Yes, they got screwed by the fedcoats and by their attorneys. Like Mark Koernke says, the law is the weapon; the courtroom the battlefield, the judge is your enemy, your lawyer is an enemy spy.

It's sad the ten men charged in United States v. Ammon Bundy, et al, were brave enough to start an armed confrontation with the fedcoats but then they got scared, punked out, and plead guilty. Mark Koernke was falsely convicted then did 7 years hard time because he would not accept their restrictions for parole.