism (PublicAffairs, 2001) ISBN 1-58648-039-7
With Mark Amadeus Notturno, Science and the Open Society: The Future of Karl Popper's Philosophy (Central European University Press, 2000) ISBN 963-9116-69-6 (paperback: Central European University Press, 2000; ISBN 94-391-1670-X)
The Crisis of Global Capitalism: Open Society Endangered (PublicAffairs, 1998) ISBN 1-891220-27-4
Soros on Soros: Staying Ahead of the Curve (John Wiley, 1995) ISBN 0-471-12014-6 (paperback; Wiley, 1995; ISBN 0-371-11977-6)
Underwriting Democracy: Encouraging Free Enterprise and Democratic Reform Among the Soviets and in Eastern Europe (Free Press, 1991) ISBN 0-02-930285-4 (paperback; PublicAffairs, 2004; ISBN 1-58948-227-0)
Opening the Soviet System (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1990) ISBN 0-297-82155-9 (paperback: Perseus Books, 1996; ISBN 0-8133-1205-1)
The Alchemy of Finance (Simon & Schuster, 1988) ISBN 0-671-66338-4 (paperback: Wiley, 2003; ISBN 0-471-44549-5)


THE TRUTH-if a man does not go out into America where the people are gathering and open his own eyes and ears then he really does not know what is going on in our country.

In an effort to be your own gauge about the State of the Union get out there and blend in with the urban camo of a ball cap and jeans and tee shirt and not have to constantly wonder... is it going to happen today, next week, next year.

The disinformation apparatus will always program conflicting accounts of any given event. It leaves Americans to scratch the head and wonder.... What is the trick this time.

United we Stand or Divided We fall deeper into the corporate controlled fascist police state.

LMAO

Had you pegged right off, so no surprise.

What a fucking whitewash job.

THE TRUTH-if a man does not go out into America where the people are gathering and open his own eyes and ears then he really does not know what is going on in our country.

In an effort to be your own gauge about the State of the Union get out there and blend in with the urban camo of a ball cap and jeans and tee shirt and not have to constantly wonder... is it going to happen today, next week, next year.

The disinformation apparatus will always program conflicting accounts of any given event. It leaves Americans to scratch the head and wonder.... What is the trick this time.

United we Stand or Divided We fall deeper into the corporate controlled fascist police state.

[ 06-03-2012, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Holden Karre ]

National socialism and Marxist socialism are two sides of the same coin.Created by the Fabian socialists to build opposing armies and bring the world to the brink of destruction.

I write what I post!Based on Intel from the Intelligence network of Patriots I have bin a member of for over 31 yrs.

My portion is small,but I will give my all for God and country!My will is strong,my Katana sword is sharp.

Walfred, If I have been offensive please accept my apologies.

Holden Karre, I partially agree with you that we Americans who are awake need to work with those who are not awake. The problem I see is that the vast majority of those who think they're doing good, e.g., the OWS crowd, are so steeped in the statist dogma they've been fed that there is no waking them up. As such, we would indeed have another problem on our hands should we see victory. We would need to fight off their attempts to impose by state force (i.e., violence) their version of heaven on earth--a "utopia". For some interesting thoughts on who should be working with whom and for what reasons, please check out this post .

Folks
There are a couple of thoughts that need to be rolled around in those heads along with these thoughts posted here.
What are you willing to give up to achieve freedom. TODAY
This is the decision that must stay fertile just behind our eyes in that hard rock of a head. When we are sitting in a traffic stop by a local yokel, and notice that he has a well dressed civilian in his jump seat what do you tell him, and what do you allow to pass?
When you are sitting on your front porch and notice a black crown Victoria with a dozen antennas doing slow drive bys on a neighbours house what do you do? Who do you call.
When you are checking out at God forbid Walmarts and notice a guy standing near the sporting goods displays with a cell phone taking pictures, what do you do or say?
There is no organization either in the freedom camp, or the oppression camps, that has all true members. In every case they belong for purely personal reasons. For some it is by coercion. For others it is by dedication to the cause. For even more it is for purely altruistic wealth accumulation.
When we call others names using the media inspired titles and curses we have to take all of this in to account.
There was only one man who ever walked on water. The rest of us must be satisfied if the water we walk in only gets up to a comfortable level.

Holden,

I'm organizing outside of anyone's communications and those I'm organizing don't know it.

Also, there are some regular posters at AWRM who don't have the ideological flexibility to distinguish people awakening from ringers and operatives steering them into a trap. Do your own thing, and I'm glad you're relatively nearby.

J

Bilderberg Members Label Protesters “Cockroaches”


Hotel staff rooted for Alex Jones while conference was in progress

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, June 4, 2012

Once again betraying their sneering arrogance towards the American people and the first amendment, Bilderberg members attending their annual confab in Chantilly Virginia this past weekend referred to protesters outside as “cockroaches,” according to one of the hotel employees at the Westfields Marriott.
Bilderberg Members Label Protesters Cockroaches Queen Beatrix at Bilderbe 008

London Guardian writer Charlie Skelton managed to grab a quick word with one of the hotel staff as he was departing the venue. Skelton also gleaned from police that they were far from friendly towards Bilderberg.

“I was helping a cop move a security cordon near some trees, when he lowered his voice and casually let slip: “We don’t support Bilderberg, trust me.” And there’s what a hotel employee told me as he drove through the gates of the hotel. He lowered his window and beckoned me over. “I want you to know that they call you people ‘cockroaches’. I work in the hotel and they asked me if those cockroaches were still out there. They meant you.”

As we reported on Friday, in another conversation that took place in the hotel lobby, arriving Bilderberg members openly expressed their desire to see the demonstrators die in a plane crash.

Despite being sworn to secrecy, hotel employees routinely let slip information about private conversations held by Bilderbergers, primarily as a means of retribution for the rudeness and disrespect with which they are treated by attendees.

Skelton’s report confirms that despite some of the richest people on the planet being in attendance, hotel staff received no tips whatsoever. “This year, no one got anything,” he was told by a source inside the hotel.

After befriending an insider, protester Karen Field also revealed that hotel staff were watching the protests live on their computers while the conference was in progress.

“We had a load of the hotel staff gathered round a computer in the back office, watching Alex Jones – and they’re all rooting for him,” the source told Field.

Field also revealed that despite Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands getting the Penthouse Suite back in 2008, this year it was reserved for Henry Kissinger.

Another leak to emerge according to Field’s source was the fact that, “They don’t just all sit together in a big room – which is what I always thought – but they have tons of separate rooms and they split up for the meetings. The first ones are after 4.30 on Thursday.”

This more private dimension to the conference gives further credence to former NATO Secretary General and Bilderberg attendee Willy Claes statement that Bilderberg expects each member to implement what has been discussed in their relative fields of influence after the meeting is concluded.

Skelton also reports how Bilderberg organizers were confronted by photographers when they were preparing to leave the hotel. Some of the organizers tried to shield their faces, presumably ashamed to be working for a gaggle of globalists who display such malice towards the American people.

The admission that Bilderberg members view those who protest against them as “cockroaches” illustrates how the group represents nothing less than a sinister anti-American, undemocratic, authoritarian and elitist gaggle of control freaks.

During the 2010 Bilderberg confab in Spain, members were overheard complaining about the fact that these “cockroaches” could even afford to travel to different countries in order to makes their voices heard.

This yet again underscores how Bilderberg’s political agenda, conducted behind closed doors and with the compliant silence of most of the mainstream media, is brazenly nefarious in that it is being crafted by people who display absolute contempt for ordinary citizens and their inherent freedoms.

End of Nation State. Good reading Flick.

It may be that one kind of political organization has been forgotten, or mayhaps been demonized by changing its definition and equating it with chaos.

Might have been tribalism... Anarchism, I don't know, but I do know that the word itself is of Greek origin and meant 'absence of leader' and is generally defined as a political philisophy which holds the state to be immoral.

It is also defined as a stateless society based on non-hierarchical voluntary associations.

I got the technical words from wikipedia and also found this quote by Gandhi that was interesting...
The ideally non-violent state will be an ordered anarchy. That state is best governed which is governed the least.

On the lighter side I have also heard a quote attributed to Gandhi but I don't know if it is true...
The reason we chose non-violence is because we didn't have guns.
But who knows if he really said that.

Anyway, back to it.

Flick, have you ever read... A Peoples History of the United States by Howard Zinn. A good read.

I think that our current system of representative democracy is what has to be. changed. Because really, we don't have pure democracy and never have under the current Constitution. Oh sure some states have referendum and recall votes be we do not have a national direct vote.

I believe that direct democracy would be the right path. And to get that we will have to push for an amendment to the Constitution, we can do it that way over generations or the other way which is not good for anyone, but I don't think we have that much more time untill the corporate fascist state is immune to that avenue of change.

What would be the single greatest thing that the great majority of Americans will Identify with?

Safetalker, were you ever a D.I.? On the island the senior always called us rocks, because he said that is what we had between our ears.

I see all that taking place which you speak of and it is troubling to me too.

My true freedom lies within and will never be given up even if my physical actions are restricted.


J. Croft what is your general ao. Are you near Barren County?

Have you ever read the Constitution?

You'd have to rewrite almost the entire document.

That would require a Constitutional Convention, not an Amendment.

Say good bye to the BORs.

The idiot majority that now inhabits this nation would piss away all of our freedoms, now and in the future.

All manner of stupid things would be done, that should be clear to anyone. There is a reason that pure democracy failed in Greece.
There is a reason that Rome and the US adopted a Republican form of Govt.

I wouldn't actually be completely opposed to anarchy but anarchy is ALWAYS a steppingstone to other forms of govt, generally dictatorial.

I don't generally revert to insults on the internet but you are an idiot.

Jarhead, It would generally seem that your mo is solidly estasblished.

The idiot majority? Americans in general?

May be that they are simply not educated and ignorant of how things really are in the world.

It may be that they are just afraid.

I suppose you are right, maybee people deemed as idiots shouldnt be allowed to vote.

Generally every unit has an individual that likes to crack wise, tha tgets his jollies from negating.

You are correct about idiots not being able to vote. A look at this nation's voting history and the fact that all three Const Amends increasing voting rights have favored the Left in extreme form.

I disagree that they are uneducated.

What they have been in well-fucking-indoctrinated.

The orders and directions for that came straight from the Kremlin. Now it has taken a life all its own even after watching the Kremlin collapse.

Then they put all of their marbles into China. That's worked out just fucking great.

Now, it is the ENEMY WITHIN.

You're on the wrong side, ace.


Check out Yuri Bezmenov.
I'll put my synopsis of an interview he did back in 1983 in my next post.

I'm going to type a summary of what he said.

My comments are italicized in green.

First, Yuri Bezmenov defected in 1970 and gave this interview in 1985.
He claims to be a KGB defector and states that the KGB's major mission is not intelligence collection but basically, subversion.

This is undergone in 4 stages:

1] Ideological demoralization
--indoctrinating in socialist/communist belief system and dismantling current belief system
--this is done in the schools, universities and by the media
--it takes a full generation --has now been 3
--requires a lack of moral standards and has been a phenomenal success due to a lack same. This was directed.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams

--these people have now been programmed and it will be impossible to change their logic, behavior and beliefs EVEN if you showed them proof of how it is all lies.

Opposition--first character assassinated, then executed if necessary.

Consider what has happened to any who have not held up political correctness and tolerance of this nation's perversions. Generally, those who have openly opposed the neofascist socialism they intend for us.

An example of the latter is how during Tet in Viet Nam, when the communists took the cities initially, they kidnapped and executed almost all of their opposition in a single night.
They already had their locals that had managed to gather information on all supporters of the US there. Once they moved in they simply rounded them up and executed them.
Freedom of the media, homosexuality, etc will be ended.

The corollary here is those we have talked about who are saying things such as we are going to be watched and dealt with. DO NOT CONSIDER THIS JUST TALK.
In exchange, as I have been saying, we need to be making note of these folks. WE ARE AT WAR. GET A CLUE, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE NOT.

Useful idiots - When disillusioned (they will only realize when this nation collapses and all freedoms are gone) will be the bolsheviks worst enemies. They will be executed, being of no further use to the State.
He was speaking of university professors, ACLU types, media stars, etc. Basically the same people McCarthy talked about and basically the same ones we talk about here.

2] Destabilization

-this takes 2-5 years
-Major targets are:

a] Economy
b] Foreign Relations
c] Defense System
--Bezmenov noted that the takeover, control and dismantling of the first 2 was well on its way and very successful.

3] Crisis Phase
--short
--necessary for taking complete control

"Never waste a crisis" - Rahm Emmanuel and also quoted by Hilary Klinton

--consider recent economic mini-depression and recent events leading up to the election of 0bama, without which I do not believe his election would have been possible.

4] "Normalization"
--this is a cynical term he stated.
--what it is, is the complete takeover of our govt and nation.
--this is facilitated by the crisis stage.
--He stated that if we allowed the politicians and those in power to bring the nation to crisis (we are now there, it appears) we will bring on full fledged socialism with increased entitlements and a Big Brother Govt.

Bezmenov states:
"US is in state of undeclared, total war."
--he seems to view this as now being internal (remember this interview is from 1983).

He further states:

"There is nowhere to defect to. This is the last country of freedom."

We have also discussed this last point here quite a bit.
We either fight here and now, or human freedom is dead.

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His advice on what we should do:

1] Educate
--Patriots
--dangers of socialism, entitlement, Big Brother
Unfortunately, this has been widely and almost totally ignored with everyone wanting more of their own handout--at whatever the cost to freedom, nation, future.

2] FORCE
--"Those aware have to force our govt to stop aiding communism."
--He notes that this cannot be done through writing letters and the political process. It will take FORCE. That's my take on it anyhow.

Pure democracy was anathama to the founders for very good reasons...as Drjarhead has already stated.

The amerikan people have been thoroughly deceived since birth. Very few ever shake off the deception and see thing for what they are.

A representative Republic is designed to protect individual rights and actually gives the people many more checks against tyranny and more opportunities to vote than any so called democracy.

Your basic premise is flawed.

Corporations? Would it be that the true power, the entities that actually write legislation through a proxy of politicians, would it be that these entities have a socialist agenda?

and who, pray tell me, indocked you. If I am not mistaken it might have been basic anti-communist classes at Uncle Sugars Circus of manhood training pn PI and then followed up over at Camp Geiger circa, 1988.

anyway, when a man cannot think for himself it is always easy to latch onto something familiar.

I'm sure I have this all wrong though, as your posts read like two different people.

They often seem to seeth with hate and anger or mayhaps your just having some fun or maybee but I don't know as I have not read all your previous posts, but I will. for all the books say that anyone who advocates violence could be an agent provacateur.

Oh well maybee I mispelled that and maybee I am all wrong about it. Just suspicious I guess.

Nice deflection attempt.

Who indoctrinated me?

Well, I'll say this much: I went through school in 60s and 70s. I remember when it all changed.

I saw right through the attempts to indoctrinate me but marveled at how easily they sucked all the rest in. Truly amazing.

In spite of the marxist skill at subversion it bothers them immensely that some small number of us were immune to it all.


As for corporations, I have a simple solution.
Treat them as individuals, as they wanted to be, and as the Supreme Court ruled.
Limit their contributions to the same amount.

McCain-Feingold needs to be scrapped.

It won't cover it all but it is a start. I could come up with more to limit their control.

I am no fan of large corporations but that is a separate discussion.

Back off boot. Drjarhead is a long time member I won't stand for you smearing of flaming him. You are the provacateur don't push it.

So, thats how it is here.

It might be that you grunts should stick to what your good at... small unit tactics.

HK,
I struggled to read this thread. Don't get me wrong but I agree with ConSigCor. I get the feeling that he has been battling darkness for far longer than me.

If I've been drinking the coolaid, I've been drinking it while living outside NY, Detroit and Los Angeles over more than 50 years. AND, I've traveled to/worked in roughly 50 countries over my lifetime. I just don't like Grape coolaid.

A democratic republic to my mind protects liberties better than a democracy. For instance, without an electorial congress, a politial group could work to control the largest states and inact laws whereby the rest of the states would have little or no say. A simple but effective check against tyranny. By the way, the founding fathers made this case.

Our educational system seems to have dumbed down our citizenry over the past 40-50 years. If nothing else, it has been teaching us collectiveism is better than individualism.

I see thing as what was normal on social issues when I was a kid, is now abnormal in the "unbiased" press and in the schools. Conspiracy?

You're delusional if you think sitting around a camp fire singing kumbya will make this all better. When SHTF I hope your.22 is enough.

Archangel1,

I suppose that I am stuck in the rut of, one person, one vote.

The electoral college, the folks that actually cast the ballots, who are they, how are they picked? Each state makes up its own rules and as it goes along they are often changed when the results are not inline with the status quo.

Popular vote-electoral vote, there are too many variables and that opens the whole process up to be corrupted. As we have been witness to in the past.

Has this democratic republic, this representative republic and its checks and ballances designed to stop tyranny protected us from what is now upon us?

One sovereign man = many votes.

One sovereign man = many votes.

What does that mean?

Has the representative republican model protected us from what is now upon us?

Do the corporations that are in controll of our elected representatives have a liberal, a socialist, a communist agenda?

In my opinion, now this is just mine own opinion, a thorough study of socio-economic United States history from about 1730 up is desperately needed by some of the posters here.

Holden, some of us have studied history and political science...and not just the 'publik skool' pablum...since before you were born. For some, the founding of the republic is part of their family history.

The fascist oligarchs who now rule the world do so with the consent of the governed. We no longer have a functional republic because the people are immoral, dumbed down and ignorant. The oligarchs have usurped authority which was never granted, because the generally dumb masses are apathetic, lazy, selfish, irresponsible, parasitic children. The people are deceived and no longer retain any understanding of their own natural rights, responsibilities and authority.

Government granted privileges can be voted away on a mere political whim through the democratic process. The modern jury trial sham is a perfect example. Take two men chosen for jury duty...the democratic man will think "one man, one vote" and will do as instructed by the judge. The republican man will understand...one man has three votes.

Rights are inherent, something possessed by the natural man. They will only be retained if the people are educated and willing to enforce them.

ConSigCor,

...one man has three votes.

I still don't understand. Please explain this to me.

I do agree with most of what you say. I concur about the jury trial sham, heck 95% of cases are settled in the back room.

"the generally dumb masses are apathetic, lazy, selfish, irresponsible, parasitic children."

I understand why you write this but it is still a generalization. In estimate what percentage of the American population do you consider to fall into this group?

The ones who gave up. Why did they give up? Because they are ignorant, apathetic, selfish, parasitic children?

In 2008 56.8% of people voted, 136,618,580. The voting age population was 231,229,580. With 94,611,000 who didn't vote who could have.

With all due respect, and I don't know if your beliefs are commonly held among the active patriot community, but if they are then it would seem that the oligarchy, and specifically one of its major organs the splc has an extra easy time as writing us off as far right fascists on the same coin with the far left fascists.

Do you think, as do the extreme far left and the extreme far right think that the masses need to be under the iron heel because they cannot make the right choices or don't deserve to even be allowed to make choices simply for thier lack of participation in the political process?

Three votes...

An informed juror can judge
1. the facts in the matter in question ie the case
2. the guilt or innocence of the accused in relation to those facts
3. and the constitutionality of the law itself (whether or not the law is just and or violates the rights of the accused)

That comment is patently absurd.

Just because the majority of people are deceived and ignorant of their rights and responsibilities as citizens doesn't mean they should be placed under an "iron heel". They need to be educated in the proper role of the government and the citizen and accept responsibility for their actions or lack thereof. That was the whole purpose of having a republic rather than a pure democracy in the first place. With a republic, IF the people will enforce their rights, the government has no authority other than what we consent to. In a democracy a simple majority, whether deceived or selfish parasite seeking "free" entitlements, can vote all your rights away and place you under slavery.

Someone awakening for the first time in his life just how wrong things are in this country, then joins the first group opposing them... the Occupy movement... doesn't make them a communist.

Now, more than one regular here has condemned the whole lot as marxists, which is inaccurate. They might well become marxists though if they hypothetically bump into those that shun the Occupy movement instead of seeing the individual as a person to clue in-on their level-just how effed things are in America and that the Occupy movement is designed to tag them and get them to waste their energies supporting a pack of ringers.

Is the veteran who got shot in the head at point blank range by a 12 gauge riot round a commie?

How about that Marine who called about 30 NYPD on their participation in the police state and they didn't have a word to say-he a chekist?

How about some hypothetical American, lost his house to some bankster foreclosure chicanery or his job to China, and is asking 'why'. They're angry, sold a bill of goods and found out they got conned so they're looking for answers. They're looking for a way to respond...

...So where are all the hairy chest-beating militia men? Where's their front political movement?

Okay, what about the TEA Party-oh wait, that's recognized a an arm of the Republican party now.

So what does that leave?

Whose out there?

Occupy movement-and yes it's a front group but it's flaw to the enemy is that it's attracted a lot of people who think like us. It's just that it's the left wing version of the honeytrap... y'know like that militia group you might've nearly joined until you figured out who you signed up for was a fed or snitch.

The enemy subverts militias and 'our' political movements (TEA Party), why not subvert theirs?

Oh, right. Militia don't do that. Militia pound keyboards, recycle Jefferson quotes.

We have NO street cred.

OWS does.

Now, if you had just awakened, what would YOU join?

...And the answer to that is why I've been writing, persuading the Patriots to take a systematic, counter-offensive posture. Why plain English doesn't work can only be attributed to denial.

Oh, Holden, I'm near a very big lake...

We the patriots do have to take a more active stance in our political activity or die waiting for the other shoe to drop!

They have killed the first and they will take the second last, in the mean time we will loose every other right and freedom we have as the work to minimize us as a force!

So,Holden.Or,should I call you Howard?What is the real reason for your abrupt arrival on this board of very distinguished gentlemen and patriots.Clearly you have a background in some type of journalism/writing.Which mean you have studied the liberal arts at some point in your life.Personally,I've read the works of Homer,Socrates,Plato and Shakespeare.It help me to understand to multi-level game the enemy is playing with us.They use a lot of Julius Cesar and Henry VIII type intrigue.Perhaps because they "fancy"themselves to be a King or Cesar.You also,rant on about "Fascists" and the police state(we know the enemy uses two politic but has only one goal,global enslavement).Which,is a sign of your involvement with a more liberal crowd.

You say your making contact with the "Leaders" of many groups.Which one's?I'd like to look into to your claims further.I spend a great deal of my time "ferreting out" those who may pose a threat to the patriot movement as a whole.Most are just mouthy numbskulls,but every once in a while...

HK,
Perhaps you need to get out of the rut and get involved in the process. You can't change things if you don't participate.

Each voting district sends an electorial college representative, but you need to be involved to be the one that casts the ceremonial vote. The electorial college representative is pledged to vote for the winning candidate in a state-wide winner takes all scenario. Only 4 times in history has the majority vote and electorial college vote been different.

The Bush vs Gore election was interesting as it went to both the Florida State and the US Supreme Courts twice each to decide. I honestly think that the US Supreme Court was right to tell the Florida State Supreme court to follow existing State and Federal election laws and not reinterpret or make up new rules. Your interpretation may vary.

Another thing in our favor; each state has their own election rules, which is probably a good thing. One corrupt state government that can be identified should have less impact on the Union, than one corrupt federal government which makes all men slaves.

I live in California and the level of corruption here boggles my mind. What really bothers me is the fact that the new redistricting looks like it make it worse than better.

I could care less what the presstitute media says about the occupy movement. I base my opinion of them on what their own members write and what I see them do. Many of their grievances are 100% wholly legitimate. And, while I'm sure most of these people are sincere, many of them are misguided. When I hear the "democratic socialist" solutions some of these occupy folks advocate...we part company.

I have no problem working with some of them on an individual basis. If occupy shows up to protest the fed or the bilderburgers, I'll stand shoulder to shoulder with them protesting a common enemy. If their rights are being violated, I'll defend them. However as a movement, we have far too many differences.

I shake my head at some of their comments but support their right to free speech. I find that I share many of their concerns but not their solutions. I think both sides want to eliminate the corruption that we see every day.

Holden Karre,

My opinion of what I've read of your posts on this subject so far is this:

You advocate direct democracy - each individual getting a vote in electing our leaders. That sounds fine and wonderfully egalitarian, but I disagree. You point to the number of registered voters who didn't vote as a problem. This suprises me as you come across as a thinker. (If voting could change anything, it would have been outlawed long ago.) What do you think would have happened if all registered voters had voted in the last several elections? When the electorate at large is indoctrinated into believing that the choice is only between the two parties' anointed candidates, Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum, both of whom are bought-and-paid-for fascist statists, the difference would be completely inconsequential. Do you believe we would be any better off or safer or less involved globally if McCain had defeated Obama, or if Gore or Kerry had defeated Bush II, or if Dole had defeated Clinton? Are you aware that the top 10 contributors to both McCain's and Obama's presidential campaigns are the same corporate entities (although in differing amounts)?

While this may be unpopular, I want to return to the idea that the only people who are allowed to vote for elected leaders are people who own land. People who own land have something key to lose that non-landowners don't. Try selling redistribution of wealth, in the form of property, to land owners. Try selling the idea of property taxes to landowners.

That said, I'm concerned by the lack of cordiality and downright accusations and character assassination being flung simply because some disagree in whole or in part with what Holden Karre is suggesting. Are we not free to discuss ideas here? Are we not able to toss ideas back and forth without slander? Do we castigate and ostracize and insult people on this board who inject different (fresh?) ways of looking at problems into our conciousness? What ever happened to the idea that we may not agree with what someone says but we understand the importance of defending their right to say it?

Holden Karre, I strongly disagree with your suggestion that things would be better or improve if only we could get the non-voting populace to vote. But I'd like to see you stick around here. Heck, I didn't agree with airforce for a long time about the drug war, but in back-and-forth discussions on this board, I came to see things his way. Similarly with anarcho-capitalism, although that has taken me longer to see.

I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I hope you, like many on this board, are humble enough to discuss these important matters with an open mind, understanding that if you "lose" a friendly or even a heated debate, you win because you gain greater understanding.

Peace to all.

Edited to add:

I would like to apologize in advance for stepping on toes. I just hate to see good discussion suffocated.

Bilderberg 2012 Marks a Turning Point in Focused and Cooperative Activism

Brandon Turbeville
Activist Post
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/06/bilderberg-2012-marks-turning-point-in.html

The 2012 Bilderberg meeting at the Westfields Marriott in Chantilly, Virginia marked the first time I have attended a protest geared toward exposing this particular private cabal which is instrumental in choosing Presidents and Vice Presidents, as well as determining the life and death of millions of people and the economic fate of billions more.

I honestly had no idea what to expect as I made my way to the hotel. Being a realist by nature, I expected to encounter heavy security and only a handful of determined protesters carrying signs and repeating anti-Bilderberg chants; typical protest stuff.

What I found, however, was somewhat of a surprise. Of course, the heavy police presence was exactly what I expected. But there was significantly more than a mere handful of protesters waiting at the hotel entrance. In fact, the crowd was about three times the size I thought it would be. Obviously, the signs were there and so were the chants. But there was no doubt that this protest was something different.

I must admit that it is difficult to describe in words just what was so different about this demonstration as compared to others I have attended in the past. Indeed, after talking with other activists, journalists, and demonstrators, I have found that the majority of them have come away with the same outlook regarding this year’s Bilderberg meeting. That is, that they took part in something special this weekend and that the protest surrounding Bilderberg 2012 was some kind of a turning point.

In truth, the size of the crowd was secondary to the energy it produced, and the energy surrounding the overall event.


The political makeup of the protesters was extremely diverse with libertarians, socialists, anarchists, war veterans, anti-war activists, Christians, New-Agers, Occupy protesters, and those with no affiliation whatsoever coming together not as a mob but as a grouping of Individuals who have the same goals and interests.

Throughout the demonstration, one could walk through the crowd and witness discussions and debates, all of them mutually respectful, regarding history, philosophies, and solutions.

One such debate was a conversation captured on camera between Webster Tarpley and Adam Kokesh, two individuals of very different backgrounds and political pedigrees, but who are nevertheless in complete agreement about the dangers posed to the world population by cabals such as the Bilderberg Group.

As I mentioned above, the electric energy present at Bilderberg was both unmistakable and indescribable. There were even times when it felt as if there was some kind of unconscious telepathy taking place between the protesters, as one could immediately pick out other activists when walking down the street far from the hotel itself. No one needed to be decked out in political shirts or carrying signs – you just knew. I truly felt there was no need to formally introduce myself to other demonstrators because, from the moment I reached the event, it felt as if I was visiting a group of old friends and family.

In fact, the protest felt more like a festival than a demonstration. Although Mark Dice was obviously making a joke by dubbing the demonstration “Bilderfest 2012,” it was also an accurate description of the event. Adam Kokesh felt the same way as he described the protest as a “summit” for alternative media.

Author JG Vibes agrees when he writes:

Everyone was well aware that they were standing just yards away from some of the most evil conversations that could possibly be taking place, but that didn’t mean that the atmosphere outside had to take the same tone.

This statement brings us to another aspect of this protest that made it so different from all the others. The 2012 Bilderberg Demonstration exhibited a startling lack of anger and hatred; rather it was an startling amount of love and commitment to one other that defined the atmosphere. This is not to say that the protesters were not angry or that they didn’t hate the criminals meeting inside the hotel; it is to say that the anger they carried was not the anger that consumes the one that harbors it. It was the kind of anger that produces peaceful resistance and productive change.

Even in the midst of the heavy police presence and the fact that, only a few yards away from them, plans were being made to further tighten the noose fastened around the neck of the general population, the activists maintained this spirit of love and community, all the while making enough noise to cause at least some disruption of the globalists meeting inside the hotel.

Again, as JG Vibes writes:

The vibe outside was one of celebration, love, togetherness, and peaceful resistance. Everyone was excited to share that moment with one another, and were excited to see such an unprecedented turnout for something that has remained secret for so many years.

In terms of community I, myself, was thrilled to meet so many people of like minds and to have the opportunity to discuss with them the issues that have become such guiding factors in all of our lives. I was also immeasurably pleased to meet one of the individuals who played a role in my own awakening, as well as several other activists, researchers, and journalists whose work I have greatly admired from a distance for some time.

In all honesty, when I first realized that I would have this opportunity, I must confess at having some question in the back of my mind as to whether or not some of these individuals are as real and sincere as they have presented themselves to be through their public work. After all, such doubt and possibility is human nature.

However, I am now pleased to say that, although I only met them briefly, I am convinced that they are indeed as sincere and dedicated as they appear to be from a distance. There is no question in my mind that these people are absolutely determined to promote freedom and humanity in the face of the obstacles currently placed in front of us.

With this in mind, it is important for all of us to remember that we may disagree with each other’s political philosophies and methods of presentation, but we cannot allow these disagreements to divide us. We must be able to hold views that are different from those around us while still working together for the same common goal. Not only that, we must maintain the ability to be respectful and tolerant of each other on those issues and areas where we may disagree.

Lastly, we cannot forget to mention the man who dedicated so many years of his life to exposing this secretive cabal of globalists known as the Bilderberg Group. Jim Tucker has been following and reporting on Bilderberg for well over thirty years and, for most of those years, was labeled a conspiracy theorist by almost everyone in the mainstream media and ignored by all the rest.

When Tucker first began his work against Bilderberg, he was laughed at, ridiculed, and ostracized. No one showed up to protest the meetings because virtually no one knew about them. No mainstream news agencies followed up on his reports because they were owned by the individuals he was trying to expose. Even many outside of the mainstream media were reluctant to follow this rabbit hole any further.

One can only imagine the discouragement Tucker must have felt as he watched his reports -- which were the result of a great deal of hard and dangerous work, as well as financial and geographical inconvenience -- be so easily dismissed the moment they were released.

Yet he still persisted where most others would have given up long ago.

Now, over thirty years later, not even the mainstream media can continue calling Jim Tucker a conspiracy theorist with any sincerity.

What he was once laughed at for reporting, the London Telegraph, London Guardian, Washington Post, and Washington Times have now been forced to address in their own publications.

While once following and infiltrating Bilderberg alone, Tucker is now greeted by close to a thousand protesters. He is now standing side by side with a large contingent of the alternative media and even a tiny portion of those from the mainstream.

Although Tucker has grown much older since his first exposé of Bilderberg many years ago, I cannot help but to express immense joy that he has been able to live to see his tireless effort and often thankless work turn into such an event, and to know that it is largely because of him that demonstrations like Bilderberg 2012 are taking place. Such is an honor that many men never receive and it is one that Jim Tucker truly deserves. Indeed, it is thanks to Jim Tucker that Bilderberg is greeted with a growing number of protesters and new leaks every year.

Although these meetings are still conducted in the dark, they are forced to work harder and harder to dodge the light.


Brandon Turbeville is an author out of Mullins, South Carolina. He has a Bachelor's Degree from Francis Marion University and is the author of three books, Codex Alimentarius -- The End of Health Freedom, 7 Real Conspiracies, and Five Sense Solutions and Dispatches From a Dissident. Turbeville has published over one hundred articles dealing with a wide variety of subjects including health, economics, government corruption, and civil liberties. Brandon Turbeville is available for podcast, radio, and TV interviews. Please contact us at activistpost (at) gmail.com.

That is the most encouraging bit of news I've seen in quite some time. Do you have a link you can post?

Fixed the original post.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/06/bilderberg-2012-marks-turning-point-in.html

Flick,

Howmuch land do I have to own to get my vote?

1 acre, 100 acres, a 500sq ft loft that I own that is located in a high rise, the rehabbed hud house that habitat for humanity gave me on the 1/8 acre lot?

Maybee I live in a secure zone with 10 other famlies. Do we all get to vote?

I don't much like that idea.

I agree that a lot Americans are apathetic, howmany I don't know, but atleast 95 million.

What do we have here, roughly 330 millions, I think. Shit, thats a lot of people.

I think that people segegrate themselves to specific geo locales, for whatever reason, cultural, economic, ideology.
And I have often wondered how so many millions of people can live together in the cities. It would seem like this is idea of America is not fifty states but 2 states, city states and country states.

Hell Flick, I know that if voting actually worked it would be illegal.

I have long spells to which I don't take in any information from any outlet but mine own thoughts.
. Maybee just escape and re- read all my old Louis Lamours for a few weeks or a couple of months.

I have to take a break from this kind of thinking, some remf r an r if you will.
I am not well suited or naturally inclined toward it as I was indocked and swallowed it whole, so that had me joining up intentionally, signing up specifically for the infantry of all things, criminy I was a really dumb kid, but if I can change my prespective anybody can.

Just thinking out loud this time.

I just read that, in Virginia under the Articles of Confederation, to vote required one to own at least 25 acres with a house or 50 acres without. I would say that one should be required to own enough land to use it for a productive purpose other than simply residing. So owning a row house or a townhouse or most single family homes would not qualify. Were I king, I'd say that one must own at least 1 acre with a house or 5 acres without a house in order to be allowed to vote. With today's advances in agriculture and technology, land can be more productive than in the late 18th Century. Those who move to cities do so for jobs that earn them more money and/or prestige. If that's what floats one's boat, then they either need to suck it up or buy a 5-acre plot somewhere if s/he wants to vote.

No, only the titled property owner would be allowed to vote. The key for me is that the voter stand to lose property or his/her freedom to use his/her property as he/she wishes. If I don't own property, I at least know that those who do will vote to protect mine as well.

Then buy 5 acres or a house with at least one acre. Oh, and the vote would be for the district in which the property is owned. Again, this is under the system I would establish if I were king.

I'm guessing your response might be something like: "But poor people or people of less means would be disenfranchised by being unable to vote." Exactly as they should be. Those are the very people who don't understand the greater good and vote for people in power to take from others to give to them.

So why all the emphasis on getting all Americans -- or as many Americans as possible -- to vote? In what way do you think that would change anything?

Direct democracy would work only if there were sufficient numbers of people awake enough to understand that a vote for either of the two factions of The Party is wasted and would have to all vote for the same candidate -- not some for the Libertarian, some for the Green, some for the Constitution, and some for the Reform candidates. Do you think we have that kind of majority among those who vote or would vote? I look at how Ron Paul has fared in the primaries and the media blitz either ignoring or attacking him and I say we're not even close. Hell, I'll bet that most of the OWS folks will be voting for Obama this year.

Coming full circle, how do you think direct democracy would undermine groups like Bilderberg?

If you read what the founders of this country said about voting it would shock and enrage most modern Americans.

In general terms...they considered voting not a right but rather a privilege and responsibility of State citizenship. Many of the States required either property ownership or the ability to read before you were allowed to vote. You were also required to enroll and take an active part in your local militia before you could vote. Their reasoning was that the uneducated weren't able to make an informed decision. And, that only people who owned property and paid taxes were responsible enough to make decisions on how the government spent their tax money. Naturally, if you pay taxes you will not vote to waste that money on bloated gov. programs like we have today. Anyone who received government assistance was exempted from the voting process.

.gov employees should unequivocally be exempted from voting, and IMO, New Hampshire has the best working model for a low-pay high-turnover state legislature.

Voting to spend my money should never be taken lightly.

The founding fathers were right. If you don't have skin in the game, why should you have a say?

Most of those called the Founding Fathers were lawyers, plantation owners-basically the upper crust of Colonial America. Some did it out of genuine repression coming from Britain but a lot of them did it because they wanted their own empire. Some did it for occult reasons.

The average soldier, the average militia member did it for their own sense of being Free-that is what the elite draped their end of the revolution with as they forged the United States.

Saying that, I'm for one man one vote-no it's not communist it's Freedom. Just because you don't have a business or legal practice or plantation doesn't mean you don't have the right to vote. I mean, those assholes counted slaves as 3/5 of a man as far as votes go, giving each slave owner enhanced representation at the ballot box.

We had an American Revolution that got rid of the tyrants across the Atlantic, we just need one now to get rid of the tyrants here.

That all works out great when the Constitution is adhered to and the govt isn't raping us of our hard earned dollars to purchase more power at our expense. This is done obviously by making as many as possible dependent on them and using OUR money to control their votes and buy ever increasing amounts of power to use against us.

Get rid of entitlements and I can do the one man, one vote bit. Until then, I am totally against it.

ALL entitlements are a violation of the Constitution through the 10th Amendment.

Nor does the Fed Govt have any constitutional power to involve itself in healthcare, education, etc.

Obviously, most people now think these are a good thing even though in every case it has been an abysmal failure.

Perhaps there should be a test required to vote.
Perhaps revisionist history and socialist indoctrination should no longer be tolerated in the schools.
Perhaps the Lamestream 5th Column shouldn't be a blatantly overt ally of the Soviet Kremlin.

Until those things happen, fuck the douchebags.

They don't give a damn about my rights and liberty, so I don't give a flying fuck about theirs. They can swim to Cuba or get sent to Hell for all I give a damn.

Actually, I do give a damn. I say start sending 'em now.

Freedom requires justice, knowledge, and intelligence-why do you think they've done their damndest to breed that out of Americans?

Historically democracy has always lead to chaos and been a tool of socialist control of the uninformed masses.

Many of the problems drjarhead described are a direct result of our Republic being replaced by a socialist democracy where a mere majority can vote themselves anything they feel entitled to. The lazy and incompetent 51% can now force the other 49% to pay for their free ride. The simple majority can also vote to abolish any and all of your unalienable rights regardless of any constitutional prohibitions.

See... http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=22;t=000015;p=1#000006

We've all answered that 1000 times.

The solution isn't letting those without those traits vote to impose further destruction of the same.

That is the reason for the 2nd Amend and cleansing our nation of its infestation.

We need to keep a few things in context.
1. Freedom without responsibility will always end in loss of the freedom
2. Liberty with out an agreed upon law form will result in chaos.
3. law without an agreed upon set of rights and responsibility will end up in either tyranny then anarchy or anarchy then tyranny.
Just like our Militias, nations are joined by every person for their own selfish reasons. While all have one thing in common, most have nothing in common.
In our founding days we started with a Constitution written by Hamilton and Jefferson. Hamilton was a representative of the Rothchilds bank of England. Jefferson was a member of the French order of the Rosicrucians. It ios rumored that Franklin was also.
In 1783 it was Benjamin Franklin ESQ, John Jay ESQ, and John Adams ESQ who by signing the Treaty of Versailles lost what we had spent so many men winning. This Land.
They, all being Bar Registered Lawyers signed th document even though in his description of himself the King claimed to be "Prince elector of the united states" before there was a united States.
Thus those who have studied deep into these times understand that there is a Con in Constitution.
It also explains Franklin's quote to a lady who stopped him one evening in Philadelphia.
She asked him "what type of governmnet have you selected for us?
his answer was "it is a republic. If you can keep it."
Was that because of what he had done or because of what he knew was to come.
These treaties with the King were not needed.
When General Washington received Cornwallis' Sword the land belonged to us by The law of Nations. When we accepted the description of the king as the Prince elector of the united States we gave it back to him with our own Constitution for the united States.

Freedom lies in the hearts of men.

Liberty is possessed by those who take it for themselves.

Papers and words have never allowed men liberty or justice.

Gunpowder and cold steel have.

So true. I think there is a fear of losing our Constitution; for if we lose that, to what shall we cling? Ultimately, Bush II was right, although without the expletive: it's just a piece of paper. Those in the higher levels of government understand that; it's high time we understood it as well.

"I believe if they set aside their law as and when they wish, their law no longer has rightful authority over us. All they have over us is tyranny, then, and I'll stay here no longer. No force on earth will keep me here. Anyone caught leavin' the fort could be shot. So each man make your own decision. Those who are goin', be back here in an hour."
-Jack, from Last of the Mohicans

I suppose that when you get on down to the bottom of it all you find that those oligarchs that ran things back in the colonial day were just as bad as the chumps running things now.

Shit, the representative republic has got us right where we are now.

I am not sure about this, as I have not made a thorough study of it, but it seems to me that the money that comes out of my check every two weeks is just money that my massa don't have to pay me.

I mean, its not really like there is only one pie, an only so many pieces to go around an all us scratchin and scraping around competing for the same crumbs by working or being unfit for work in some way.

Is it really Like this that Uncle Sugar takes some of my hard earned pie and gives it to old granny down the road so she can buy her kibble or mayhaps give it to little Lolita so she can keep her squad in koolaide and ramen noodles or maybee give the comandant the a few dollars to buy a round or two of 20mm depleted uranium.

No it is not like that. The presses run day and night producing paper. Hell, the part of my earnings that I don't get is a tax break for the company or his subsidy or his block grant for being a job creator or any such bullshit that can be dreamed up.

And we don't value it much when we put down the paper to buy a 16oz, caramel colored sugar water for a buck fifty.

Since no one knows what the hell to do I suppose we'll all just wait around untill it costs 800 credits to buy a loaf of white, well you can maybee buy it if your ration card is current and you can make it through the check points before curfew.

...the following headlines and the upcoming VOTE are a good place to START.

North Dakota Considers Eliminating Property Tax

Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Law Enforcement Officers

Nice, thumbs up, way up!!!

Interesting thread.
Really, since most property is actually owned by the banks, almost none of us get to vote, no matter how much land we call our own. We don't "hold title".
So the rich get to cast all the votes. Based on the leanings of most of the rich, I don't see much change for the better there.
While I don't own my 1/2 acre with a house on it, I and my wife work every week to make it our own, and we have everything to lose. Our skin is definitely in the game. I am self-employed, getting every FRN with my own hands.
I don't think anybody "on the tit", should vote, as it's patently obvious where their votes will fall.
While I still vote, I no longer think it matters, and haven't for awhile. As we all know, they do as they wish, we be damned. They will continue this path, as they put the last few bricks into place to seal the wall of tyranny in on us. Then, they will send their guns in to take out those who will not knuckle under, and convince those who will of their fate.
I no longer believe our voices will change anything, and that they simply laugh while they put those last bricks up, as we are diverted.
I don't propose to have the answer, and quit trying to follow all the "protests". Do what you will if you think it helps.
But "it" is coming. They have come way too close to let it go now.
So I am left with but one course.
To be as ready as I can,
and to wait ..............

The immediate solution with regards to your post is to break the control they have on the political system.

The corporations and unions want to be treated as individuals?

Okay, limit their campaign contributions to the same amount as private citizens.

We still can't prevent them from doing whatever Ads they want to put out on their own but we can limit their control somewhat. Prevent what they consider their 'investment' in the politicians.